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CdwJava

Senior Member
NWO said:
If the law in your state is against you grill him on his ability to judge speeds by dropinging an object in court and ask him to tell you the speed of that object when it hits the ground.
BIG difference in a falling pencil and a speeding car. And since I don't have experience or training evaluating the speed of falling pencils, I would truthfully answer, "I have no idea."

Not to mention that a judge might not be amused at the antic.

Questioning his ability, training, and experience in the visual estimation o fspeed is one thing - dropping an object and asking him to estimate it's speed? Yeesh!

Though, I suppose if the officer has a serious brain fade he'll actually try to answer ... hopefully he'll estimate it at about 10 MPH or so. As for me, I'd shake my head and say I don't know.

And visual estimation seems to work out here in CA. I've never lost one of them yet ... but that was in another county - I've never tried it in this county.

- Carl
 


JETX

Senior Member
CdwJava said:
BIG difference in a falling pencil and a speeding car. And since I don't have experience or training evaluating the speed of falling pencils, I would truthfully answer, "I have no idea."
In order to determine the speed of the falling pencil at its point of impact, we would have to know the current barometric pressure (density of the air -- for friction resistance), the 'fluid coefficient' of the pencil (aerodynamics), its true 'speed' at the time of release, etc. :D :eek:
 

JETX

Senior Member
fbluke said:
everything solid falls at 9.8 meters per second
And of course, that is NOT correct.... as it requires that the 'solid' be dropped in a vacuum. Your formula is based on 'free-fall'.... without any other influence, such as wind resistance, density of air, etc.
In order to determine the 'speed' that a pencil attains at the time of its impact, you must factor in its shape (coefficient) and the density of the air (resistance).

Look at it this way.... if you take a pencil, dropped 'aligned' (point or eraser down, less resistance), it will move through the air FASTER than a piece of paper (laid flat, higher resistance). The pencil will be traveling at a higher speed when it contacts the ground.... than the paper will.
 
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seniorjudge

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JETX said:
And of course, that is NOT correct.... in the real world.
Your formula is based on 'free-fall'.... without any other influence, such as wind resistance, density of air, etc.
In order to determine the 'speed' that a pencil attains at the time of its impact, you must factor in its shape (coefficient) and the density of the air (resistance).

Look at it this way.... if you take a pencil, dropped 'aligned' (point or eraser down, less resistance), it will move through the air FASTER than a piece of paper (laid flat, higher resistance). The pencil will be traveling at a higher speed when it contacts the ground.... than the paper will.
fbluke: Brush up on your physics!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gee
 
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seniorjudge

Guest
JETX said:
You quoted my post.... then referenced 'bfluke'.
Who was your post directed to??
bfluke

I plead guilty to improper mouse usage.
 
JETX said:
You're an idiot. From your other erroneous posts, you clearly have NO legal experience or education.
Said the pot to the kettle.

But yes almost certainly the cop can give him a ticket after the fact. It might make the ticket a little suspect if it goes to court, but cops generally are given the benefit of the doubt. A cop calling him up and telling him to meet him in a parking lot to give him a ticket is a bit strange though.
 
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seniorjudge

Guest
Rhubarb297 said:
...A cop calling him up and telling him to meet him in a parking lot to give him a ticket is a bit strange though....
Where does OP say this happened?
 
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ylen13

Guest
seniorjudge said:
Where does OP say this happened?
from his origional post "he called me today saying he wants to meet me and give me my ticket," now i agree it don't say parking lot but he did want him to meet him and give him the ticket. Why don't cop just file the paper work with the court and have summon mailed to him.
 

ENASNI

Senior Member
Erg!

ylen13 said:
from his origional post "he called me today saying he wants to meet me and give me my ticket," now i agree it don't say parking lot but he did want him to meet him and give him the ticket. Why don't cop just file the paper work with the court and have summon mailed to him.


Why don't Ylen find other forum to torture with his stupid pigeon english.

Look Ylen I can be flippant and I can be churlish.. but you are darn-right
annoying.
Go Away!

You just take over posts with your "debates" and take away from the posters
original question...
Yes sometimes we all do a bit of that, but since you have signed on you have
done not much more than that and not added anything.. not even humor.
Scram.
 
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