Distressedmom you locked your thread

[rmet4nzkx]

https://forum.freeadvice.com/showthread.php?t=318226
Reacting as you did, graphicly demonstrates your immaturity.
It is considered impolite to type in all caps as that is shouting. In your case it was not only shouting but you made it BOLD, challenged your responders, then locked your thread. Deny it all you want but your unsupervised son aided and abetted the criminal action which took place on your property.

YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE.

YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE!

DO YOU GET IT?

You found the money to hire a psychologist and an attorney, then you had enough money to send your child to private school if you can't figure out how to home school him or he won't cooporate with a tutor.

What are the real lessons you have taught your son?

You got your legal answers already.

Don't worry, we know what you will do next, delete the thread so no one will remember your immature actions, but it won't work because they wil be available in cache, so I will repost them here.

04-25-2006, 08:52 PM
distressedmom
Son Expelled for Involvement in School Bus Shooting
What is the name of your state? Oregon
Our family moved last summer from a large urban area to a small community. One month after starting school my son was involved in an incident where he and two other students were at our home and a school bus was shot at and hit with a B B gun from our property. The statements of all the boys were very inconsistent regarding the story of what happened but my son was arrested and charged with several counts of endangerment and assult which he was later cleared of. He was also expelled from school for one calendar year. Neither of the other boys were suspended or expelled for their involvement in this incident. My son has gotten tutoring for most of the year but not enough to bring him up to grade level. My question is; do I have a case against the district for not expelling all three students involved in this? I feel as if my son was singled out to take the blame. Can I also force the district to provide tutoring beyond this school year to bring him up to grade level. I have been told in cases where a gun was used whether it is real or not, the district can pretty much do anything they want to my son and I have no recourse. Is the "zero tollerance" policy being abused in this case? I am having a hard time believing I should just sit back and accept what has happened and go on with life. Shouldn't someone be held responsible for how this was handled?
#2
04-26-2006, 04:56 AM
rmet4nzkx

Originally Posted by distressedmom Oregon
Our family moved last summer< edit for space>

Of course someone should be held accountable, by law that person is YOU since you are the parents and the shooting occured on YOUR property and under YOUR supervision.

The only one responsible is YOU for the incident and for YOUR son's expulsion.

OF course the stories were inconsistant, they are boy's who got caught doing something very wrong, it is not the fault of the school or because you moved from an urban jungle, it is because YOU as a parent failed to properly supervise your child.

If your child is behind in school, that is YOUR responsibility, have you heard of home schooling?

If you can't get home schooling through your school district you might get it through another or you can send him to private school. Being expulled from public school doesn't prevent you from sending him to private school at your expense.

What have you done to punish him at home?

#3
04-26-2006, 05:12 AM
Ohiogal

Originally Posted by distressedmom
What is the name of your state? Oregon
Our family moved last summer from a large urban area to a small community.

Irrelevant!

One month after starting school my son was involved in an incident where he and two other students were at our home and a school bus was shot at and hit with a B B gun from our property.

Your property. Hmmm.. where were you?

The statements of all the boys were very inconsistent regarding the story of what happened but my son was arrested and charged with several counts of endangerment and assult which he was later cleared of. He was also expelled from school for one calendar year.

Sounds like a reasonable punishment. Your property, your responsibility, your son.

Neither of the other boys were suspended or expelled for their involvement in this incident. My son has gotten tutoring for most of the year but not enough to bring him up to grade level.

Looks like he will be spending this summer then trying to catch up. Of course when he goes back what makes you think that he will be allowed to progress a year? Make him repeat the year he sat out because he played with a gun and shot at a school bus.

My question is; do I have a case against the district for not expelling all three students involved in this?

Nope. You don't. They went with the facts. Your property, your son, bb guns.

I feel as if my son was singled out to take the blame.

It was on your property and it was your child. He was part of it at least and could easily be proven to be part of it because of the whole your property and your child aspect.

Can I also force the district to provide tutoring beyond this school year to bring him up to grade level.

No. You are responsible for taking care of YOUR child. If your child had been supervised and you KNEW what your child was doing then maybe people's lives would not have been placed at risk. BB guns can severely injure or even kill people.

I have been told in cases where a gun was used whether it is real or not, the district can pretty much do anything they want to my son and I have no recourse. Is the "zero tollerance" policy being abused in this case?

No it isn't. BB guns are WEAPONS! They can injure, maim and kill. If you hit someone in the wrong place, you can cause massive injury. You and your son are lucky.

I am having a hard time believing I should just sit back and accept what has happened and go on with life. Shouldn't someone be held responsible for how this was handled?

You shouldn't accept it. YOU SHOULD TAKE RESPONSIBILITY and make sure that your dear son doesn't become a felon and decide that he can use anything he wants for target practice. Have you done anything all year besides whine about the inequitable treatment your son has received? Have you made sure he understands that he was an idiot and you weren't much better? Your son needs to take responsibility? He could have spent this entire year expelled doing everything he could to keep up. He could have worked extra hard and accomplished more. However, instead you have been finding ways to make excuses. We just moved. We are from an urban area. the other two kids weren't treated this way. Blah blah blah. Nice work.
The long and short of it -- LEGALLY you have no recourse.

#4
04-26-2006, 05:23 AM

Originally Posted by distressedmom Oregon
Our family moved last summer <edit>

Who's gun was it? I would bet it was your sons and that played a part in there decision!
Other parents have a right to send their children to school free from violent, bb gun carring idiots like your son!
Thak this to court and you WILL loose! But HEY! Go for it! Spend 10K on an attorney rather than get your child help for his problem...

#5
04-26-2006, 06:05 AM
BlondiePB

Oh, brother...
[Quote:]
Originally Posted by distressedmom Oregon
Our family moved last summer <edit>

#6
04-26-2006, 07:32 AM
weenor

Originally Posted by distressedmom Oregon
Our family moved last summer <edit>

As a side note- your son wasn't "cleared" of anything..the prosecutor just decided that there was not sufficient evidence to convict. Apparently the school felt differently. I wouldn't worry about his education though, because with your attitude he'll have plenty of time to catch down the road when he's in jail for another crime he didn't commit.

#7
04-26-2006, 10:35 AM
Shay-Pari'e
I am alway's amazed when I see parents like this. Nothing more to add, you all said it all.

#8
04-26-2006, 10:37 AM
HomeGuru

It's the Mon in denial syndrome.

#9
04-26-2006, 07:04 PM
rmet4nzkx

Funny thing they did come back this afternoon so they saw the responses, according to their profile they are in management. Makes you wonder????

continued**************

 

[rmet4nzkx]

Distressedmom's replies before locking thread

#10
Yesterday, 08:39 PM
distressedmom

IF I DIDN_T HAVE TO SUPPORT A FAMILY WITH A FULL TIME JOB, I WOULD GLADLY HOME SCHOOL MY SON, BUT I AM NOT FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE THAT PRIVILAGE. AS FAR AS PUNISHMENT GOES, HOW DOES 2 DAYS IN DETENTION, HOUSE ARREST, 24/7 SUPERVISION, NO CONTACT WITH FRIENDS, NO CELL PHONE, NO COMPUTER ACCESS. THIS WAS THE CASE FOR FOUR MONTHS. WHETHER THIS WAS COURT IMPOSED OR NOT, THIS WAS SUFFICIENT PUNISHMENT FOR A BOY WHO IS NOT GUILTY!!!!!

Originally Posted by rmet4nzkx
Of course someone should be held accountable, by law that person is YOU since you are the parents and the shooting occured on YOUR property and under YOUR supervision.

The only one responsible is YOU for the incident and for YOUR son's expulsion.

OF course the stories were inconsistant, they are boy's who got caught doing something very wrong, it is not the fault of the school or because you moved from an urban jungle, it is because YOU as a parent failed to properly supervise your child.

If your child is behind in school, that is YOUR responsibility, have you heard of home schooling?

If you can't get home schooling through your school district you might get it through another or you can send him to private school. Being expulled from public school doesn't prevent you from sending him to private school at your expense.

What have you done to punish him at home?

Last edited by distressedmom : Yesterday at 08:42 PM.

#11
Yesterday, 08:40 PM
distressedmom

FANCY JOB TITLE BUT MIDDLE CLASS PAY!!! IF I HAD A SIX FIGURE INCOME, I WOULD HAVE MY SON IN PRIVATE SCHOOL

Originally Posted by rmet4nzkx
Funny thing they did come back this afternoon so they saw the responses, according to their profile they are in management. Makes you wonder????

#12
Yesterday, 08:44 PM
distressedmom

THIS DOESN'T EVEN DESERVE A RESPONSE!!!

Originally Posted by HomeGuru
It's the Mon in denial syndrome.

#13
Yesterday, 08:46 PM
distressedmom

CAN YOU CLARIFY PLEASE????
[Of course they can't clarify if you lock the thread.]

Originally Posted by Shay-Pari'e
I am alway's amazed when I see parents like this. Nothing more to add, you all said it all.

#14
Yesterday, 08:48 PM
distressedmom

YOU ARE RIGHT!! HE WASN’T CLEARED; THE CHARGES WERE DROPPED BECAUSE OUR VERY COMPETENT ATTORNEY GOT A CONFESSION FROM ONE OF THE OTHER TWO BOYS THAT MY SON DIDN’T DO THIS. THIS BOY WITNESSED THE THIRD BOY SHOOT THE SCHOOL BUS. AND GUESS WHAT??? THIS BOY IS STILL IN SCHOOL, WHILE MY SON IS SITTING HOME!!! NOW……HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE YOUR CHILDREN GOING TO SCHOOL WITH THE REAL SHOOTER!!!! AND BY THE WAY, MY SON WILL NOT BE GOING TO JAIL AGAIN BECAUSE HE KNOWS WHAT IT IS LIKE TO BE NAILED WITH SOMETHING HE DIDN’T DO.

Originally Posted by weenor
As a side note- your son wasn't "cleared" of anything..the prosecutor just decided that there was not sufficient evidence to convict. Apparently the school felt differently. I wouldn't worry about his education though, because with your attitude he'll have plenty of time to catch down the road when he's in jail for another crime he didn't commit.

#15
Yesterday, 08:51 PM
distressedmom

YES YOU ARE RIGHT!! OUR CHILDREN DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO GO TO SCHOOL FREE FROM VIOLENCE. IF YOU READ THE OTHER RESPONSE, THE REAL SHOOTER IS STILL GOING TO SCHOOL WHILE MY SON IS SITTING AT HOME!! AND BY THE WAY, MY SON PASSED A HUNTER SAFETY COURSE JUST PRIOR TO THIS EVENT. HE WAS USING THESE bb GUNS FOR TARGET PRACTICE AND LEARING HOW TO USE THESE GUNS RESPONSIBILY. WHY DO YOU THINK MY SON WOULD ACT SO IRRESPONSIBLY???!!! SO I WOULDN’T BE CALLING HIM A BB GUN CARRYING IDIOT.
ALSO, MY SON DID SEE A PSYCOLOGIST AND A REPORT WAS WRITTEN STATING HE HAD NO PROBLEM AS YOU CALL IT THAT WOULD CAUSE HIM TO DO SOMETHING THIS SERIOUS!!!

Originally Posted by baystategirl
Who's gun was it? I would bet it was your sons and that played a part in there decision!
Other parents have a right to send their children to school free from violent, bb gun carring idiots like your son!
Thak this to court and you WILL loose! But HEY! Go for it! Spend 10K on an attorney rather than get your child help for his problem...

#16
Yesterday, 08:54 PM
distressedmom

I HAVE TAKEN RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS!!! WHO ARE YOU TO TELL ME I AM A WHINER AND AM MAKING EXCUSES!!! AS YOU WILL SEE, YES IT WAS MY SON, MY PROPERTY AND HIS BB GUNS. YES, I UNDERSTAND GUNS CAN INJURE SERIOUSLY. IF YOU HAD READ THE OTHER REPONSES, HE JUST PASSED A HUNTERS SAFETY COURSE. YES HE IS TAKING REPSPONSIBILITY BY TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH A TUTOR AND PROBABLY GOING TO SUMMER SCHOOL TO MAKE SURE HE IS READY FOR NEXT YEAR

Originally Posted by Ohiogal
You shouldn't accept it. YOU SHOULD TAKE RESPONSIBILITY and make sure that your dear son doesn't become a felon and decide that he can use anything he wants for target practice. Have you done anything all year besides whine about the inequitable treatment your son has received? Have you made sure he understands that he was an idiot and you weren't much better? Your son needs to take responsibility> He could have spent this entire year expelled doing everything he could to keep up. He could have worked extra hard and accomplished more. However, instead you have been finding ways to make excuses. We just moved. We are from an urban area. the other two kids weren't treated this way. Blah blah blah. Nice work.

The long and short of it -- LEGALLY you have no recourse.

 

[Ohiogal]

The shame of it is if he passed a hunter's safety course he apparently didn't remember what he was taught. he made many mistakes. He let others use his BB guns (but because they were his, he was first and foremost responsible); he shot in a residential area needs streets and traffic (good hunters only shoot when they are at least 150 yards -- and preferably a lot more -- from any road or residence); good hunters only point a gun at something they want to shoot; good hunters make sure that their gun is NOT loaded unless they are ready to shoot and that the safety remains on at all times.
Apparently this boy didn't learn anything.
My original post holds.
Oh and I also took hunter's ed when I was 14.
Quit making excuses. Your son is responsible and you are whining about it distressedmom.

 

[rmet4nzkx]

Hunter's safety isn't going to be enough for this kid, after all he came from the big bad Urgan jungle where any kid can get a hold of a Sat. nite special and they shoot at their buds for fun, right? She wonders why the have Zero tolerance for children shooting at school bussess?

CNN - 1 killed, 25 wounded in Oregon school shooting - May 21, 1998
1 killed, 25 wounded in Oregon school shooting
http://www.cnn.com/US/9805/21/school.shooting.2/index.html
The shooter had been expelled from school for attempting to bring guns to school.

 

[distressedmom]

ITS TOO BAD I DIDN'T CHECK OUT THE WAY PEOPLE ARE TREATED AT THIS SITE BEFORE I POSTED THIS. AFTER LOOKING AT OTHER POSTS IN OTHER AREAS IT'S VERY APPARENT, MORE PEOPLE ARE HARASSED THAN HELPED AT THIS SITE. I AM NOT GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE BELITTLED AND RIDICULED BY PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELVES. I AM NOT IN DENIAL, I AM NOT IMMATURE, I AM NOT MAKING EXCUSES AND I AM CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO BRING MYSELF DOWN TO YOUR LEVEL ANY LONGER!!!

 

[fairisfair]

ITS TOO BAD I DIDN'T CHECK OUT THE WAY PEOPLE ARE TREATED AT THIS SITE BEFORE I POSTED THIS. AFTER LOOKING AT OTHER POSTS IN OTHER AREAS IT'S VERY APPARENT, MORE PEOPLE ARE HARASSED THAN HELPED AT THIS SITE. I AM NOT GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE BELITTLED AND RIDICULED BY PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELVES. I AM NOT IN DENIAL, I AM NOT IMMATURE, I AM NOT MAKING EXCUSES AND I AM CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO BRING MYSELF DOWN TO YOUR LEVEL ANY LONGER!!!

and so you came back now WHY?? I have one thing to say to you************** YOU'LL SHOOT YOUR EYE OUT

 

[averad]

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[rmet4nzkx]

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[rmet4nzkx]

ITS TOO BAD I DIDN'T CHECK OUT THE WAY PEOPLE ARE TREATED AT THIS SITE BEFORE I POSTED THIS. AFTER LOOKING AT OTHER POSTS IN OTHER AREAS IT'S VERY APPARENT, MORE PEOPLE ARE HARASSED THAN HELPED AT THIS SITE. I AM NOT GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE BELITTLED AND RIDICULED BY PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELVES. I AM NOT IN DENIAL, I AM NOT IMMATURE, I AM NOT MAKING EXCUSES AND I AM CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO BRING MYSELF DOWN TO YOUR LEVEL ANY LONGER!!!

Are you going to hold your breath until you turn redder?

 

[Just Blue]

YOU ARE RIGHT!! OUR CHILDREN DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO GO TO SCHOOL FREE FROM VIOLENCE. IF YOU READ THE OTHER RESPONSE, THE REAL SHOOTER IS STILL GOING TO SCHOOL WHILE MY SON IS SITTING AT HOME!! AND BY THE WAY, MY SON PASSED A HUNTER SAFETY COURSE JUST PRIOR TO THIS EVENT. HE WAS USING THESE bb GUNS FOR TARGET PRACTICE AND LEARING HOW TO USE THESE GUNS RESPONSIBILY. WHY DO YOU THINK MY SON WOULD ACT SO IRRESPONSIBLY???!!! SO I WOULDN’T BE CALLING HIM A BB GUN CARRYING IDIOT.
ALSO, MY SON DID SEE A PSYCOLOGIST AND A REPORT WAS WRITTEN STATING HE HAD NO PROBLEM AS YOU CALL IT THAT WOULD CAUSE HIM TO DO SOMETHING THIS SERIOUS!!!

Originally Posted by baystategirl
Who's gun was it? I would bet it was your sons and that played a part

in there decision!
Other parents have a right to send their children to school free from violent, bb gun carring idiots like your son!
Thak this to court and you WILL loose! But HEY! Go for it! Spend 10K on an attorney rather than get your child help for his problem...

So it was your son's gun...He went into the house, got it out, gave it to his buddy.. ...and they shot at the bus that had CHILDREN in it.

And you think your son is not culpable ..Why?

 

[rmet4nzkx]

YOU ARE RIGHT!! OUR CHILDREN DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO GO TO SCHOOL FREE FROM VIOLENCE. IF YOU READ THE OTHER RESPONSE, THE REAL SHOOTER IS STILL GOING TO SCHOOL WHILE MY SON IS SITTING AT HOME!! AND BY THE WAY, MY SON PASSED A HUNTER SAFETY COURSE JUST PRIOR TO THIS EVENT. HE WAS USING THESE bb GUNS FOR TARGET PRACTICE AND LEARING HOW TO USE THESE GUNS RESPONSIBILY. WHY DO YOU THINK MY SON WOULD ACT SO IRRESPONSIBLY???!!! SO I WOULDN’T BE CALLING HIM A BB GUN CARRYING IDIOT.
ALSO, MY SON DID SEE A PSYCOLOGIST AND A REPORT WAS WRITTEN STATING HE HAD NO PROBLEM AS YOU CALL IT THAT WOULD CAUSE HIM TO DO SOMETHING THIS SERIOUS!!!

Originally Posted by baystategirl
Who's gun was it? I would bet it was your sons and that played a part

in there decision!
Other parents have a right to send their children to school free from violent, bb gun carring idiots like your son!
Thak this to court and you WILL loose! But HEY! Go for it! Spend 10K on an attorney rather than get your child help for his problem...

So it was your son's gun...He went into the house, got it out, gave it to his buddy.. ...and they shot at the bus that had CHILDREN in it.

And you think your son is not culpable ..Why?

Uuuuhhhh Because

 

[Shay-Pari'e]

ITS TOO BAD I DIDN'T CHECK OUT THE WAY PEOPLE ARE TREATED AT THIS SITE BEFORE I POSTED THIS. AFTER LOOKING AT OTHER POSTS IN OTHER AREAS IT'S VERY APPARENT, MORE PEOPLE ARE HARASSED THAN HELPED AT THIS SITE. I AM NOT GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE BELITTLED AND RIDICULED BY PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELVES. I AM NOT IN DENIAL, I AM NOT IMMATURE, I AM NOT MAKING EXCUSES AND I AM CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO BRING MYSELF DOWN TO YOUR LEVEL ANY LONGER!!!

You are hurting my eyes with your cap's,( yelling,) and my ears with your stomping feet.

Grow up already, for your son and for our childrens sake.

 

[Ohiogal]

Anyone know where I can get a lamp in the shape of a womans leg?

Did not know that but do know that the HOUSE is in Cleveland
dang i cannot type with these nails....
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[rmet4nzkx]

Did not know that but do know that the HOUSE is in Cleveland
dang i cannot type with these nails....
9 more hours uhntil married!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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You have our permission not to respond here while on your honeymoon

 

[distressedmom]

Congratulations!!! You have all passed!!! This is a very interesting study in human behavior. The power of the internet is wonderful, isn't it. Anyone could create a profile. Who knows….I could be a college student doing research…I could be an NRA member looking for current attitudes toward guns….I could be a detective facing a situation like this and wondering what choice to make….I just might be a person who is doing research into societies attitudes towards crime….or I might have written this story to let you all make fools of yourselves……I WILL LET YOU GUESS???