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msfurman

Member
What is the name of your state?What is the name of your state?What is the name of your state? Virginia

My ex husband provides medical insurance for our child per court order. Last year, he used my insurance card when he took her on vacation to Florida. All this time (a year), i forgot that I lent it to him and never got it back. I thought I lost it. But remembered that I lent it to him. For the past 8 months, I have been trying to get a duplicate medical insurance card from him, but he never gives me one. I have moved out of state and need to set up new doctors. Even got a note from my childs school that her eyesite, even with glasses is terrible and I need to take her to the eye doctor. Since I am in a new state, I need the insurance card to register her with new doctors in the area. I cant seem to getone from him. The insurance comapnay will not give me one because I am not a policy holder. I even asked him a month ago to just give me the policy and group number, so I would have that. Still nothing. Is there anything I can do? I mean, he is paying forher insurance, so its not that he isbreaking an order by not providing it.
This is also touchy for mebecause he took me through 2 years of custody battle that he lost. Trying to say that I was medically neglecting her. Total lie.I won, but now he is trying to take get custody again because he says I moved without his consent. Another lie. ButI am scared that he will try to use this medical insurance thing somehow in some way that I have not seen yet.
 


stealth2

Under the Radar Member
Make a copy of the relevant pages of your order (front sheet, page(s) outlining the insurance requirement, sheet w/judge's signature) and send it to the insurer with a written request for a duplicate card. CC your ex. You could also contact his employer's HR dept (assuming it's through his job) and ask them how you can obtain a duplicate card.
 

casa

Senior Member
msfurman said:
What is the name of your state?What is the name of your state?What is the name of your state? Virginia

My ex husband provides medical insurance for our child per court order. Last year, he used my insurance card when he took her on vacation to Florida. All this time (a year), i forgot that I lent it to him and never got it back. I thought I lost it. But remembered that I lent it to him. For the past 8 months, I have been trying to get a duplicate medical insurance card from him, but he never gives me one. I have moved out of state and need to set up new doctors. Even got a note from my childs school that her eyesite, even with glasses is terrible and I need to take her to the eye doctor. Since I am in a new state, I need the insurance card to register her with new doctors in the area. I cant seem to getone from him. The insurance comapnay will not give me one because I am not a policy holder. I even asked him a month ago to just give me the policy and group number, so I would have that. Still nothing. Is there anything I can do? I mean, he is paying forher insurance, so its not that he isbreaking an order by not providing it.
This is also touchy for mebecause he took me through 2 years of custody battle that he lost. Trying to say that I was medically neglecting her. Total lie.I won, but now he is trying to take get custody again because he says I moved without his consent. Another lie. ButI am scared that he will try to use this medical insurance thing somehow in some way that I have not seen yet.
Do you recall the provider? If so, call the provider and ask for who the plan is assigned to in your area~ take the child to that doctor. Fill out the information re; insurance and Xs information and give them a copy of the court order page that shows X is responsible- and tell them you are waiting on a card. The Dr.s office will contact the provider to confirm eligibility. Sounds complicated, but this is one thing I had to do when my nuttyX refused for a year to give me an ins. card and the provider would not give me a card because he was the policyholder. They would, however, direct me to what Doctors our child was covered under- and I went to them and their office confirmed eligibility.

Next the X may say you aren't treating her vision issues (this is what my nuttyX tried to do also- because he couldn't take custody through repeated attempts...he plays this game frequently :rolleyes: )
 

rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
You have a lot of issues and are in contempt of court yourself so take care of your daughters vision problems and quit playing games or your ex will win his custody case. Starting multiple threads without giving the facts affects your advice.
 

msfurman

Member
uuuhhhmm, I am not in contempt of anything. I have proof that I followed the law in reference to everything. I am not concerned of that. It just stressful to take time out of life and money. But I made sure I followed the law to a tea. So I dont kow where you think I am in contempt. He is taking me to court, because he wants to. As you may know ANYONE can file a motion.
 

rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
You moved from VA to MD without proper notification, VA has laws against cohabitation, you are cohabitating....... You are wasting all our time.
 

rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
msfurman said:
What is the name of your state? VA & MD

I moved from Va to MD. I have not lived in MD for 6 months yet until the end of March. So all of my court proceedings are still being held in VA. Was told that I cannot change venue to MD until I am a MD resident for 6 months. I know that a new law came out in Virginia in 2000 I believe, where it is illegal to live together with a person of the opposite sex unless you are married to them, if you have custody of children from a previous relationship.

My question is, does anyone know if it is illegal in Maryland? I dont think it is. I live with my fiance in Maryland and I have custody of the children from my exhusband. The Virginia courts are saying that I am illegally living with a man. However, since I dont have an attorney, I dont know if his attorney is just failing to mention to the judge that it is not illegal in my state of Maryland.......or if he even knows that it is or is not legal in MD becasue he doesnt practice in Maryland. I think he might just be saying it becasue it is illegal in Va. Can anyone shed light? Anyone know?
msfurman said:
What is the name of your state?What is the name of your state?What is the name of your state? Va

Does anyone know of an attonrey that will do a free consultation on family & paternity matters? That has low or reasonable rates? I am in a situation with both of my children from 2 different fathers and it will be very expensive to get attorneys for both. I am having rtrouble finding someone who will at least give a free consultation. And usually the retainers are so high. I am owed 17k in child support so I dont have the money.
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One of my situations is on this page with the headline "Paternity Help".

My second situation is that in in Va your required to give a 30 day notice if you move out of the state with children to the court and other party. I sent my exhusband a written notice of my intent to move with my new address on it dated August 25, 2004, I moved Sept 27 and had my daughter registered in school by sept 28 or 29. That's 30 days. But of course he is saying he was not given a 30 notice. Well 2 days before I moved, I had him sign a piece of paper that stated that he was aware that I was enrolling our child in the school out of state. He admits to signing this. My notice that I sent to the court dated Sept 1, 2004 was I guess lost in the mail or they have very insufficient clerks but it was date stamped for Sept 20. Which is not 30 days notice.
The problem is that he is requesting sole custody because I moved out of state without his consent. He is not recognizing the written notice I sent him even though I have a copy of it. And at our pre-trial, his attorney only admitting to my ex's signature on the paper he signed several days before I moved and is using that as my intent to move notice. With hims using that and not acknowleding the other, it looks like I moved a couple of days after notifying him. I dont know what to do. He just dragged me through a 3 year court battle trying to take custody from me. I had sole custody, lost it and won it back on appeal. The appeal court found the lower court erred. However, that cost me 25k. I cant afford to lose my daughter becasue I dont have an attorney. Any advise on the move out of state. This child is 11 yrs old. Im hoping that if my daughter tells the judge that she wants to stay here with me, that they wont take custody away over thsis
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"dad" also takes child to see his father over my objections. Open drinking, drugs, my child sleeps on the floor, its unclean and not a safe area or neighborhood. Grandma, whom "dad" lives with, of course has nice rich home and neighborhood but takes my child along with "dad" to go to the grandfathers house for overnight. But she says she doesnt. But my son talks bout it. I dont have the money for a private detective to prove this. Or to prove that "dad" doesnt really live with "grandma" he really lives in the nasty filth of grandpa. So I dont want dad or gma to be able to maintain visits but scared it will happen becasue I dont have the money for a PI to prove....
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Originally Posted by msfurman
Dad does not have ANY visitation at all. And I have sole custody. There is no visitation order. When I was prenant and first had the baby, he threatened my life if I forced him to take a paternity test or told his family that it might not be his. He did not want anyone to know. He has family on the police dept and threatened that my life would be "heck", threatened my life. But I could not get a restraining order because he didnt actually try to kill me. I was scared of him and went along with it. Also, my son now that he is older over the past year looks like the other man.
You asked how did I get a support order without a paternity test? I went down to the court, filed for support and it has been in place since. but he doesnt pay it. Hes been in jail before and is behind again at twice the amount.

I guess I got rather confused reading your multipal posts. So if I have this straight.....

You have allowed visitation.
You ran and got your support order , yet no visitation order.
Now you don't know who's the Daddy,(Because you have another guy) yet let this guy think he is.

What do you want from this forum? Your playing games with everyone. If he is proven to be the father, the court will decide it all for you. Are you prepared to pay back the support if he is not? Are you thinking of anyone but yourself?
msfurman said:
What is the name of your state?What is the name of your state? Held in Virginia Courts & I have live in MD for less than 6 months.

I have a 4 year old child. There has always been a question about paternity but my ex refused to take a test. Threatening me if I forced. He has been to jail for not paying support. Caught up on that amount and is again behind around $15k. I asked the court for paternity test and am waiting. If he is not the father, I do not want visitation continued. Even though i do not have court ordered visits. I have been told that I can be forced to do visitation with him and my son. I am trying to prove that continued visits would not be in my son best interest. He was arrested for child abandonment, placed on a year probation and then the courts dropped it becasue he did not get into trouble during probabtion and doesnt have any other terrible criminal record. He was dismissed from the military for assault/battery either while in the Military or lying about info they found on a criminal check. He has not maintained regular visits with my son. My son does not call him daddy but rather by his first name. I want to establish that there is no father/son bond. He calls my fiance daddy. However, this mans mother wants visitation. A Guardian to the Courts says he will try to get grandparent visitation for her stating that the child has bonded with her in that way. I am the mother dont beleive she has. Basically if "dad" was not maintaining regular visits, how can they say the "grandma" has? She's seen the child less. But now I have moved out of state. Since moving, I allowed contact between them and my son becasue if the test shows he is the father, I did not want to look like I was keeping them apart to the courts or like I was hiding out. But I am scared that by me doing that, they could force visitation if not with the "dad" then with grandma. The other man that could be dad had agreed to take a paternity test but has now "disapeared" in a sense. I think he thought about child support and decided not to take the test. Which is fine with me. Eventually, I wish for my fiance to adopt after were married, but that wontbe for some time. Any advise? If I am able to keep "dad" from having regular visitation, what do I do about them trying to force me to give grandma. Also, "dad" lives with grandma. So by them giving grandma visitation, "dad would have it as well through her.
Say whattttttttt :confused:
 

msfurman

Member
Im married, and I have proof that I sent him notification of the move. So I am not worried really about moving. He was given 30 day written notice which I found my copy of and on the 30th day, he signed a letter stating that he knew she was being registered. So this is covered. Thanks.
 

rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
Other admissions from today:
msfurman said:
Yes, at this point, I say to sit on it for a while. In court whoever request it, has to pay for it - its in the Code of Virginia. Just play cool like youve been. If the dna place stand by there testing, then just tell the x, Hey, I know who my kids father is. If you have questions or question my test results, then you can either, take the child for testing yourself (and let me know if you need a sample from me) or court order me to take it. I mean, like me, your child is 4. Too young to even TRY to explain any of this. And if he is the father, there is nothing to explain....right? And as of now, he is the father. Hes provided without a problem and you have a sibling test. Everything is on your side. Leave it alone. He is the father of your child. Test proved it. He's trying to rattle your cage. If he wants to continue to rattle it, he will have to pay for it financially in the court system and why do that if there is a chance that he might get out of paying support? go with your test unless the court forces you other wise. But in reality, if he is going to have to pay for it if its court ordered because he asked for it, what isthe difference then, in him goin on his own and taking the child on one of his visits to have him and the child tested and pay for it himself. Because they dont need YOU to take the test. He still pays for the test! Tell him that. Either way, he's paing for it. They dont need you for the test. Think about it.....If you wanted to know if your daughter was YOURS and not another womens, and lets say your a single mom, for example, you and the child would be tested. Same goes for him. If he wants to know if the child is his, he doesnt need a court order for you. He could just take the child and himself. The DNA places even say so. So why is he so hell bent on court ordering you?????Makes no sense. He's not thinking right. The only reason he would need to court order you, is if you were making it impossible for himto see the child so he could or if he wanted you to help pay for it. He's a mess!....
msfurman Also, a VA attny told me that I would not be responsible for paying back and money in support that he has paid because he knowingly continued to pay support even though there was doubt to the parentage. In our situation, we were not married, so we signed a Paternity Acknoweldgement inthe hospital. By signing that he was basically saying yes, he knows that he is being named as the father and that he will take responsibility of this child without a paternity test. Waiving paternity testing. Thus, he cant sue me for support.

I though of something else in your case that relates to the State of Virginia. You were marriedlegally when you conceived your child with the other man. IN Virginia, if you are legaly married, and you conceive during that marriage, legally an child conceived during the marriage is that of the husband. And the only way to combat that is through Paternity testing to prove otherwise. So inthe eys of the court, even if he is not the bio dad, they will impute it all on him because yall were married, unless, you or he proves why he shouldnt. If no other man is going to show up and "claim" the child, then, the courts will leave things the way they are. However the other post was right, that if he complained, he could be dismissed from paying support, but still get visitation. YOu just need to rpove why that is not in the childs best interest.

If yall both agree that nothing will change....child support, visitation, custody and at thispoint its purely about the child being able to know at a later date who his father is, then try to get him to do it pravely through DNA Diagnsotics.

Another thing. Are you SURE this man will never take you to court later in a couple years for Custody? Something to think about it, if he gets the urge to be a jerk, like my other childs father, and years later decides he wants custody, the only way to stop the actoin in its tracks for you, without a whole bunch of legal mess, would be a paternity test. An attny told me that biological parents will never lose custody to "third party" parents unless the third party (your x) can prove that your a prositutes, drug dealer, user.....bad mom. So maybe to save your self the headache, if he wants the daggon test, take it and keep the information. Because when that child is 11 years old and he decided he wants custody or attempt to, all you have to do is pull out paternity papers to show, he is not the bio dad. Just a little hint to think about. The Va. attny said, they would never take a child away from a bio parent unless they are just terrible. But as you know, couples fight all the time for custody and one parent loses custody thats had a child for something stupid in the law...a technicality or whatever. But if you have that test in hand, that is your protection.
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msfurman My situation is quite similar and I am in Va. So we should keep in touch on our situations. My post in dated 2/9/05 Paternity Help. I was in a relationship for 5 years. During a split, was seeing someone else, became pregnant. Got back together and at the time, didnt think that the baby could have belonged to boy#2. So when boy#1 and I got back together, I went along with, that he was dad. We split for perm. very soon after. He got into drugs and in jail for not paying support...etc. Well boy#2 comes along saying that he wants a paternity test cuz he still thinks its his child. Honestly, my son looks more like him. He's 4. I requested a court order for paternity test through Va. courts. I was scared that they would not order it since the child was so old now. But an attny told me that in 2000, they changed the law. That before, after the child reached a certain age, that you could not raise paternity. But now its changed and anyone at anytime for any reason can. That's number one. In my situation, the courts did not supoena the correct address, so he didnt show for the motion for genetic testing. However, when I told the judge that i was testing someone else (boy#2) privately, she just told me to bring the results back into court, gave me a new court date and said that she would look at them then. If they show that boy#2 is not the father, she will court order boy#1 to peternity test. The judge never asked me any questions as to why I wanted testing or anything. Now, to your other concerns, attny's have told me that I would need to prove that there is not a child/parent bond between boy#1 and child to stop the visitation. That even if he is found not to be the father, that the courts can still force visitation and support issues. In my situation, I think boy#2 is bio dad and thenI will motion the courts to dismiss all that has to do with custody, visitation,support.
It sounds like your ex doesnt REALLY know that he is not the father. Iagree with the other post, he wanted to see your reaction. NOw, Dad can do a paterinity test without you. They can do it with alleged father and child. They prefer to do mother, alleged father and child. But dont need mother. I went through DNA Diagnostic Center. They have a website. Look at it. It tells you everything. They are even court admissible. Youdont have to get a court order if he is willing to take it. I agree with you, if its not going to change the situation, then why force it. However, the court will be on your side in reference to a child should know who his father is. We hada court appointed Guardian Ad Litem, who basically backed me up on that. And is prepared to tell the court that if there is a quesiton is paternity, that the child should know. They will do the test if you ask, without too much question. I dont think your ex took the paternity test on his own. But it ispossible to do without your sample. Also, keep in mind, in VA, whoever request the test through the courts, has to pay for it. In Va, biological father weighs more than the non-biological. So, if your husband is found not to be the father and the real guy steps forward, your husband is though of as a third party and the wishes of the real bio dad take a front seat,m including visitation and custody and support. However, you said the other guy doesnt want any part of it. It could go one of these ways in court, If husband is found not to be the father, lets say, and the other man does not want to take his claim, and you show the court that there is a child/parent bond that would be detrimental to break if they dismiss cusotdy, support, visits, then they will IMPUTE him to be the real father and IMPUTE him to sontinue support and Order visitation. So, really, nothing would change in your situation, like you said. In my situation, I have a man who doesnt pay child support, admitted to past drug use and chlid abandonment etct..& other things........he is telling the court that there is a father/child bond, when there isnt one because he wants his mother to still see my son. Chances are, he will not get continued visitation and all matters before the court will be dropped because, the real dad will then want his time to bond. The real dad is prepared to step forward and say that by continuing visitation with this other man, it threatens his ability to create a parent/child bond. Etc. So hope some of this helps. I am in Va too and dealing with the same laws as you. But, your ex hasnt taken a daggon test. That was to test your reaction. Becasue if he really did, why would he need to go to the courts for a test?????? THink about it.
 

msfurman

Member
I'm sorry, I dont understand what your saying. Are you possibly confused becuase I have 2 children from 2 different men? My daughter from my exhusband and my son from exboyfriend? And what's wrong with me getting married Tuesday? I don't get it.
 

MinCA

Member
Just go to court (don't need an attorney) and request a court order for a copy of the insurance card. This will come in handy if, on a visit with you, the child needs emergency medical care.
 

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