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Youngmom

Member
What is the name of your state? VA

At my job I help put with timesheets/payroll for our engineers. This is a hard job since our engineers are drive testers who are out in the field and we really have no way of verifying their hours and we pretty much need to go by what they say. Well we just hired a ton of new engineers on and sent them out to a sort of sister company we work with to all get trained in CA. They kept track of their time there and sent in timesheets two weeks later. One of the groups all had the same hours for two days which would be normal however on of the managers here did not believe that they were training for 8 hours a day for those two days. I went to all the engineers in that group and made sure that those were the correct hours and said that if they worked any less they need to note it and not just round up to 8. They all stuck by their story. When it was time to turn in the payroll I noticed that the manager was taking of 1.5 hours for each of those days. I didn’t think that was legal since they have no way to prove that they didn’t work 8 hours.

I went to the HR manager and had sat down to ask her about it and she sort of went off on me. She said it was not my decision and it’s not my job to worry about the legality. I mentioned that since I have a hand in the payroll process that I was just trying to kind of cover my a** and that I did not want a hand in something that was not legal. She told me they do everything according to the state and federal laws and not to worry about it and that is why they are managers and I am just an employee. I kept trying to explain to her that I have never known any instance where it was ok to cut hours based on not believing the employee if you do not have proof. Also they do not tell the engineers how many total hours they are going to get paid for and since they are on the road they just get a check direct deposited to their bank accounts but no pay stub. I didn’t see that they were giving the engineer a chance to speak up about it.

Can someone please tell me if this is legal or not and what I can do about it? THANKS!
 


cbg

I'm a Northern Girl
If the engineers have a problem with the way they are paid, they are free to take it up with payroll themselves. There are far too many variables to give you a hard and fast answer as to whether there is any illegality going on.
 

Youngmom

Member
However the issue is that the engineers don't really have a way of knowing how many hours they are being paid for since they just get the check direct deposited. They dont get any statement or pay stub when they are out in the field actually saying how many hours they were paid for. I know that and that is why I am questioning it for them becuase I see what they are getting paid for.
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
However the issue is that the engineers don't really have a way of knowing how many hours they are being paid for since they just get the check direct deposited. They dont get any statement or pay stub when they are out in the field actually saying how many hours they were paid for. I know that and that is why I am questioning it for them becuase I see what they are getting paid for.
So, you don't think that an ENGINEER will realize that they got $195 per day instead of $240 per day?

Honestly, I predict you will be looking for a new job if you continue on this route...


ETA:
I don't really know what the engineers make per hour, my hourly/daily rate was chosen at random.
 

Youngmom

Member
So, you don't think that an ENGINEER will realize that they got $195 per day instead of $240 per day?
They are not paying them less per hour but cutting a few hours out of their day. On a two week paycheck after taxes you are not going to be able to notice how many hours exactly you were paid for. Obviously if they are cutting extream amount of hours but if its just about 3 hours in a two week period it will be hard to notice.

Whether I keep my job or not I would still like to know if it is legal or not. These guys are intitled to all the hours they work.
 

cbg

I'm a Northern Girl
And I already told you. On the basis of the information we have available, we don't know.
 

Youngmom

Member
Please ask questions and I will let you know so I can find out whether it is legal or not because if it is not I dont really want to have a part in it.
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
Please ask questions and I will let you know so I can find out whether it is legal or not because if it is not I dont really want to have a part in it.
You're not going to get your answers here. Consult a local employment law attorney.
 

las365

Senior Member
I appreciate that you want to do the right thing in the performance of your job duties. Here's the thing: it doesn't matter whether you know what the right thing is or not, your supervisor isn't going to do what you say.

Your best recourse is to lay low at work and look for another job.
 

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