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Child Support for gravely disabled son

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logismos

Junior Member
What is the name of your state? CA

My son is 19 years old and has bipolar disorder. He has been determined by the court to be gravely disabled. He is living in a half way house and receives monthly SSI. My wife is the Conservator. My wife and I have filed for divorce. Does the court usually require some type of monetary support to a child under these circumstances?
 


logismos

Junior Member
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logismos said:
What is the name of your state? CA

My son is 19 years old and has bipolar disorder. He has been determined by the court to be gravely disabled. He is living in a half way house and receives monthly SSI. My wife is the Conservator. My wife and I have filed for divorce. Does the court usually require some type of monetary support to a child under these circumstances?

Why is there no response to the above question? :confused:
 
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CALIF-PRO36

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logismos said:
What is the name of your state? CA

My son is 19 years old and has bipolar disorder. He has been determined by the court to be gravely disabled. He is living in a half way house and receives monthly SSI. My wife is the Conservator. My wife and I have filed for divorce. Does the court usually require some type of monetary support to a child under these circumstances?

My response:

Yes, and under these circumstances, it could be forever.

IAAL
 

logismos

Junior Member
To whom would the payments be made? How would the amount to be paid be determined?Would this be considered child support, or something else?
 
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CALIF-PRO36

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logismos said:
To whom would the payments be made? How would the amount to be paid be determined?Would this be considered child support, or something else?
My response:

ADULT CHILD SUPPORT: (California, only)

Pending a domestic relations action or any other proceeding where there is at issue the support of a minor child (or an adult child for whom support may be ordered pursuant to Ca Fam § 3901 (certain adult children still in high school) or § 3910 (incapacitated adult children), the court may order either or both parents to pay "any amount necessary" for the support of the child. [Ca Fam § 3600; see also Ca Fam § 4001]

As to a minor child (or an adult high school child owed a duty of parental support under Ca Fam § 3901), "support" includes "maintenance and education." [Ca Fam § 150]

Amount--mandatory "statewide uniform child support guideline":
Notwithstanding the broad language of Ca Fam § 3600 ("any amount necessary . . ."), all courts are required to adhere to the "statewide uniform child support guideline" (Ca Fam § 4050 et seq.) in fixing the amount of child support and allocating the obligation between the parents. The "guideline" applies in all child support cases, with regard to any child (minor or adult) owed a statutory duty of support, regardless of whether the issue is a "temporary" or "permanent" order. [See Ca Fam § 4052--court "shall adhere to the statewide uniform guideline and may depart from the guideline only in the special circumstances set forth in this article"; Marriage of Wittgrove (2004) 120 Cal.App.4th 1317, 1326, 16 Cal.Rptr.3d 489, 495]

To the extent of their ability, both parents have an "equal responsibility" to support a child "of whatever age" (whether a minor or an adult) "who is incapacitated from earning a living and without sufficient means." [Ca Fam § 3910(a)]

"Joint and several" obligation:
The parents are equally responsible for providing support under § 3910(a) to the extent of their respective abilities. [Ca Fam § 3910(a)]

In effect then, the § 3910(a) obligation is really "joint and several." [Chun v. Chun (1987) 190 Cal.App.3d 589, 597, 235 Cal.Rptr. 553, 558; see Marriage of Drake (1997) 53 Cal.App.4th 1139, 1161, 62 Cal.Rptr.2d 466, 480-481--fact guideline formula does not place monetary figure on each parent's support duty does not affect their mutual obligation]

Duty runs to child; no abatement of cause of action by parent's death:
The § 3910(a) obligation runs to the incapacitated adult child, although it is enforceable by an action initiated by the other parent. Consequently (and because the obligation is effectively joint and several, above), a parent's § 3910(a) duty continues despite the other parent's death; and a § 3910(a) action initiated by one parent is not abated by his or her intervening death, but may be continued by his or her successor in interest. [Marriage of Drake, supra, 53 Cal.App.4th at 1152, 62 Cal.Rptr.2d at 475]

Family law court jurisdiction:
Like the duty to support minor children (Ca Fam § 3900), a parent's § 3910(a) obligation is enforceable in any marital proceeding or other action under the Family Code where child support is in issue. [See Ca Fam §§ 58, 2010(c), 4001]

The obligation is also enforceable (by a parent or the child) in an independent civil action (Ca Fam § 4000). But that can be a far lengthier and more costly process than a motion in a pending family law action. [Marriage of Lambe & Meehan (1995) 37 Cal.App.4th 388, 392, 44 Cal.Rptr.2d 641, 642]

Cannot be divested by agreement:
An agreement between the parents that impairs their § 3910(a) support obligation or that purports to divest the family law court of jurisdiction over § 3910(a) child support orders is void as against public policy. [Marriage of Lambe & Meehan, supra, 37 Cal.App.4th at 391-393, 44 Cal.Rptr.2d at 642-643--family law court's power "cannot be compromised" during adult child's incapacity]

Compare--action by child:
The "procedural convenience" of invoking family law court jurisdiction to adjudicate § 3910(a) child support is available only to the parties to the underlying family law proceeding--i.e., the husband and wife (Ca Rules of Court Rule 5.102(a)). By contrast, the child's independent remedy to compel § 3910(a) support remains a separate civil action against either or both parents (Ca Fam § 4000). [Marriage of Lambe & Meehan, supra, 37 Cal.App.4th at 392, 44 Cal.Rptr.2d at 642, fn. 2]

"Without sufficient means" determination:
An adult child is owed a § 3910(a) support duty only if he or she is both "incapacitated from earning a living") and "without sufficient means." Recognizing that the statutory purpose is to protect the public from the burden of supporting a person whose parents are able to do so, the question of "sufficient means" is to be resolved in terms of the likelihood the child will become a public charge. [Marriage of Drake (1997) 53 Cal.App.4th 1139, 1154, 62 Cal.Rptr.2d 466, 476--"parent's duty to support an adult child does not arise only when the child would otherwise be 'turned into the street'"]

Effect of other sources of support:
It follows, therefore, that a parent's § 3910(a) obligation is not automatically discharged by the fact the child receives support from independent sources--such as a support trust funded by the other parent. Placing the entire support burden on the trust (or other source) raises the prospect the incapacitated child will become a public charge, defeating the statutory purpose. [Marriage of Drake, supra, 53 Cal.App.4th at 1154, 62 Cal.Rptr.2d at 476-477--H bound to support disabled adult child where evidence indicated support trust set up by W would otherwise run dry; see also Chun v. Chun (1987) 190 Cal.App.3d 589, 595, 235 Cal.Rptr. 553, 556-557--"It cannot be that (incapacitated adult child) must disavow her mother's continued support, and thereby make herself a public charge, in order to establish her right to support from her father" (parentheses added)]

"Incapacitated from earning a living" determination:
Cases conclude a child is "incapacitated from earning a living" for § 3910(a) support purposes only upon proof of a mental or physical disability preventing the child from being able to work; or, at least proof of inability to find a job due to factors beyond the child's control. [Jones v. Jones (1986) 179 Cal.App.3d 1011, 1014-1015, 225 Cal.Rptr. 95, 97; see Marriage of Drake, supra (chronic paranoid schizophrenia); Chun v. Chun, supra ("emotionally disabled" adult child with 12-year-old maturity level); Farber v. Olkon (1953) 40 Cal.2d 503, 254 P.2d 520 (mentally ill); Woolams v. Woolams (1952) 115 Cal.App.2d 1, 251 P.2d 392 (paralysis); and cases cited in Rebensdorf v. Rebensdorf (1985) 169 Cal.App.3d 138, 146, 215 Cal.Rptr. 76, 80-81 (J. Franson dissent.opn.)]

Finally, get a consultation with a local Family law attorney. You're not going to understand all of this, or the ramifactions.

IAAL
 

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