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james3211

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What is the name of your state?What is the name of your state? RI

I filed a complaint in Federal Court, the other party answered 3 weeks ago. According to the rules, a scheduling conference should now commence to discuss discovery limits and the time frames etc. I havnt heard anything from the otherside.

Does the court set a date when this conference should be held...such as a deadline? Or do I approach them and set this conference up? Of the first contact with them, should I expect to discuss all of the above or do I need to send out Initial Disclores first?

Thanks for any positive feedback
 


rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
james3211 said:
What is the name of your state?What is the name of your state? RI

I filed a complaint in Federal Court, the other party answered 3 weeks ago. According to the rules, a scheduling conference should now commence to discuss discovery limits and the time frames etc. I havnt heard anything from the otherside.

Does the court set a date when this conference should be held...such as a deadline? Or do I approach them and set this conference up? Of the first contact with them, should I expect to discuss all of the above or do I need to send out Initial Disclores first?

Thanks for any positive feedback
What does your attorney say?
 

rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
james3211 said:
He said to.. post here and ask since there are alot of posters that can answer these questions.
These are questions your attorney should be answering as they know what they are doing with your case. How are we to know how you're answering or scheduling? That is what You are paying your attorney for.

Now if you are doing this in pro se and lying to us about having an attorney, then you need to check the rules before you file a lawsuit not ask for help this late in the process. Or are you a troll looking for some weekend entertainment?
 

james3211

Junior Member
rmet4nzkx said:
These are questions your attorney should be answering as they know what they are doing with your case. How are we to know how you're answering or scheduling? That is what You are paying your attorney for.

Now if you are doing this in pro se and lying to us about having an attorney, then you need to check the rules before you file a lawsuit not ask for help this late in the process. Or are you a troll looking for some weekend entertainment?
Of course I filed Pro Se. Why would I ask a question on this board if I had a lawyer? I was replying to your wise crack about 'what does your attorney say"

Its not to late in the process to ask a question. Like I said in my original post, thanks for any POSITIVE feedback. So if you have nothing positive to add...please stop posting nonsense on my thread. If you dont have an answer or dont want to answer then skip by the post. Easy solution. ;)
 
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rmet4nzkx

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Of course I asked the question because I am intelligent and you are not providing us with the facts needed to answer your questions.

You should know the rules forward and backwards before you file a lawsuit in Federal court.

Since you are in pro se, I will assume you couldn't find an attorney or agency to take your case on contingency so the merits may be questionable. If this is the case, no amount of advice on procedure, it will be nearly impossible to win in pro se, if the case has no merit.

You don't need to ask us what the procedures are, you can get that information yourself.

Positive feedback= Get an attorney.
Get a copy of the rules and read them.
 

james3211

Junior Member
rmet4nzkx said:
Of course I asked the question because I am intelligent and you are not providing us with the facts needed to answer your questions.

You should know the rules forward and backwards before you file a lawsuit in Federal court.

Since you are in pro se, I will assume you couldn't find an attorney or agency to take your case on contingency so the merits may be questionable. If this is the case, no amount of advice on procedure, it will be nearly impossible to win in pro se, if the case has no merit.

You don't need to ask us what the procedures are, you can get that information yourself.

Positive feedback= Get an attorney.
Get a copy of the rules and read them.
My case has merit. Because you have a problem with someone filing Pro Se, you have nothing constructive to add. Like the saying goes, What I like about God is...he doesnt think he is a lawyer.
This isnt about winning, its about loading up the otherside with so much paperwork that they will want to settle. ;) So thanks for your post Mr Intelligent, I only hope that of your 5000 posts, that you did give a decent answer to someone besides...."get a lawyer"
 

rmet4nzkx

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james3211 said:
My case has merit. Because you have a problem with someone filing Pro Se, you have nothing constructive to add. Like the saying goes, What I like about God is...he doesnt think he is a lawyer.
This isnt about winning, its about loading up the otherside with so much paperwork that they will want to settle. ;) So thanks for your post Mr Intelligent, I only hope that of your 5000 posts, that you did give a decent answer to someone besides...."get a lawyer"
It has nothing to do with filing in pro se, but how you present yourself. If you had a case with merit, you would not be here, you are here because you are not equiped to litigate your lawsuit and now relying on several misconceptions, such as mo paper, mo better. Don't expect to win a settlement because you file a lot of paper.

You don't know what you are doing and we cannot hold your hand.

There is nothing more we can do for you, you have chosen to be your own attorney, now, get your rules and read them.
 

james3211

Junior Member
rmet4nzkx said:
It has nothing to do with filing in pro se, but how you present yourself. If you had a case with merit, you would not be here, you are here because you are not equiped to litigate your lawsuit and now relying on several misconceptions, such as mo paper, mo better. Don't expect to win a settlement because you file a lot of paper.

You don't know what you are doing and we cannot hold your hand.

There is nothing more we can do for you, you have chosen to be your own attorney, now, get your rules and read them.
So who elected you to answer for everyone here? You have no specifics and assume to much. It was a general question that could have been easily answered. I have found my answer anyway.
 

rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
No one else is answering because I have given you the answer.

You provided no facts to advise other than I advised, I have not assumed anything other than the obvious, that you came here and intentionally lied to us claiming to have an attorney then asked a question making it obvious that you were lying.

You have your answer.
Good luck.
 

james3211

Junior Member
rmet4nzkx said:
No one else is answering because I have given you the answer.

You provided no facts to advise other than I advised, I have not assumed anything other than the obvious, that you came here and intentionally lied to us claiming to have an attorney then asked a question making it obvious that you were lying.

You have your answer.
Good luck.
I wasnt lying, I was being sarcastic with regards to your foolish question. I got three answers from people here via email. I guess that shows how much weight you hold here.

Goodluck to you too
 

rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
james3211 said:
I wasnt lying, I was being sarcastic with regards to your foolish question. I got three answers from people here via email. I guess that shows how much weight you hold here.

Goodluck to you too
Good Luck to you too.
That is even more reason for you to get an attorney. You should not be here at this point asking basic points about procedure, there is a set of rules, you need to consult the rules.
 
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badapple40

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Lets think about why you REALLY REALLY should get an attorney for a federal matter.

Where I work does not allow first or second year attorneys litigate in federal court. There is a reason for that -- some federal judges give little leeway.

First, if it were me in federal court, on my own claims, I'd hire an attorney, and I have the benefit and wisdom and experience (a number of years and a number of trials) to know what I am doing.

Why would I do that?

1. Because I would lack the impartiality to pursue the matter like it needs to be pursued, to objectively evaluate the case, including both its strengths and weaknesses, to think about the pitfalls and to have the distance from the case to approach the other side without being combative.

2. Because you don't want to defend your own deposition, where you are thinking about both the questions asked and not being tripped up, and the legal objections to questions that might exist -- it is just too much for any one person.

3. Because you lose some credibility with a jury when you stand up and represent yourself, where you have to testify in the narrative without the aid of an attorney asking you questions and checking off to make sure the elements of the claims are met, and you set yourself up for both a directed verdict or summary judgment if you do a poor job in your deposition.

Lets talk about additional considerations for a pro se litigant that does not understand the legal system:

1. There are discovery pitfalls that might result in judgment for the other side.

2. Your strategy of burying the other side with frivolous paperwork can and will result in the imposition of sanctions that quite probably will result in the dismissal of the suit and a fine imposed by the federal judge -- those games will not work in federal court.

3. There is discovery to get through, which will include a thorough understanding of evidentiary admissibility rules, objections to discovery, responding to objections, timing, and the like.

4. There is dispositive (summary judgment) to get through, that will probably result in the dismissal of the suit (with prejudice) and your losing the case. That will also involve your ability to put forward competent, credible evidence to properly oppose their motion.

And if you survive all that:

You will then have to go through a trial, being aware of a number of things like the rules of evidence, the requirement to put on an opening statement comprised of facts, not argument, and to put on enough facts to meet every element of every claim you have made, the ability to put on competent evidence and be able to respond to the other side's objections, the ability to protect your case by objecting where appropriate, the ability to effectively cross examine their witnesses, and then you have to testify and again worry about both protecting yourself as a witness as well as dealing with the evidentiary issues.

In short, rmet's advice wasn't made to be sarcastic or biting -- it was made based on an understanding that no one should be representing themselves in federal court. I wouldn't represent myself in federal court -- and you should look to get an attorney if you hope to be successful.

I have NEVER seen a pro se litigant prevail in federal court and thats over about 20-30 cases. When I was in private practice, we'd put younger associates on pro se cases, because it was so easy pickings.

If that doesn't dissuade you, then all I can say is best of luck. As for your questions about the conference, read the local rules in the federal court you are in and see what it says about the 26(f) -- or call the clerk's office and see what the story is.
 

rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
Thank You BA for explaining why OP needs to get an attorney, I can only hazzard to guess what is happening and who is emailing him about federal proceedure and glad it isn't happening here. Too much cannot be said about objectivity.
 
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