Employer requiring regular proof of Drivers License and Ins. for operating my vehicle

[Zigner]

That would depend on whose interpretation of "reasonable" would be used. Some would think it unreasonable to require that information, some would think it reasonable.

You know...not illegal and not totally unrelated to the job. In THIS instance, the OP acknowledges driving periodically on behalf of the company (i.e., not just commuting), so the request by employer is not unreasonable.

 

[PayrollHRGuy]

And there is no question that the request is reasonable. In fact, more and more insurance carriers are, if not requiring it, at least requesting it. In this case it is even more reasonable because the OP has been doing it in the past.

 

[LdiJ]

You know...not illegal and not totally unrelated to the job. In THIS instance, the OP acknowledges driving periodically on behalf of the company (i.e., not just commuting), so the request by employer is not unreasonable.

You believe that driving himself to meetings is driving on behalf of the company. I think its no different than commuting.

 

[LdiJ]

And there is no question that the request is reasonable. In fact, more and more insurance carriers are, if not requiring it, at least requesting it. In this case it is even more reasonable because the OP has been doing it in the past.

The OP only has one post on this thread, his original post. If you go back and read it again you will see that no where in that post does he say that he has been doing it in the past.

 

[Zigner]

You believe that driving himself to meetings is driving on behalf of the company. I think its no different than commuting.

You are wrong. It's not commuting and it's entirely different. Commuting is travel directly to work and home from work. Driving for the employer is driving from the office to the customer for a meeting and back to the office.

 

[Zigner]

The OP only has one post on this thread, his original post. If you go back and read it again you will see that no where in that post does he say that he has been doing it in the past.

Nope - he's got two. His second post is where even the OP acknowledges that the use of his personal vehicle is for company business.

 

[LdiJ]

You are wrong. It's not commuting and it's entirely different. Commuting is travel directly to work and home from work. Driving for the employer is driving from the office to the customer for a meeting and back to the office.

Ok, you and I were interpreting "meeting" differently. I was interpreting it as he had to drive somewhere to attend a meeting for all of the company employees...therefore driving himself to work at a different location than normal. For example, my boss holds company meetings at a local Knight's of Columbus because we have no one space at the office big enough to hold everyone.

I agree that if he is driving to attend a meeting with a customer that he is driving for company business.

 

[LdiJ]

Nope - he's got two. His second post is where even the OP acknowledges that the use of his personal vehicle is for company business.

What is the number of that post? I just cannot find it.

 

[cbg]

Number eleven

 

[quincy]

THanks for all of the feedback.

In my position it is NOT a requirement for me to have a vehicle, license or insurance as a condition of employment. I am only being asked to submit these things because I have a car and they know I use it 1 - 2 times per month for company business.

Not too hard to find.

 

[PayrollHRGuy]

Ok, you and I were interpreting "meeting" differently. I was interpreting it as he had to drive somewhere to attend a meeting for all of the company employees...therefore driving himself to work at a different location than normal. For example, my boss holds company meetings at a local Knight's of Columbus because we have no one space at the office big enough to hold everyone.

I agree that if he is driving to attend a meeting with a customer that he is driving for company business.

If the OP works at site A and has to drive to Site B during the workday for a meeting of company employees it is still driving for work.

If you leave your office and drive to the KoC during the workday it is still driving for work.

Just to support that. If you and the OP were non-exempt employees you would have to be paid for those drives.

 

[quincy]

If the OP works at site A and has to drive to Site B during the workday for a meeting of company employees it is still driving for work.

If you leave your office and drive to the KoC during the workday it is still driving for work.

Just to support that. If you and the OP were non-exempt employees you would have to be paid for those drives.

What I have bolded above is not (necessarily or even generally) correct. A trip to Kentucky Fried Chicken for lunch is (generally) not a work-related activity, even if the employee is driving an employer-owned vehicle.

 

[Zigner]

What I have bolded above is not (necessarily or even generally) correct. A trip to Kentucky Fried Chicken for lunch is (generally) not a work-related activity, even if the employee is driving an employer-owned vehicle.

Pssstttt

KoC = Knights of Columbus as LdiJ referenced in her post. Her employer makes her drive there during the work-day for a company-wide meeting. That drive to and from the meeting is "company business", not "commuting".

ETA: If the employees finish their day at KoC, then the drive home (or to pick up their kid, or whatever personal business they have) as they leave there would be considered a commute.

 

[LdiJ]

Pssstttt

KoC = Knights of Columbus as LdiJ referenced in her post. Her employer makes her drive there during the work-day for a company-wide meeting. That drive to and from the meeting is "company business", not "commuting".

ETA: If the employees finish their day at KoC, then the drive home (or to pick up their kid, or whatever personal business they have) as they leave there would be considered a commute.

Its always an after hours meeting.

 

[Zigner]

Its always an after hours meeting.

Your situation is different...it really has no relevance in this matter. It's the whole apples/oranges thing.