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Custody Situation (LONG)

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What is the name of your state? AR, LA, MD

This will be a bit long so thank you in advance for reading all the way through.
Just want to make sure i give all the information i can for the best response.


My ex and I were Married for 7 years (1 month shy of that)

In 1997 I had an affair, We attempted to reconcile, sought therapy, but our marriage could not be fixed for issues on both sides.

We had 3 children, 1993, 1995, and 1998.

In Nov. 1999, i went home for a visit, we thought we needed a break from one another, his idea/offer. I was to be gone for 1 week. Had a round trip ticket. The children, 1 was in First Grade, 1 in Preschool, and the other attended daycare, as I was active in their schooling, stayed behind with their father.

My ex left the airport and went to a lawyers office and filed abandonment. He had a very nasty lawyer, I didnt have one as I was a stay at home mom, with no income of my own. No way to raise the funds in the time needed, ( family was not ble to loan te money)

We were divorced Feb. 28, 2000. In the divorce decree, I was given "reasonable visitation with the children" and the entire 2 sentences read.. ' The defendent shall be entitled to have reasonable visitation with the children in AR. The defendent shall provide the plantiff with at least a two week notice on when she intends to excerise her visitation. now the underline portion The JUDGE crossed out what the attorney wanted, and it stood as i was to have reasonable visitation.

(the reason i didnt fight for custody, is he was a good father, and i had no means to support them. I didnt have a home to live in, a job, pretty much all i had was about a weeks worth of clothes. I did what i thought was best for my kids, not what i wanted)

Now, after the divorce was final and we were done hurting each other, we grew up and became civil to one another as we do have 3 children.

He called me in April, and said that he needed someone to watch the kids that he could trust as the live in Au Pair had left bruises on our Older childs arm. I left the same day on an airplane, within 3 hours of this call. ( Ex paid for the ticket)

oh just a bit of info, we were divorced in Ar, I was in MD, and in March ex and kids moved to LA

I moved in with him, we had seperate bedrooms, and proceeded to live together platonically for about 8 months, And we got along wonderfully, had in a sense became best friends. Also in this time i noticed that his drinking had gotten out of control. I called him on it, after he had been arrested 2 times the last was for discharging a firearm.

I moved out. Again the kids stayed with Ex, but i had liberal visitaion, as in they came to my house after school, ate dinner with me, only slept at dads house, and caught the bus.
Ex brought youngest to daycare, Which i picked up when i got off work.

Now this arrangement goes on for about a year.

In the summer of 2002 my ex brother( my sisters ex) and law and my neice move down from CA, and stay with my ex. The children, stay with my neice during the day. On a Friday, the children were staying at their dads, and he and ex brother in law, were drinking and were outside skipping rocks, not sure exactly what happened but to sum it up the hit a neighbors car, they called the police, and when the police arrived the 2 were pretty much 3 sheets to the wind, and decided to argue with the police and they both got arrested. My ex called me to come bail him out, which i did on monday.

Now they held Ex over on non payment of child support for a child he had prior to our marriage. They were going to extradite him back to MD. During this time the kids were living with me. And i got into a confortation with my ex MIL about the kids. My ex was worried that I was going to take custody from him. So his Mother, wanted to send his Sister who lied in MS to come get the kids. well that wasnt happening for reasons that dont need to be address in a public forumn. After 6.5 weeks, his mother took out a second mortage on her home, and paid the back support in full $12K to get him released, and avoid extradition.

my Ex only had communications with my ex MIL, as I had a collect block on my phone and he was only able to call me the one time. So his Mother was filling his head with BS that i was taking hte kids from him.

Which wasnt the case. I worked in a non profit that had laywers that worked in our office, and one of them drew up the papers I needed for emergent temp. Custody. Which the judge didnt sign becasue even though we all lived in LA for 2 years they Said AR still had jurisdiction, but it was good enough for me to make his mother think that is she or his sister showed up at my house they would both be arrested.

So when he got out he called me from a payphone demanding i have the children at his house by the time he gets there, got him calmed down enough on the phone, and i went to pick him up, And after he read the papers and say that it was just to keep his mother and sister from taking hte kids and NO WHERE in the papers was i seeking perm. custody. Things were fine. He was rentng a place and because of the arrest, lost the house.
He moved into my townhouse. He took the kids room downstairs, and we moved their bunkbeds to my room.

We both had sign. others, and the situation was working well for us again.

In Oct. 2002, while in my care, our eldest and youngest children died in a drowning accident. It was declared an accident.

My ex blamed me and took our middle child and went to his gf's. He refused to allow me to see him. And this time the tables had turned, he didnt have the money for an attorney, no place to live. I told him on the phone if he did not allow me to see our child, I would take him to court and with his background, there was no way in hell I would be refused.

I was able to see him on the weekends, In july 2003, my ex went on on a binger( after the boys died his drinking had gotten to the extreme) and left our son at day camp until after 9 pm, was supposed to picked up by 6 pm. Showed up drunker than cooter brown, but the attendent for what ever reasons allowed my ex to take him. ( he was in a cab)
In the morning, when she told her supervisor, her supervisor called OCS, they arrived at my ex's house around 11 am, and he was still sleeping/passed out and our son hadnt eaten, and was playing a video game. ( he was 8)

OCS told him that if he couldnt produce a relative that could take custody the weret aking him. He said he called me which is bull hockey, caller ID on both home phone and cell. He called his mother who flew down from MD and took him back to MD with her. Which is where he is now.

He will be 11 this year, and has stated that he wants to live with me, and thinks he is being treated unfairly in his grandmothers house. ( his father lives there too)
his grandmother has a 3 bedroom home, that has 5 adults living there, my son, my ex other son every other weekend, school breaks.

Given our History, what do you think my chances would be in obtaining custody?

Again if you made it this far thank you.
 


Halls

Member
I'm sorry, this was way to much. I can't believe while in your care two of your children drowned? How the heck did that happen? And honestly, do you really think you should go for custody after two children drowned in your care? Maybe you should just leave well enough alone and settle for some type of visitation.
 

bononos

Senior Member
Halls said:
I'm sorry, this was way to much. I can't believe while in your care two of your children drowned? How the heck did that happen? And honestly, do you really think you should go for custody after two children drowned in your care? Maybe you should just leave well enough alone and settle for some type of visitation.
My thoughts exactly!
The youngest would have been 4 at the time, why was this child unsupervised?

Your remaining child should be in some serious conuseling!
Poor kid.
 

stealth2

Under the Radar Member
I actually did read the whole thing. And find it very curious that, as verbose as OP is with her entire post, she relegates the death of two of her children - while in her care - to one line. What's missing from the picture?
 
stealth2 said:
I actually did read the whole thing. And find it very curious that, as verbose as OP is with her entire post, she relegates the death of two of her children - while in her care - to one line. What's missing from the picture?
I didnt want to have to go into all the details, but since you folks like to cause drama, my children along with my step father were caught in a sink hole which is like quicksand under water. So yes they were supervised.
 

bononos

Senior Member
indian spirit said:
I didnt want to have to go into all the details, but since you folks like to cause drama, my children along with my step father were caught in a sink hole which is like quicksand under water. So yes they were supervised.
I'm very sorry for you and your family's loss.
Again, I hope kiddos in counseling.
 

stealth2

Under the Radar Member
indian spirit said:
I didnt want to have to go into all the details, but since you folks like to cause drama, my children along with my step father were caught in a sink hole which is like quicksand under water. So yes they were supervised.
It's not a matter of causing drama. It's just odd when someone goes on and on about relatively inconsequential things, and then relegates something big to a one liner.

And I am sorry for your loss.

But yes, it is likely that it will have some effect on your efforts to gain custody.
 

Halls

Member
No one here is creating drama, we are simple reacting to yours. You said your kids drown while under your supervision, but than you say they died with your step dad in a sink hole under his supervision. I'm confused, and how did they get into a sink hole?

How is your other child dealing with the death of her sisters? I'm sorry you lost your children, I really am!
 

bononos

Senior Member
Another thought, bringing up Dad's reactions and bad decisions following this loss doesn't sit well.
I couldn't imagine how I would react (either it be getting loaded or loading a gun) to the loss of 2 of my children.
It's not surprising he made some bad decisions when coping with that.
 

fairisfair

Senior Member
bononos said:
Another thought, bringing up Dad's reactions and bad decisions following this loss doesn't sit well.
I couldn't imagine how I would react (either it be getting loaded or loading a gun) to the loss of 2 of my children.
It's not surprising he made some bad decisions when coping with that.
this whole story CREEPS ME OUT. There is NOTHING right about it.
 
Halls said:
No one here is creating drama, we are simple reacting to yours. You said your kids drown while under your supervision, but than you say they died with your step dad in a sink hole under his supervision. I'm confused, and how did they get into a sink hole?

How is your other child dealing with the death of her sisters? I'm sorry you lost your children, I really am!
My mother and step father just bought a new house. Across the street was a pond. My oldest and youngest (both boys by the way) Stayed at my mothers getting rides on the tractor, my neice and her gf were there. Both of whom were 20, and both had babysat them before. My mother, my middle child and myself went to the local market to get the finishing touches for dinner. Gone about 20 mins. When we returned, I asked where the kids were my neice told me, and it all unfolded from there.

I dont really want to go into the details, as it is still painful, I just wanted to know if you guys thought i had alegal ground to stand on since my ex, still lives at home with his mother in a crowded home, and is battling alcholism. I would'nt have even brought it up but my son asked me when i came to visit this year if i could take him home with me, as he wants to live with me.

Personally, I dont really want to take him from his father as i think that would be the last straw as to what is keeping him on this Earth. I am able to call and talk to him whenever i want, as well as visit him. Although his dad does tag along where ever we go. I think that is more for his peace of his mothers mind.

But I cant ignore a request by my son. I also have to take into consideration, that he just may have been upset at the time, he may be feeling lonely in a house full of other adults who have busy lives, or feeling left out when his older half brother is around.

Even if everyone here screamed for me to go ahead, it wouldnt be a spur of the moment thing, I would have to wait until he was 12 to even be able to express to a judge what his wishes were, I would really have to discuss in great detail with him this dission, as well as tell my ex my intentions, and why. I do plan to talk with him in person (as i think this is a conversation that warrants face to face) when i go there next month. I think he has a right to know his son is unhappy with the current living arrangements, and give him the chance to fix things.
 

LdiJ

Senior Member
I am truly sorry for your loss...for your entire family's loss.

Only you can decide whether or not its in your son's best interest for you to fight for primary custody.

You need to make that decision in conjunction with a consult with an attorney in the state that has jurisdiction of the case. I wish for the best for everyone concerned.
 

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