fiance getting harassed in prison!

[I AM ALWAYS LIABLE]

He doesn't have a public defender, he has a private attorney.

MY RESPONSE: And who, my dear, said he had a Public Defender? Can't you read, or is that another psychological roadblock of yours?


And for you to assume he isn't a professional in any area is stupid.

MY RESPONSE: No, it's not. As time goes on, you'll see and learn.



He's got a lot of money from his Indian tribe and by the way and how dare you assume he will be going back to drugs.

MY RESPONSE: Oh, so that's why you love him! So you can sit back and throw bon-bons in your mouth while watching Oprah.

Assume? Sweetheart, it's a statistical fact - - he's got a 75 to 90 percent chance of going back. And, when the money runs out, just what to you think he'll be doing? He had money before he went into prison - - yet, he chose trafficking and using. You tell me what his chances are for staying out.



His parents died a few years ago and he go caught up in the wrong crowd because of the pain he had.

MY RESPONSE: You mean to say that he forgot to use his good judgment and his free choice to stay out of trouble?



How many "good" people beat their wives and molest their children?

MY RESPONSE: Lots. And I don't want them in my neighborhood, either.




How many people steal from innocent people?

MY RESPONSE: Your boyfriend, for one. When he sold drugs, how many "innocent" children's lives did he affect? Do you sincerely believe that some of those drugs didn't fall into the hands of a juvenile? Who are you trying to kid, lady?




You don't know what your neighbors are doing. Look at all the celebrities that get caught with drugs or weapons or shop lifting?

MY RESPONSE: Good. They get punished to.




Those people who are your so called "good" people just haven't got caught yet or maybe never will.

MY RESPONSE: No, my dear. You've been watching "Cops" too much. The vast majority of society are law abiding citizens. But, people like you who "thrust" themselves into the penal system, and then fall in love with a prisoner, see only the crap in society. Apparently, you don't get out much - - or, as contributor "Son of Slam" said, maybe you are too "ugly."




What about that guy who killed his wife and unborn son. I bet his neighbors thought he was a "good" neighbor, huh?

MY RESPONSE: You know, crap happens. But, he's no longer in that neighborhood anymore, is he. And guess what? He'll never be going back either.




I don't fall in love with "prisoners" I fell in love with a prisoner. I've never been with a felon before or have even know one. Like I said before, this is something I least expected.

MY RESPONSE: Convince your mother of that. She's the one wringing her hands, and asking where she went wrong with you. She's got to be wondering where your self-respect went.




Infact I know of a woman in another state who is a criminal attorney and fell in love with one of her clients who is locked up and she goes and visits him, so it does happen.

MY RESPONSE: It only "happens" to those without self-respect, pride or dignity. Get some, will you?


IAAL

 

[Son of Slam]

He's got a lot of money from his Indian tribe .... How many people steal from innocent people?

When I was a teenager we use to go to the Indian reservation to drink and watch the sheriff have too sit down the road and wait for us. We were allowed to drink there because we would give a few beers to some drunk Indian. These people had nothing but some old shacks and government checks and were lazy to the bone. It was one of the most disgusting places I've ever seen. Today the place is full of million dollar homes and a casino where moron losers sit for hours in front of little machines putting quarter after quarter in them while listening to the hypnotic noise they make. Los Vegas is only a couple hundred miles from there, but of the hundreds of cars in the parking lot, few look like they could make it that far. No doubt your lover has money from sucking it off of these poor losers.

 

[silyshely]

You know, I'm not gonna respond to you guys anymore. I'm sorry that you feel the way you do and I know I can never make you see any different. I just wanted some legal advice, not personal opinions. I love my man and that's the way it's gonna be and I'm sorry that bothers you. If you want to jump on someone's ****, then this is not the place to do it. I am an educated woman who's getting a bachelor's in criminal justice. I may never be able to change my man, but if anything learn from this experience. You guys just hide behind your computer screen like a couple of whimps. You guys are the one who need to get help. Anger management is what I think they call it.

 

[I AM ALWAYS LIABLE]

My response:

Okay, I tried. It's your life.

But, in closing, if there's nothing else that you remember about this dialogue, then remember this - - in the end, your legacy is: Did you know what the hell you were doing?

IAAL

 

[Mei-Mei]

just an aside

IAAL said: "This is the difference between liberals (you) and me (conservative).


I don't agree. My politics lean toward liberalism and I still think her loser boyfriend should be in prison and the first place she should be running is to the psychiatrist, and not an attorney.

 

[silyshely]

I don't want personal opinions in here please, I want legal advice in case you go lost on the wrong web site. Or can you not read?

 

[Mei-Mei]

I've been wondering about your ability to read or reason.

Your question has been answered not once, but twice. The reason I posted my opinion concerning this matter is that I was truly shocked by your sheer gall. You've been waiting for visitation for one month, and you and your prisoner 'boyfriend' have the effrontery to question whether or not your rights have been violated? Do you at all recognize the irony of the fact that your boyfriend does not care about other people's rights, hence his incarceration? Do you really think that can be chalked up by the banality, "Everybody makes mistakes?"

 

[silyshely]

My fiance has learned from his mistake and I know he is sorry for what he did. I'm glad to know that thesre are perfect people out there like you. But for people in the "real world" we all make mistakes. Some are just more harsh than others. If you have no "legal" advice to give me than I suggest you take your criticism to someone who gives a damn. I hope to God that someone you love or trust doesn't end up in the slammer. I think it would be a good lesson for you.

 

[Chilton]

Ignorance

Shelly,
Don't take to heart the ignorance that has been shown to you.

It seems to me, that it is much easier for the ones who are being outright rude and malicious, are of a small mind.

They use stereo-types and the media; to act as though they have all the information they need to attack you.

It is also scary to see that they perceive this as the norm and if this is.....we can only wonder why society is the way it is.

Chilton

 

[silyshely]

Thank you for understanding. I just wanted some legal advice in this forum, not to be attacked with put downs and personal opinions of my actions.

 

[I AM ALWAYS LIABLE]

My fiance has learned from his mistake and I know he is sorry for what he did. I'm glad to know that thesre are perfect people out there like you. But for people in the "real world" we all make mistakes. Some are just more harsh than others. If you have no "legal" advice to give me than I suggest you take your criticism to someone who gives a damn. I hope to God that someone you love or trust doesn't end up in the slammer. I think it would be a good lesson for you.

My response:

Has anybody said that I, or anyone, is "perfect"?

Has anybody said that I, or anyone, doesn't make "mistakes"?

No, not at all. You conjured that up as an excuse for your actions. Does it make you feel good to wrap yourself in that blanket?

The only difference between you and otherwise "normal society" is that we don't make "mistakes" that wind up getting us thrown in prison.

Sure we make mistakes - - typing, being late for an appointment, not getting flowers on special days, forgetting to pay a bill on time - - you know, normal stuff.

But your boyfriend made MORE than just a mere "mistake". Selling drugs is PURPOSEFUL - - not a "mistake". Here's a clue - - that's why he's in prison. Is it "normal" for your friends, family and acquaintances to be in prison? It's not normal for me.

And, going out and actually looking for, and falling in love with, a prisoner is more than just a "mere" mistake.

I guess I'm just too normal.

IAAL

 

[badtenant]

What i dont understand is:

When someone gets a lot of money, why dont they invest it ???????

In themselves, into making a hobby into a business, going back to school?



Yet he chose to sell drugs.


He's really is a Wild N' Crazy, good for nuthin INJUN!

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My fiance has learned from his mistake and I know he is sorry for what he did. I'm glad to know that thesre are perfect people out there like you. But for people in the "real world" we all make mistakes. Some are just more harsh than others. If you have no "legal" advice to give me than I suggest you take your criticism to someone who gives a damn. I hope to God that someone you love or trust doesn't end up in the slammer. I think it would be a good lesson for you.

 

[silyshely]

Wow, when I posted my situation I thought I was going to get legal advice. I didn't know this was a chat room with a bunch of closed minded idiots. I guess you learn something new everyday!

 

[I AM ALWAYS LIABLE]

Wow, when I posted my situation I thought I was going to get legal advice. I didn't know this was a chat room with a bunch of closed minded idiots. I guess you learn something new everyday!

My response:

It's better than being an "openminded" idiot. In other words, you know it's wrong and foolish, yet you're jumping in with both feet anyway.

I guess you haven't learned anything today.

IAAL

 

[silyshely]

I wasn't talking to you and it's really none of your business so go steal some more money from some more of your poor clients and leave me alone. God, you must have no life!