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Frustrated father of 4 at the end of his rope with FOC and CS

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Griffzan

Member
What is the name of your state? Mi

Forgive me if this question has been answered, I will try to explain in detail but not eat up three pages doing so. Me and my g/f have been together now for about 8yrs, and what has happened started with the conception of our first son who is now 7. When my son was born I was in Texas (still in the picture just visiting family) and she was approached at the hospital by a member of the government (FOC FIA etc not sure which) who informed her that if she didn't pursue an order of support than my son would not recieve insurance (I'm not sure if there's any truth to this) but was also told that the order could be stopped at any time. (Yes we actually need assistance and are not trying to milk the state, I am a very hardworking person) After I returned a day later and was given the news, I contacted Foc and was told there was no such order, well a year later (mind you I was working landscaping with my step-father through this whole time) I was able to start a job at the local GM plant and make much more money. After a month or so I noticed that the support order that I thought was a "never was" became an "always been there". Being that I was not on the books with my step-father I was not able to be tracked by the collections dept. at FOC and once I popped up the order became $65 a week (which my not be alot but when your already taking care of a family it doesn't make much sense to me to pay twice. Also before I get on a rant we (my g/f and I have always lived together. So when I set up a date with the caseworker, I was arrested (before not at). And as a result lost our house (rented not bought) Mean while I get out set up another date to get the order stopped and was then told that the only way to do so is get on the grant with my family (I felt I didn't need the states help even though my family did) but to do so ment that we would have to live together and have proof (bill, lease agreement etc) but since we lost our house we haven't been able to save up money to get another house because of paying CS (we were although still living together with her parents) and our other bills. So, not using my head, decided the only way to save up was to not pay CS which worked, for about 2 months when I was arrested again, thus starting the vicuios (sp) circle over again. This went on until about a year and a half ago when a barrowed money from my parents and put a deposit and first months rent on a home. And followed through with everything I was told to do to get he order stopped, and even got the judges signiture on the order to stop the support order BUT (now the kicker and questions) Child support is still after me (not for arrearges) for the order ??? also my income tax is being with held and I may go to jail at any time from the looks of the letters I've been getting. On a side note we have a total of 4 children Oldest son, twins boy and girl and our youngest daughter. All of which have been put on this same order even though my g/f never signed a thing. I feel beaten down by the government and lost, we own a home together now, that I'm afraid to put my name on because they may take it not to mention the possibilty of losing it because I get sent to prison or heck even 30 days would cause that. What can do I set up another appointment with our NEW case worker and am afraid to go because I may go o jail and we'll lose everything. What can I do to prepare for this. What can I do to stop them from taking my taxes the rest of my checks and to get back the money I paid into so far not to mention the arrearages
 


Gracie3787

Senior Member
Griffzan said:
What is the name of your state? Mi

Forgive me if this question has been answered, I will try to explain in detail but not eat up three pages doing so. Me and my g/f have been together now for about 8yrs, and what has happened started with the conception of our first son who is now 7. When my son was born I was in Texas (still in the picture just visiting family) and she was approached at the hospital by a member of the government (FOC FIA etc not sure which) who informed her that if she didn't pursue an order of support than my son would not recieve insurance (I'm not sure if there's any truth to this) but was also told that the order could be stopped at any time. (Yes we actually need assistance and are not trying to milk the state, I am a very hardworking person) After I returned a day later and was given the news, I contacted Foc and was told there was no such order, well a year later (mind you I was working landscaping with my step-father through this whole time) I was able to start a job at the local GM plant and make much more money. After a month or so I noticed that the support order that I thought was a "never was" became an "always been there". Being that I was not on the books with my step-father I was not able to be tracked by the collections dept. at FOC and once I popped up the order became $65 a week (which my not be alot but when your already taking care of a family it doesn't make much sense to me to pay twice. Also before I get on a rant we (my g/f and I have always lived together. So when I set up a date with the caseworker, I was arrested (before not at). And as a result lost our house (rented not bought) Mean while I get out set up another date to get the order stopped and was then told that the only way to do so is get on the grant with my family (I felt I didn't need the states help even though my family did) but to do so ment that we would have to live together and have proof (bill, lease agreement etc) but since we lost our house we haven't been able to save up money to get another house because of paying CS (we were although still living together with her parents) and our other bills. So, not using my head, decided the only way to save up was to not pay CS which worked, for about 2 months when I was arrested again, thus starting the vicuios (sp) circle over again. This went on until about a year and a half ago when a barrowed money from my parents and put a deposit and first months rent on a home. And followed through with everything I was told to do to get he order stopped, and even got the judges signiture on the order to stop the support order BUT (now the kicker and questions) Child support is still after me (not for arrearges) for the order ??? also my income tax is being with held and I may go to jail at any time from the looks of the letters I've been getting. On a side note we have a total of 4 children Oldest son, twins boy and girl and our youngest daughter. All of which have been put on this same order even though my g/f never signed a thing. I feel beaten down by the government and lost, we own a home together now, that I'm afraid to put my name on because they may take it not to mention the possibilty of losing it because I get sent to prison or heck even 30 days would cause that. What can do I set up another appointment with our NEW case worker and am afraid to go because I may go o jail and we'll lose everything. What can I do to prepare for this. What can I do to stop them from taking my taxes the rest of my checks and to get back the money I paid into so far not to mention the arrearages
I'm confused. Are you saying that you and your GF live together and have always lived together? If that's true, why haven't you been paying the CS? Even though you pay, it will go right back into your household, so there really isn't any reason not to pay.

IF your GF has never recieved public assistance she can go to CSE and show that you live together and ask them to stop the order. They may or may not do it, but I really don't see where it makes any difference. The only other thing you can do is to get an attorney to get everything straightened out. You cannot get your money back- it has gone to support your kids.
 

CandiceH

Member
It sounds like SHE and the kids are/were receiving state medical assistance. Of course the state is going to want to be paid back for that, and they should be. Are you sure this is CS and NOT a reimbursement for the medical expenses for the birth and medical care of YOUR children? I am asking because I have a very good friend who was in a similar situation. The got married AFTER the child was born but the mother had received Maternity Medicaid. It took the father 8 years to pay the state, though they were married and he was supporting the child. The state NEEDS and WANTS to be paid back.
 

stealth2

Under the Radar Member
What I'm not getting is that, even with these financial problems, y'all decided to have three MORE kids. :confused:
 

NotSoNew

Senior Member
if the CS is because your GF/kids recieved state insurance, then you are paying for it. i dont understand why that would be confusing to you, your GF could have stopped using the states insurance/benefits and you wouldnt have been racking up all this support.
 

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