Drug Use?

[bononos]

What is the name of your state?
OH
I am in the middle of modifying custody for this and other issues.
I just received a strange phone call from ex in regards to missing prescription drugs and $$$ his father is claiming he took.
The person accusing it is one who has supplied ex with drugs in the past.
He called for my help??? To have me call his dad and let him know this guy supplied him with drugs in the past.
Anyway, I am now fearing the drugs are again ,and probably never stopped being, a problem.
I'm guessing my answer will be no, but I'll ask anyway:
Is there anything I can do now?
I drop son off tonight for visit.
How on earth can I ever get the proof?

 

[seniorjudge]

Are you asking whether you should drop off a child at a doper's house?

 

[bononos]

Are you asking whether you should drop off a child at a doper's house?

Yep!
But I have to, our custody court order says 5:45 Friday-5:45 Saturday.

 

[seniorjudge]

Yep!
But I have to, our custody court order says 5:45 Friday-5:45 Saturday.

This is not legal advice.

This is what I would do: I would NEVER take a child to a doper's house.

You do what you want to do.

 

[bononos]

This is not legal advice.

This is what I would do: I would NEVER take a child to a doper's house.

You do what you want to do.

Thanks, I'll judge the situation before I take him out of the car.

 

[casa]

What is the name of your state?
OH
I am in the middle of modifying custody for this and other issues.
I just received a strange phone call from ex in regards to missing prescription drugs and $$$ his father is claiming he took.
The person accusing it is one who has supplied ex with drugs in the past.
He called for my help??? To have me call his dad and let him know this guy supplied him with drugs in the past.
Anyway, I am now fearing the drugs are again ,and probably never stopped being, a problem.
I'm guessing my answer will be no, but I'll ask anyway:
Is there anything I can do now?
I drop son off tonight for visit.
How on earth can I ever get the proof?

Yikes. Let me get this straight- the X told you an X drug supplier has accuse him of stealing Rx drugs and $ from his own father? And now he wants you to call his father to 'vouch' for him that the guy is probably lying since he is usually a drug supplier himself? OMG All of this during a case to modify custody based on your concern re; his possible continuing drug use? Your X is not one of the brightest bulbs, is he?

I guess my question is: Do you believe the X? Because you could (while you know Xs father is mad at him) call the X father-in-law and ask if he'd be willing to make a statement re; his belief that his son has stolen $ and Rx drugs from him.

I would NOT 'vouch' for him to the father-in-law though- that's so strange, I can't even imagine why he requested it.

If you suspect there is drug use going on in the home- contact law enforcement or Children's Services...they can go see what they can find. I don't know if they will go out to the home based on what you report, but aside from that I have no idea what else you can do.

I think you know by reading on this forum, the risks involved in denying visitation- so that's a choice you'll have to make.

 

[seniorjudge]

Thanks, I'll judge the situation before I take him out of the car.

This is one of the reasons I don't post in this forum even though I am a family law expert. I just get too worked up.

I'll go away and never come back. I'll keep my mouth shut.

 

[Rushia]

I know that NCP's can use the police for proof of denial of visitation, but couldn't the CP call the police and ask for an escort (due to the circumstances) so that she would have proof that she took child and all felt the drugs were there so the child couldn't be given over for visitation. Is this an option?

 

[seniorjudge]

I think you know by reading on this forum, the risks involved in denying visitation- so that's a choice you'll have to make.

I'd go to jail before I would carry a kid into a doper's house.

 

[SMURFEELAW]

I agree with seniorjudge 150%. My hubby would not allow mom to see the child for a month (they had week on/week-off visitation) b/c he thought mom was doing drugs. The Court did not see it as an emergency and did not grant the emergency petition filed. But hubby decided that the risk was greater if mom had the child. The judge ended up telling mom (who only saw the child once from August first through the end of October) that he would have done the same thing that my hubby did if he though tthe child was unsafe and couldn't get into Court to change the order until now.

This is NOT legal advice but IMO------>
DO NOT HAND THE CHILD OVER!!!!! If something happened could you ever forgive yourself????????

 

[casa]

I think you know by reading on this forum, the risks involved in denying visitation- so that's a choice you'll have to make.

I'd go to jail before I would carry a kid into a doper's house.

I wouldn't do it either- that's why I said it was OPs choice. I said that after I advised contacting authorities and/or Children's Services. (That I WOULD do). At least then, she'd have a report if the father took her to court for denial of visitation~ she could produce documentation that she was concerned about her daughter being in an environment with illegal drug use.

PS Don't go away...For every post that upsets you, there will be one that makes you feel it's worthwhile.

 

[seniorjudge]

PS Don't go away...For every post that upsets you, there will be one that makes you feel it's worthwhile.

Once in a contested custody case, I ordered the deputies to literally carry the kicking and screaming kids out of the courthouse to give to daddy and take away from mommy.

I was sick for days and still have nightmares about it.

BUT it was the absolute correct decision. I just hated to see the kids go through that.

 

[casa]

PS Don't go away...For every post that upsets you, there will be one that makes you feel it's worthwhile.

Once in a contested custody case, I ordered the deputies to literally carry the kicking and screaming kids out of the courthouse to give to daddy and take away from mommy.

I was sick for days and still have nightmares about it.

BUT it was the absolute correct decision. I just hated to see the kids go through that.

Well if they were kicking & screaming, then you must have done the right thing...if mother was truly caring for her children, they would not have been so fearful to go to the father, eh?

I do understand- in a clinical setting I've had to release children to parents with histories of abuse, hoping upon hope they follow the treatment plan and clean up their act.

It's not all fun, but it all counts!

 

[bononos]

Update:

Well, by no means was I going to "vouch" for ex's "supplier" nor him.
I contacted the local police to find my options before taking son over.
I also contacted ex to see if he would "allow" me to keep him since "he was having family problems" was how I put it.
He said no. The police met me there to access the situation, but found no visable reason. His mom was there also, she takes care of son more than ex.
I at least have this on report now. This is the second time in 3 months that drugs have been an issue. He admitted to a recent addiction and treatment a few months ago.
He is FAR from the brightest bulb in the bunch.
His father hates me more than anyone could hate a person, so I don't think any help from him is possible.
It's just hard not to have any immediate action. To wait and send child there knowing there is a bad situation.
Thank you all for the advice and senior judge, I needed the reaction you gave. It's what my reaction was also and your advice is needed and appreciated.

 

[seniorjudge]

Update:

Well, by no means was I going to "vouch" for ex's "supplier" nor him.
I contacted the local police to find my options before taking son over.
I also contacted ex to see if he would "allow" me to keep him since "he was having family problems" was how I put it.
He said no. The police met me there to access the situation, but found no visable reason. His mom was there also, she takes care of son more than ex.
I at least have this on report now. This is the second time in 3 months that drugs have been an issue. He admitted to a recent addiction and treatment a few months ago.
He is FAR from the brightest bulb in the bunch.
His father hates me more than anyone could hate a person, so I don't think any help from him is possible.
It's just hard not to have any immediate action. To wait and send child there knowing there is a bad situation.
Thank you all for the advice and senior judge, I needed the reaction you gave. It's what my reaction was also and your advice is needed and appreciated.

You are welcome.