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jacknjill

Member
:confused: What is the name of your state? California

My neighbor is a single mother, who has 2 boys (6 and 12) from 2 different guys and one 17 year old daughter. She collects child support and when their dads come to pick them up, there's always a fight outside. I've known this woman and her first husband for many years, and the woman is very abusive toward the men in front of the kids during visitation pickups. Her 12 year old comes over to play with my kids. He is not allowed to spend the night at our home.

This kid has confided in me that he sleeps with his mother and brother in the same bed. Normally, I wouldn't bat an eye to this, but here is the meat of my question.

They live in a 4-bedroom section 8 apartment. I've been inside their apartment before, and all the bedrooms have bedroom furnishings. This child has told me that since the father to the 6year old left 4 years ago, they've both been sleeping with their mother. He has told his mother on multiple occassions that he is "old enough" to sleep in his bed, but his mother cries and tells him that she can't sleep without him there. He's afraid to tell his dad, because his mom has told him that he will get "in trouble".

I've talked to his sister (17yr old) and she said it was true. She said that when her brother told her mom that "he was old enough", she told her to mind her own business. The mother accused her of putting these ideas into his head.


Should some kind of action be taken here?
Do I go to the father, even though the child trusted me?
Do I call DCSS or someone else to check on this?

What's the best option, or should I just butt out??
 


fairisfair

Senior Member
if you are truly concerned about the well being of the children, then calling DCSS is your best course of action.
 

jacknjill

Member
That's been my thinking all along, but I didn't know if this was a DCSS issue. I wasn't sure if this was considered "abuse" or improper....I didn't want to make any calls if what was happening was "legally" acceptable.....
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
That's been my thinking all along, but I didn't know if this was a DCSS issue. I wasn't sure if this was considered "abuse" or improper....I didn't want to make any calls if what was happening was "legally" acceptable.....
What you describe is not illegal and it is not abuse to have the children sleep in bed with the parent. Now if you suspect mom is being inappropriate with the children while they are in her bed that is a different story. Again though fair is correct.
 

CdwJava

Senior Member
Ditto.

There are a lot of people who find the "family bed" concept to be appropriate and proper. And while most of us find it odd and unusual, unless there is something more going on, there is no issue here for CPS to investigate. Sleeping in the same bed with a parent or family member is not abuse, neglect, or criminal. Perpetrating some immoral and illegal act, is.

- Carl
 

jacknjill

Member
What you describe is not illegal and it is not abuse to have the children sleep in bed with the parent. Now if you suspect mom is being inappropriate with the children while they are in her bed that is a different story. Again though fair is correct.
I do not believe that anything inappropriate is going on physically, however, if the child doesn't want to sleep with his mother, doesn't he have a say? He is 12, has told his mother he doesn't want to on a few occassions, he and his sister have both confided in me, as I keep an eye on them a couple hours after school. From what he's told me, his mom gives him a guilty trip: She can't sleep, she misses him, they can watch TV in bed together, she cries, she said he can have candy, etc...etc, etc.....plus, don't tell your dad..... He doesn't have sleepovers, because he doesn't want his friends to know. He can't spend the night outside the home (only on his weekeds with his dad). When he is with his dad, his mother has both children going to their dads alternate weekends, so one of them is always there to sleep in her bed with her. Also, this is a 4 bedroom apartment, and all bedrooms are furnished with beds....This apparently started happening when the 6 yr old's dad left her 4 years ago. Until then, all kids were sleeping in their own rooms.

This can't be a good emotional experience for these kids.... Again, I didn't want to just start calling DCSS, if this is considered butting in and not abuse.... I also wasn't sure if the 6 yr old sleeping is inappropriate.
 

fairisfair

Senior Member
again, if you are concerned for the children, the a call to DCSS is in order. There is more than one type of abuse. Personally, I find it exceedingly odd for a 12 year old boy to be forced to sleep with his mother, against his wishes. Just MHO.
 

moburkes

Senior Member
If DCSS finds that your claims are unwarranted, then they simply find them unwarranted. Debating this all day isn't going to change the fact that 1. it is not illegal 2. you are on the fence about calling. You're either concerned enough to call, or you're not. Period.
 

CdwJava

Senior Member
You can certainly call your county's CPS and let them know what's going on. But, while odd and potentially damaging to the psyche as years roll on, it is not - on its face - a criminal act. But, let CPS know and maybe they can turn up something ... if they choose to act.

- Carl
 

jacknjill

Member
Thanks to all for your constructive advise. I'll call and see what happens... Maybe they'll tell her to stop doing it....maybe not..... My concern wasn't a physical issue, but a emotional, psychology issue with the child.
 

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