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Credigy aka Stewart & Assoc, I paid !

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Tried

Junior Member
What is the name of your state? FL
I paid an old First Union, MBNA, Providian, First Select, Credigy debt. DLA 1/2002, balance $1500.
I received an offer of settlement from Stewart & Assoc and sent a dispute/request for validation letter. The response letter increased the amount due to $3500. I phoned them and was informed that $50. interest had accrued since the letter had been sent. I requested a fax stating the exact amount due and what date that payoff was valid through. I received a faxed settlement offer letter that was valid for 7 days stating the balance was $3550. I sent a cashiers check in overnight mail with return reciept. The check had the Credigy account number on it and "Balance in Full". I wrote a letter stating that the terms of processing the payment was that I would recieve a confirmation of zero balance and that Credigy would remove their tradeline from my credit reports in 30 days of reciept, that if the terms were not acceptable that the unprocessed check must be returned within 30 days.
5 days after they recieved the check I called to inquire of the status of the account and was told the balance was zero. I reminded the representitive of the terms and time frame which thay concurred. This conversation was leagally recorded.
The check was recieved over 45 days ago and I still have not received the confirmation letter and my credit report still reflects a $3550 balance.
I attempted to phone and when I stated the call was being recorded they refused to speak with me. Since then I have submitted a complaint with the FL AG Office.
What next?
 


Tried

Junior Member
Credigy aka Stewart & Assoc cashed the check.

I went to the bank and got a copy of the check, front and back and it shows they deposited 11/17/06 the day they received it.
What now?
 

Tried

Junior Member
Debt Collector won't send confirmation of payment

Is there anything that requires a debt collector to send a confirmation of zero balance when the debt has been paid in full?
How long do they have to reflect the payment on credit reports?
I need to know how to protect myself when the debt I just paid in full debt gets sold again.
 

Tried

Junior Member
?'s for DebtCollector

I had a debt I settled in 2003 that resurfaced with a new CA in 2006 and I was told I should have gotten a confirmation letter, that without that letter the settlement was not valid. Luckily I still had the settelment offer letter and called that CA, they sent me the letter but it was still a struggle to get it off my CR's even with the letter.

I have a recorded phone converstaion where the CA representitive agreed to remove the tradelines from all CR's and send me a confirmation letter within 30 days of receipt of the cashiers check per the terms of the letter attached to the check. Do I still have no leggs to stand on, will they just say she had no authority, that they got no letter, in other words , lie?

Since you are in the business maybe you can tell me why they don't want the "debtor" to record calls when the CA's say up front that they are recording? In FL you must notify the call is being recorded to be legal.
 

TigerD

Senior Member
I had a debt I settled in 2003 that resurfaced with a new CA in 2006 and I was told I should have gotten a confirmation letter, that without that letter the settlement was not valid. Luckily I still had the settelment offer letter and called that CA, they sent me the letter but it was still a struggle to get it off my CR's even with the letter.

I have a recorded phone converstaion where the CA representitive agreed to remove the tradelines from all CR's and send me a confirmation letter within 30 days of receipt of the cashiers check per the terms of the letter attached to the check. Do I still have no leggs to stand on, will they just say she had no authority, that they got no letter, in other words , lie?

Since you are in the business maybe you can tell me why they don't want the "debtor" to record calls when the CA's say up front that they are recording? In FL you must notify the call is being recorded to be legal.
Most agencies don't care. I don't care if a debtor records the call. However, most recorders don't pay and therefore aren't worth talking to.

DC
 

Tried

Junior Member
DC, I notice you chose not to respond to the first question, and BTW I paid the balance in full, so your assumption that people who record don't pay is inaccurate. Maybe some abused debtors record because they see the mark of Cain on all CA's, which I acknowledge is just as inaccurate.
I was a single parent raising 2 kids without child support, the card I paid off was mostly from their expenses. My credit always sucked and still sucks, but I never filed BK and have paid off almost everything and by the end of the year I'll be debt free. The only thing I'll own is my clothes, 20 year old furniture, a 10 year old bicycle and my kids respect.
Since I'm almost 50 I really don't have another 7 years to wait for an unscrupulous CA to keep my score down just for jollies.
I might not have handled the payoff properly, nor done as much homework as I should have before sending the money, so my question remains, does a legally recorded agreement hold any water?
 

Debt Guy

Senior Member
does a legally recorded agreement hold any water?

Well, yes. But ... only in front of the judge. Which means you are suing the CA or they are suing you. All in all, it is a real pain. It can be done, but is just a pain.

It is not uncommon for a collector to make a promise to fix the credit report, etc. Usually they do not have the authority to do so and the company will not stand behind them. Mostly, they are just don't care once they have the money. Any effort they spend afterwards is "wasted effort" and generates no revenue for the CA.

DC is right that it will take at least 30 days and could be as long as 90 days for your credit file to be updated. Most likely the tradeline will be updated to show the zero balance. They probably will not remove it entirely.

But, there are some things you can do administratively to perhaps bounce the tradeline if it is not reported accurately. Be patient, give it some time and then file a dispute with the credit reporting agency. It is possible the CA will not reply to the consumer dispute verification request and the tradeline will be removed by the CRA. Some CAs don't respond because it costs money to respond and generates no revenue -- and at that point they just don't care.

I would not get all in a lather over the fact they did not send a zero balance statement or paid letter. Just keep all your paperwork in case the debt rises from the dead with a different CA.

By the way, a negative item can only remain on your credit report for 7 1/2 years from the initial default to the original creditor. The CA cannot reage the date of first default. If they do, that in itself if gounds for a dispute to the CRA to fix/delete the tradeline of the CA.​
 
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Tried

Junior Member
Thank you for your response Debt Guy.

I DV 9/06 and only TU and EQ show disputed

CA TU was reaged DOFD to 10/06
CA EX was reaged DOFD to 10/06 and shows Charged off for 01/06 and 03/06
OC TU is closed paid and EX and EQ DOFD is 08/01

CA TU and EQ are both showing joint
OC TU EX and EQ are all individual

TU doesn't show the OC DOFD, so should I dispute the CA joint responsibility
EQ shows the OC DOFD and Individual, so I could dispute both of those issues
EX shows the OC DOFD and not the CA dispute, so I culd dispute both of those

Would this be a reasonable plan?
Although it woud be kind of nice to ping them on the EX for not noting it as disputed.
 

Debt Guy

Senior Member
If you have proof the DOFD has been reaged, then dispute first directly to the data furnisher and sending copies of your "Proof". Then dispute to each CRA and send copies. If all that fails, you can sue the data furnisher. You might be able to find an attorney to handle this for you.

Ultimately the only way you can make them to anything is at the courthouse. There are no copes to turn them into.
 

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