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Falony Embezzlement - Please advise

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Fanuc

Junior Member
Ilive in Michigan.

Any input would be greatly appreciated.
To get to the point I stole some stuff from my former employer and sold it. The total of everything is currently unknown to me but I know it was over $2,000.00 and I am being charged with felony embezzlement.
About three months ago my employer confronted me about this and I denied it to him, obviously my employment was terminated. The next day I went to the police station to confess. I felt bad for what I had done and just wanted to make things right. At the police station they called my former employer at my request and he came down for a face to face meeting with me as I confessed to him and the detective what I had done. At that time my employer was not pressing charges and I was not under arrest, at least I was never informed that I was under arrest and the whole time I was writing my confession the detective informed me that I was free to leave at any time. My rights were read to me, I denied councel, and was forthcoming about everything. When all was said and done my fingerprints were taken for a criminal record chack I assume and I went home. As of now I am not even sure if my former employer is pressing charges against me or not.
Here we are three months later and I finally get a call from the detective in charge of the case. He informed me that they were all wrapped up with the investigation and that the information was being submitted to the prosecutor for review and wot-not and that a warrant would be issued in about a week. to show good faith I plan on going to the district court on Monday and turning myself in to be arraigned in hopes that I can show I am not a flight risk in order to avoid paying any type of bond, is this a valid assumption?
My main question is this, how likely am I to see jailtime over this issue? I have a clean criminal record, I was totally honest with the detective in charge, in fact he even thanked me for being so honest. I turned myself in and confessed of my own free will. Anyone who speaks to me knows that I am sorry for what I did, and I am more than willing to pay any fine and do any type of service to pennant for all of this. But my main fear is being taken away from my wife who is pregnant. Currently I'm working two jobs to support us and if I go to jail she will have no way to support herself.
Thanks for taking time to read all of this.
 


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seniorjudge

Guest
I didn't see where (in your post) that you had made full restitution, even after three months.

Do that and post back. Ask your questions.

We will give you some answers then.
 

nanaII

Member
Turning yourself in...

It won't do you any good to turn yourself into the courts on Monday, anyway. They won't have any information on this case until the county attorney decides to file charges against you. That information is then turned over to the courts.
 

JETX

Senior Member
If you have the funds, hire an attorney. He/she may help you to process through the 'system'. If you cannot afford an attorney, wait until your arraignment and ask that one be appointed. That is the first, and best, step you can take at this point.

Another plus is that be doing this now, your attorney will already be 'up to speed' on the facts and charges.... and be able to expedite your release when you are detained.
 

karmrd

Junior Member
Confessed without disclosure?

Confessed? In writing to boot. Denied councel? Why would you do that? Do you think that the DA gives you a break because you feel bad about your actions? What where you thinking? You have already tried and convicted yourself without a formal accusation. Who advised you to do that? The Police? I am sure they told you that they would talk to the Judge and crap like that. The reason that everyone at the jail was so nice was because you saved them from having to do their job. Did you do their paperwork too? High conviction rates assure them of a good pay increase at the end of the year. You could at least make them earn it. The keepers of the prison won't be so nice to you be sure of that. Hope you got plenty of cash for a good lawyer. I suggest you find a lawyer that hangs out with the Judge at the local bar after work. They can share in the flood of income you are about to lose. Maybe just Maybe he can cut you a deal if you can show them the money.

In the future remember always retain an attorney before you talk to the police. That is the best legal advise you will ever get. Don't you remember the Ramsey's case? If they had talked to the Police they would both be under the jail by now and new evidents has proved their innocents.

After I re read your post I realized that I can't trash talk the police for bad advice. You stated that even the Detective was telling you that you could leave at any time and that was before waved your rights and confessed. He was trying to give you a clue to get out there before its too late. Too bad you didn't pick up on that. I had to chuckle when you say that three months later the investagator called you up and said he was wrapping up the investigation. I can hear him now.. We should have you in jail soon, sorry for the delay. I just wanted to ask you if there are any more crimes that you need to serve time for maybe we could kill two birds with one stone.
(Sorry about that,I couldn't resist.) I really hope you get a break you sound like a decent guy with a good heart but terrible judgement both in committing the crime and the commission of same.

"Even a fish wouldn't get caught if he would keep his mouth shut"
 
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JETX

Senior Member
karmrd said:
The reason that everyone at the jail was so nice was because you saved them from having to do their job. High conviction rates assure them of a good pay increase at the end of the year.
What a bunch of crap. How about you providing just ONE factual report to support your statement that somehow prosecutors get a 'good pay increase' based on their conviction rate??

The keepers of the prison won't be so nice to you be sure of that.
Though sometimes holding animals, you make it sound like the jailers are somehow zoo 'keepers'. Another of your far-fetched, erroneous statements??

If they had talked to the Police they would both be under the jail by now and new evidents has proved their innocents.
Do you mean 'evidence'??? :D

"Even a fish wouldn't get caught if he would keep his mouth shut"
And you wouldn't remove all doubt as to your lack of intelligence if you didn't post. :D
 

karmrd

Junior Member
Explain this and I'll back off.

Why would the "system" that you represent waste my tax money not to meintion destroying some good kid's life (He will never, ever, ever be able to
get a job with a felony embezzlement conviction) for a stupid mistake that he made then confessed to because of shame and guilt. His employer didn't run to the police even though he know who did it. A simple agreement to pay back the money would have resolved the matter. That could have been handled at the Police station without the DA getting involved. He will pay ten times the $2000 he stole in legal fees, fines, court cost etc,etc. and still never excape the record they keep. When is enough, enough? I guess we just build more prisons, lock up everyone that makes a mistake, give them nothing to do. Take away any job training or education beyond a GED then turn them out again without any means to support themselfs. We are manufactoring career criminals and for what? Sombody is cashing in on it you better believe it....

Now have you worthless forum and keep em coming. After all they beleive in your system. You depend on it.

p.s. You might want to check my spelling I don't use spell checker. Do you?
 

Heather2

Member
Fanuc said:
to show good faith I plan on going to the district court on Monday and turning myself in to be arraigned in hopes that I can show I am not a flight risk in order to avoid paying any type of bond, is this a valid assumption?
Can someone answer that question, I'm quite curious myself?
 
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seniorjudge

Guest
hmccandless said:
Can someone answer that question, I'm quite curious myself?
In general, I think this is a valid assumption:


to show good faith I plan on going to the district court on Monday and turning myself in to be arraigned in hopes that I can show I am not a flight risk in order to avoid paying any type of bond, is this a valid assumption?
 

JETX

Senior Member
karmrd said:
Why would the "system" that you represent waste my tax money not to meintion destroying some good kid's life
A 'debate' in theory of legislative intent is not the purpose of this forum. If you want to discuss your concerns, contact your state legislature.

Now have you worthless forum and keep em coming. After all they beleive in your system. You depend on it.
Spell checker, hell!! You need a 'logic checker'. Your comments simply make no sense at all. Care to try to put them into a legible form of English??
 

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