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langtusj

Member
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? California

I am exploring different pre-schools for my kids. There is one catholic school in the area with many recommendations. However, when I check out the fee, there's a big difference between what a Catholic has to pay vs a non-catholic ($5800 vs $6640). Is this even legal? I want my son to attend a good school but I don't want to pay $800 more expensive because I have a different religion. Thanks.

Stanley
 


Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? California

I am exploring different pre-schools for my kids. There is one catholic school in the area with many recommendations. However, when I check out the fee, there's a big difference between what a Catholic has to pay vs a non-catholic ($5800 vs $6640). Is this even legal? I want my son to attend a good school but I don't want to pay $800 more expensive because I have a different religion. Thanks.

Stanley
Catholics who attend the church pay CONSIDERABLY more (both in time and money) than the additional amount you are being asked to pay.
 

Antigone*

Senior Member
Not only do you have to tithe, but you also get the pleasure of paying tuition. So, OP, if you'd like to get the break on tuition that the "catholics" get, then be prepared to pay 10% of your gross (not net) to the church.
 

PQN

Member
what??

Not only do you have to tithe, but you also get the pleasure of paying tuition. So, OP, if you'd like to get the break on tuition that the "catholics" get, then be prepared to pay 10% of your gross (not net) to the church.
The Catholic Church has no "fee" for membership.
 

FlyingRon

Senior Member
And even the recommended AFS (Acceptable Family Sacrifice) is only 2.5% (one hour of a forty hour week) rather than the 10% extortion that other churches demand.
 

CdwJava

Senior Member
And even the recommended AFS (Acceptable Family Sacrifice) is only 2.5% (one hour of a forty hour week) rather than the 10% extortion that other churches demand.
It is hardly extortion as the tithe of 10% is based upon Biblical principles and a fair reading and translation of the books of the Bible (I can cite NUMEROUS passages supporting this if you would like). It is not extortion any more than any command of God's would be.

While some churches are far more aggressive about encouraging the 10% tithe, most accept what you can give and ask that you look into your heart and see what more you might be able to give. I do not believe in guilting someone into paying their tithe to the Lord, but pretending that it is not asked of us is misreading the Bible.
 

stealth2

Under the Radar Member
I always find it interesting that those with the least tend to give the most (percentage-wise) and don't complain about it. Regardless of the faith they embrace.
 

rppearso

Member
I always find it interesting that those with the least tend to give the most (percentage-wise) and don't complain about it. Regardless of the faith they embrace.
thats usually becuase people that make more have a ton of debt and their money is not their own. Also in the old testimate things were much simpler, you passed cattle under a rod, the financial system these days is not so simple, most of us are indentured servants to the system and just as indentured servants of the old days they had no assets (ie the bank owns your car, house, even your education until you work to pay thoes benifits off) so until you are free of your indentured servitude contract its really not your money. Once you are free of debt and are a self sustaining citizen then your income is your own and you can do with it what you want but until then there are serious consequences for defaulting on your indentured servidude contract. That would be like tithing the banks money just so you can feel better, thats balony. This whole pressuring people to tithe at all costs is a product of taking the bible way out of context and failing to look at all aspects of the bible. I can gaurentee endentured servants were not tithing.
 

Country Living

Senior Member
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? California

I am exploring different pre-schools for my kids. There is one catholic school in the area with many recommendations. However, when I check out the fee, there's a big difference between what a Catholic has to pay vs a non-catholic ($5800 vs $6640). Is this even legal? I want my son to attend a good school but I don't want to pay $800 more expensive because I have a different religion. Thanks. Stanley
One of the benefits of being a private educational institution is it's their church, their school, their rules. Some of the schools accept non-Catholics only if there is space available. There may be a possibility your child would be in one year and out the next. That's a question to ask the school.

There is another thing for you to consider - there is a basic assumption that any child attending a religious school will be taught that religion. Your son will be learning the foundation of the Catholic faith. You cannot fuss at him when he crosses himself or repeats some of the basic catechisms he's learned in school.
 

FlyingRon

Senior Member
It is hardly extortion as the tithe of 10% is based upon Biblical principles and a fair reading and translation of the books of the Bible (I can cite NUMEROUS passages supporting this if you would like). It is not extortion any more than any command of God's would be.
First, the Roman Catholics don't believe in the 10% tithe. The bible doesn't require it. It's mostly the function of greedy churches that pervert rare pieces of scripture as a mandatory donation to the church itself.

What other "churches" do seems rather irrelevant to this topic. The issue was the Catholic church and the Catholics don't set the recommendation at 10%, only 2.5%.

I do not believe in guilting someone into paying their tithe to the Lord, but pretending that it is not asked of us is misreading the Bible.
It's not me. If you want to discuss scripture with me, we can do so in another forum or in private message, but I'll stand by my statements based on scripture or anything else. The word of the almighty one is perverted by most of organized churches.
 
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langtusj

Member
One of the benefits of being a private educational institution is it's their church, their school, their rules. Some of the schools accept non-Catholics only if there is space available. There may be a possibility your child would be in one year and out the next. That's a question to ask the school.
Good suggestion. I don't want my kid in and out just like that.

There is another thing for you to consider - there is a basic assumption that any child attending a religious school will be taught that religion. Your son will be learning the foundation of the Catholic faith. You cannot fuss at him when he crosses himself or repeats some of the basic catechisms he's learned in school.
I don't mind he learns a thing or two about other religions.

I haven't seen any reply that whether this fee difference is legal or not. I guess it's ok for them to do it then?
 

Mass_Shyster

Senior Member
Good suggestion. I don't want my kid in and out just like that.


I don't mind he learns a thing or two about other religions.

I haven't seen any reply that whether this fee difference is legal or not. I guess it's ok for them to do it then?
When my kids went to catholic school, my parish would contribute some amount towards their tuition. Some parishes would examine your weekly envelope usage to determine if they would pay the whole amount.

Since the school is not likely to get that contribution from your parish, they are directly billing you.

Also, religious organizations are typically exempt from religious discrimination laws. A church may demand all employees are members of their faith. Any regular employer doing that would be in deep trouble.
 

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