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Fear & Suicide Threat! NY

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CMartyns

Junior Member
What is the name of your state?
New York, Oswego County

My son is so sad he says he always thinks about killing himself! HE IS TEN!

My son will be 11 in August...he is a great little boy with a big heart and some special issues. He has Tourettes, ADHD, and Pervasive Hypersensitivity Disorder (Just a fancy word for being VERY emotionally sensitive!!!)

His Dad and I have, what the court order calls, 50/50 parenting time...and it is pretty dang close, too! He is with me every weekend, holiday, and every school vacation (X-mas, mid-winter, spring and all summer). Court order states "50/50 parenting time...days when academics are in session, child will reside with the father, days when academics are not in session, child will reside with Mother"

Just so you know, in case there is any wondering....NO...his Dad and I DO NOT get along...there is a LONG history of stalking and verbal and emotional abuse towards me. To this day even, and we haven't been together in 9 years.

My son had been saying for years that he doesn't want to live with his Dad..."he drinks beer all the time and hides in the basement working on "things" for the house...he doesn't spend any time with me Mom and the only thing there is to eat here are ramine noodles".

I had to, just recently, take my son to the emergency room for severe impaction causing bleeding down the back of his legs. Doctor stated it was caused from his nutritional needs not being met at home - leading to severe constipation, recal fissures and dehydration. Fahter sent him to school like that....I picked him up from school to take him....

Dad told my son 4 weeks ago to walk up and down the street with the push mower asking for $15 from neighbors so that Dad could have more money to pay bills......

Dad came out of the blue and asked our son if he would be happier living with mom and my boy said yes, yes, yes. Dad then told him that if it was what would make him truly happy he would make it happen and he promised him. The next day my son said he woke up to find Dad sitting on the edge of his bed. When he was fully awake Dad started screaming so hard that spit was flying out of his mouth - saying he would never left him leave, that Mom was evil, that he would have to sell his house, that he can't live with his Mom and 1/2 Sister because he would never be able to visit Dad again.....

My son called me that morning after Dad left for work crying hysterically....saying that he was terrified of Dad and that he was so sad at Dads he always thinks about killing himself! :eek: AND he has reiterated those feelings to me several times over the past few weeks!

I called Child Protective Services within the hour and picked him up THAT day for "summer vacation". Two counties interviewed, the county his Dad lives in says there is not an immediate threat of danger ?!?!?!?!? ...my county says there are real issues and that I might want to "consider" filing for modification (DUH?).

I filed for Modification on July 3rd in my county, and filed an order to show cause to get emergency temporary custody because of his threats to kill himself if he is sent back to Dads to live for school....Modification order accepted....emergency custody denied (I figured it would be...grumble...)

Scary part about that is.....the return date isn't until September 7th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
School starts September 5th ... by the court order I have to have him to Dads for School.
The last thing I want is for my son to feel those feeling again and have him follow through with his threats!

Here is my question.

I was told by three UNprofessionals that because there is a court date scheduled for modification of custody that I don't have to return him. Is that crazy, that's crazy, right?? I don't want to do anything that will put this case in jeopardy, ya know? But I don't want anything to happen to my son either.....should I file another "Order to show cause" in case the judge didn't hear me well enough? Should I call the court to see if they can get us in earlier?

AND....

Should I file for an order of protection for my son to protect him from his father?
I mean, it may be emotional abuse, but abuse is abuse, right? And isn't what Dad did on the edge of the bed considered harassing behavior?

Thanks in advance for any kind direction you could give....

Chris
 


BL

Senior Member
Ok , you mention a few behavioral issues .

Is the Child in Counseling ? In school IEPs , what ?

And no , while Dad may need help himself , the child was determined to be in no immediate danger .

Look schools are required to report suspected child abuse and abuse .

Have you talked to the schools health Dept , or nurses office ?
 

CMartyns

Junior Member
I'm sorry! Did I say behavioral problems?

He has some special issues...tourettes, ADHD and Pervasive Hypersentitivity Disorder, not behavioral issues....he has no counselor...he sees his neurologist on a regular basis for the 1 medication he takes ONLY for his tics.

He gets counseling at school, which is integrated within his IEP. The IEP does state there are emotional issues stemming from his home life with Dad...."word for word"....and the judge has a copy of that; and yes the school is in fact aware of his "wanting to kill himself". I notifed the school of that the same day I contacted Child Protective Services.

Mind you one county said no immediate threat...the other county said real issuesand that I should consider modifying. What the DSS investigator actually said was "If I were you I would be very concerned about the comments your son is making, perhaps you should consider filing for immediate modification? Especially if it will make your son feel safe"

I know Dad needs help.....the good lord above can't even help him...trust me!!!!!!
And, I'm not so much worried about Dad "hurting" our son as I am my Son hurting himself because of Dad....ya know?

Thanks
 

Gracie3787

Senior Member
CMartyns said:
I'm sorry! Did I say behavioral problems?

He has some special issues...tourettes, ADHD and Pervasive Hypersentitivity Disorder, not behavioral issues....he has no counselor...he sees his neurologist on a regular basis for the 1 medication he takes ONLY for his tics.

He gets counseling at school, which is integrated within his IEP. The IEP does state there are emotional issues stemming from his home life with Dad...."word for word"....and the judge has a copy of that; and yes the school is in fact aware of his "wanting to kill himself". I notifed the school of that the same day I contacted Child Protective Services.

Mind you one county said no immediate threat...the other county said real issuesand that I should consider modifying. What the DSS investigator actually said was "If I were you I would be very concerned about the comments your son is making, perhaps you should consider filing for immediate modification? Especially if it will make your son feel safe"

I know Dad needs help.....the good lord above can't even help him...trust me!!!!!!
And, I'm not so much worried about Dad "hurting" our son as I am my Son hurting himself because of Dad....ya know?

Thanks
For your son's sake, get him into a counseling program. With the amount of "issues" (health problems) he has, any child would need counseling- even a child from an intact home. Counseling will also be a very good way to prove (or disprove) either parents' allegations of neglect or abuse.
 

CMartyns

Junior Member
Gracie3787 said:
For your son's sake, get him into a counseling program. With the amount of "issues" (health problems) he has, any child would need counseling- even a child from an intact home. Counseling will also be a very good way to prove (or disprove) either parents' allegations of neglect or abuse.
Yes, we have an upcoming Psychiatric Appointment at PHCNY next week for this specific issue....Matthew used to go to a counselor on a weekly basis, but trying to get his father to take him was fruitless "Yes, of course I'm taking him" and then would blow it off....and I ended up spending hundreds on missed appointments that Ins. wouldn't cover. I took him as much as I could, but like I said, I live in a different county, work in a different city and his father is with him during the week. Funny.....Dad lives and works in the same town and the Dr is within two miles from his home and his work AND the school. Tell he how difficult that is?!?! This is also an issue I listed on my modification order......because it does have a provision in there for the father to comply with the Psych visits, but because HE had such a hard time going "ALL" that way to the appts., he ended the Dr patient relationship by telling the Dr that they had found services elsewhere and would be in contact for records to be transfered....LIE! :mad:

Either way....the last Psychiatrist he went to was a Lic. Bonehead and told us that Matthew didn't really benefit from his services anyway....he said that Tourettes is Hereditary, not a psychiatric issue and should be observed by his neurologist...ADHD could be monitored "through the school system and his PED" and the Pervasive Hypersensitivity Disorder is just a big title for an overly emotional child where a diagnosis cannot be made...nice guy. huh? Must be one of those crackerjack prize degrees!!! :rolleyes:

Anyway, the School Psychologist did see him twice a week when school was in session, but because he is so afraid to talk to his father (always has been because of Dads past reactions) he is apt to not open up to anyone about things too personal.... he is singing like a lil' birdie now though! That's my boy! I hope your right and this does help with allegations. I mean, even if it's a cry for attention, it's a pretty loud one.

Matthew needs someone to really HEAR him.

Ahhhhh...thanks for the vent!
 

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