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lisagr33

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What is the name of your state?TN I was able to see my children this weekend after not seeing them since August 12th. Their dad moved out of state. This weekend our children told me what was happening when they were with their dad. Our 8 year old son told me that he was on restriction for 8 days and was not able to tell his dad or stepmom that he loved them, could not kiss them or hug them, could not say good night or good morning to them and could not eat with them as a family. To me that is emotional abuse because my ex is withholding affection from him. They also told me that my ex and his wife are saying bad things about me in front of them like I am not a good mom and that I do bad things. I smoke and I know that is bad but they have no right to talk bad about me in front of our children. My ex's wife especially has no right to talk bad about me because she doesn't know anything about me except from what my ex has apparently said about me. Please help. :mad:
 


I AM ALWAYS LIABLE

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lisagr33 said:
What is the name of your state?TN I was able to see my children this weekend after not seeing them since August 12th. Their dad moved out of state. This weekend our children told me what was happening when they were with their dad. Our 8 year old son told me that he was on restriction for 8 days and was not able to tell his dad or stepmom that he loved them, could not kiss them or hug them, could not say good night or good morning to them and could not eat with them as a family. To me that is emotional abuse because my ex is withholding affection from him. They also told me that my ex and his wife are saying bad things about me in front of them like I am not a good mom and that I do bad things. I smoke and I know that is bad but they have no right to talk bad about me in front of our children. My ex's wife especially has no right to talk bad about me because she doesn't know anything about me except from what my ex has apparently said about me. Please help. :mad:

My response:

Please help, how? Would you like us to go over to their home and beat the crap out of them?

Lady, there are "Dear Abby" type sites all over the place. Try one of them.

IAAL
 

casa

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lisagr33 said:
What is the name of your state?TN I was able to see my children this weekend after not seeing them since August 12th. Their dad moved out of state. This weekend our children told me what was happening when they were with their dad. Our 8 year old son told me that he was on restriction for 8 days and was not able to tell his dad or stepmom that he loved them, could not kiss them or hug them, could not say good night or good morning to them and could not eat with them as a family. To me that is emotional abuse because my ex is withholding affection from him. They also told me that my ex and his wife are saying bad things about me in front of them like I am not a good mom and that I do bad things. I smoke and I know that is bad but they have no right to talk bad about me in front of our children. My ex's wife especially has no right to talk bad about me because she doesn't know anything about me except from what my ex has apparently said about me. Please help. :mad:
What does your court order say re; visitation?

Follow the visitation outlined in the court order~ If they deny you visitation, file a police report EVERY single time it happens. You'll be able to file in court to enforce visitation &/or contempt of the court order.

As far as what is said about you- you can ask if you go back to court to add language to the order that neither party is to speak disparagingly about the other parent...the problem is that is hard to prove. Your best bet is answer any questions the children have in age appropriate ways and just show by your actions that you love them and are a good person.
 

I AM ALWAYS LIABLE

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casa said:
What does your court order say re; visitation?

Follow the visitation outlined in the court order~ If they deny you visitation, file a police report EVERY single time it happens. You'll be able to file in court to enforce visitation &/or contempt of the court order.

MY RESPONSE: You have no idea WHY she hadn't seen her children since August 12, 2005. You're "assuming" that the CP has denied visitation when that pseudo-fact was never mentioned. Try to stay on course, Casa.



As far as what is said about you- you can ask if you go back to court to add language to the order that neither party is to speak disparagingly about the other parent...the problem is that is hard to prove. Your best bet is answer any questions the children have in age appropriate ways and just show by your actions that you love them and are a good person.

MY RESPONSE: Good "Dear Abby" response. Too bad there's no "law" in your response. Do you want to pay her legal fees, travel expenses, and her lost income, to go back into court across State lines over this? Neither does she.

IAAL
 

lisagr33

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Casa-my court order already has that put in the divorce decree. My attorney is already filing contempt charges on the visitation violation and discipline. Thanks for the help.
 

I AM ALWAYS LIABLE

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lisagr33 said:
Casa-my court order already has that put in the divorce decree. My attorney is already filing contempt charges on the visitation violation and discipline. Thanks for the help.


My response:

Then, if you already have an attorney, and the attorney is already filing contempt charges on the visitation violation and discipline, then would you mind telling us why you came here?

IAAL
 

I AM ALWAYS LIABLE

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I AM ALWAYS LIABLE said:
My response:

Then, if you already have an attorney, and the attorney is already filing contempt charges on the visitation violation and discipline, then would you mind telling us why you came here?

IAAL

My further response:

Well, we're all waiting for your answer. You were so quick to respond to Casa. Why won't you answer my simple question? I was correct, that's why.

IAAL
 

casa

Senior Member
I AM ALWAYS LIABLE said:
casa said:
As far as what is said about you- you can ask if you go back to court to add language to the order that neither party is to speak disparagingly about the other parent...the problem is that is hard to prove. Your best bet is answer any questions the children have in age appropriate ways and just show by your actions that you love them and are a good person.

MY RESPONSE: Good "Dear Abby" response. Too bad there's no "law" in your response. Do you want to pay her legal fees, travel expenses, and her lost income, to go back into court across State lines over this? Neither does she.

IAAL
IAAL~ the only legal remedy to a parent saying negative things is to add to the court order language which states neither are to do so. It's difficult to enforce, hence the 'Dear Abby' addition re; ways to handle it.

And, notice I said "IF you go back to court..." when referring to adding the language~ I certainly wouldn't encourage someone to go to court based solely on that, since it's hard to prove.
 

casa

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I AM ALWAYS LIABLE said:
casa said:
What does your court order say re; visitation?

Follow the visitation outlined in the court order~ If they deny you visitation, file a police report EVERY single time it happens. You'll be able to file in court to enforce visitation &/or contempt of the court order.

MY RESPONSE: You have no idea WHY she hadn't seen her children since August 12, 2005. You're "assuming" that the CP has denied visitation when that pseudo-fact was never mentioned. Try to stay on course, Casa.

IAAL
I gathered the information from following her previous posts.
 

I AM ALWAYS LIABLE

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casa said:
IAAL~ the only legal remedy to a parent saying negative things is to add to the court order language which states neither are to do so. It's difficult to enforce, hence the 'Dear Abby' addition re; ways to handle it.

And, notice I said "IF you go back to court..." when referring to adding the language~ I certainly wouldn't encourage someone to go to court based solely on that, since it's hard to prove.

My response:

Okay. Then what's left other than a "Dear Abby" response? This is a "legal site." Oh, and I just love our writer's response that she already has an attorney for her "problem," but won't come back to tell us why she wrote to this site in the first place. I'd really like to know.

IAAL
 

casa

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I AM ALWAYS LIABLE said:
My response:

Okay. Then what's left other than a "Dear Abby" response? This is a "legal site." Oh, and I just love our writer's response that she already has an attorney for her "problem," but won't come back to tell us why she wrote to this site in the first place. I'd really like to know.

IAAL
Valid points.

I throw 'Dear Abby' in here & there ~ must be old habit from being a child advocate. ;) Even though this is a legal site, sometimes a moral response prevents litigation in the longrun. Wouldn't you agree?
 

I AM ALWAYS LIABLE

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casa said:
Valid points.

I throw 'Dear Abby' in here & there ~ must be old habit from being a child advocate. ;) Even though this is a legal site, sometimes a moral response prevents litigation in the longrun. Wouldn't you agree?

My response:

True. But, do that in your office - - if you want. The fact remains, it didn't do anything here. Remember, our writer said, "[her] attorney is already filing contempt charges on the visitation violation and discipline."

So, why did she come here in the first place?

That's the only valid question.

IAAL
 

lisagr33

Member
IAAL-I posted this orginially to see if what was happening to our son was considered emotional abuse and if it could be brought up in court when my and ex and I go back. Our son is the only one of our two children who seem to be getting the brunt of any kind of punishment. I know that this is a legal site and I have gotten pretty good advice from the people that post here and they have been pretty helpful. I appreciate it that you are so brutally honest. Most people would take what has been posted here and get angry with what has been said and never come back. I on the other hand take it with a grain of salt. I appreciate that about you.
 

I AM ALWAYS LIABLE

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lisagr33 said:
IAAL-I posted this orginially to see if what was happening to our son was considered emotional abuse and if it could be brought up in court when my and ex and I go back.

My response:

Well, you decided to come back. Congratulations. However, you didn't say that in your initial post. Further, you said you've already hired an attorney for this exact problem. So, asking this question now is akin to putting the cart in front of the horse.

IAAL
 

lisagr33

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IAAL-I apologize in advance for not stating in the orginial post that I was curious to know if this could be considered emotional abuse and if it is possible that it could be brought up in court. I come here for any legal advice that I can get. I was just wanting to know if that was a possibility. Whether advice comes from my attorney or any attorney visiting the site is greatly appreciated. I trust my attorney and what he is doing but I like to get opinions of others here as well. I sometimes feel like I am blowing things out of the water. But this situation has been getting progressively worse as the days go by. My ex has had custody for 6 years now and everytime I see our children things seem to be going further down hill.
 
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