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sweetkindgal08

Junior Member
What is the name of your state? California

I need some closure and advice Please! My ex has been orderd to pay a large amount due to arrers in back child support. My problem and question is. I don't get the full amount a month in fact he is sometimes $800 to $1000 short each month, Yes it is with Family Court and they are taking money out from his wages however my ex has lied about his income and I have proof.

He is a Vice President of a company he and his brother own, I was married with this man for 17 years new him 20 so I know what he made since 85 and his income always kept going up and many large bonuses until we went to court in 03 in 04 he became co/owner iwth his brother. Can I do anymore then what Family Court is already doing? They have told me that everytime they call my ex to ask about his income they say he does not work much and he was paying half of his income but that can't be. The secretary has lied in the past and they joked about it, this was when my ex brother in law divorced his ex and wanted to make sure she didn't get much money and they hide some of his income/accounts he had with the company. This is a family owned business since 1961 and othe lawyers told me that owners are able to hide things. He owes me over $25,000 in arrers and its as if he does not care. He absolutley has the money. Should I just let Family Court handle this and move on. Please any advice will be helpfull, its just hard for me now not getting the amount that was orderd by the court. I work and take care of my only child. I just was not sure if I should hire a lawyer or private investigator because Familly Court did say if they felt he was not being truthful they do have their own lawyer that would be able to order records from this company.

Thank You
 


ezmarelda

Member
What is the name of your state? California

I need some closure and advice Please!... a lot of detals not needed. Should I just let Family Court handle this and move on. Thank You

The best revenge is to be happy

No matter how much it sucks, try to be happy you are getting anything at all.

Let CSA deal with the problems and get on with lovin' your kiddo
 

fairisfair

Senior Member
What is the name of your state? California

I need some closure and advice Please! My ex has been orderd to pay a large amount due to arrers in back child support. My problem and question is. I don't get the full amount a month in fact he is sometimes $800 to $1000 short each month, Yes it is with Family Court and they are taking money out from his wages however my ex has lied about his income and I have proof.

He is a Vice President of a company he and his brother own, I was married with this man for 17 years new him 20 so I know what he made since 85 and his income always kept going up and many large bonuses until we went to court in 03 in 04 he became co/owner iwth his brother. Can I do anymore then what Family Court is already doing? They have told me that everytime they call my ex to ask about his income they say he does not work much and he was paying half of his income but that can't be. The secretary has lied in the past and they joked about it, this was when my ex brother in law divorced his ex and wanted to make sure she didn't get much money and they hide some of his income/accounts he had with the company. This is a family owned business since 1961 and othe lawyers told me that owners are able to hide things. He owes me over $25,000 in arrers and its as if he does not care. He absolutley has the money. Should I just let Family Court handle this and move on. Please any advice will be helpfull, its just hard for me now not getting the amount that was orderd by the court. I work and take care of my only child. I just was not sure if I should hire a lawyer or private investigator because Familly Court did say if they felt he was not being truthful they do have their own lawyer that would be able to order records from this company.

Thank You
I doubt a private investigator is going to do you any good.

Perhaps a forensic accountant.
 

sweetkindgal08

Junior Member
Feeling Happy

The best revenge is to be happy

No matter how much it sucks, try to be happy you are getting anything at all.

Let CSA deal with the problems and get on with lovin' your kiddo


Thank you and I will. No matter what I will get the money some day, thats what Family Court Officer told me.

I like feeling happy.
 

sweetkindgal08

Junior Member
No one can make that statement with any assurance.

However, is the money being paid through SDU and is CSSD involved?

Yes its already with family court. They have suspended his licence, took his companies licence and also I recieve his income tax return money. The reason why I know I'll get the money is because the court has put a lien on his home and no matter what, if he recieves money from a inheritance or sells his house they will take the money owed to me first.

So even though its frustrating when I don't recieve the total amount a month owed to me.....I will at the end of all this.:)
 

Zephyr

Senior Member
you may be able to get a judgment against him for the arrears portion which may enable you to place a lien against properties he owns...home, business, bank accounts etc....unless you know and have information/evidence enough to convince a judge- I don't think you would necessarily have grounds to subpoena the business records for more detailed proof
 

LdiJ

Senior Member
I doubt a private investigator is going to do you any good.

Perhaps a forensic accountant.
I agree, a forensic accountant in a situation like this could really do a WHOLE lot of good.

Seriously...if they are really playing games, they will NOT want those games exposed, because of the tax liability. They can't be playing games with you without also playing games with the IRS and that would put them at a huge risk. Get a forensic accountant involved (its expensive, understand that) and they may cave, very quickly.

The downside to that is if they are NOT playing games, you will have spent a great deal of money to find that out. Get someone to help you do some research into the industry that they are in, so that you have a clue as to whether or not their business really could be having economical downturns.
 

sweetkindgal08

Junior Member
I agree, a forensic accountant in a situation like this could really do a WHOLE lot of good.

Seriously...if they are really playing games, they will NOT want those games exposed, because of the tax liability. They can't be playing games with you without also playing games with the IRS and that would put them at a huge risk. Get a forensic accountant involved (its expensive, understand that) and they may cave, very quickly.

The downside to that is if they are NOT playing games, you will have spent a great deal of money to find that out. Get someone to help you do some research into the industry that they are in, so that you have a clue as to whether or not their business really could be having economical downturns.


Thank you I will get a forensic accountant because I know in the past they have screwed with the IRS. In fact my last lawyer got suspicious himself and tried to get an order but his company denied to give out any information. I think its unfair how people like my ex could have so much money and cheat the system. Thats why the courts have got more stric with these dead beat parents I say parents because I know woman don't pay to. But the reason why the court has got strict is because they don't want famlies going on welfare. I'll keep you posted.
 

sweetkindgal08

Junior Member
Error in Court Documents

What is the name of your state? California

I've been divorced since 2001 in 2005 my ex noticed in our documents it said I am to be paid $$ in spousal support until I die or remarry. Ever since 2001 I swear I have had to go to court like every year except in 2003 I was clear of courts. But either I took him or Child Protective Service did.

Every single time the Judge has said they won't touch a order that was done 7 years ago and especially since in 2004 I recieved full custody of my children.

My ex recently fired his previous lawyer and got a new one and I recieved a form Income Expense and my previous lawyer said I don't have to fill this out because since I have full custody it does not matter is this true? Or could my ex try to change the spousal support even though every single time the same judge said he won't touch or change that order ever.

I'm just so frustrated and perhaps feeling stressed for nothing but since I saw my ex changed lawyers and now recieved the document wanting to know my income I felt my ex was up to something AGAIN!

Anyway advice would be helpfull.
 

CourtClerk

Senior Member
FYI:

The OP posted this same question multiple times on this forum. When asked not to triple post, this is the response that she gave to one of our beloved Senior Members (SJ):

Don't answer a question if you don't have an answer
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Please people we have every right to post what ever we want. People come on here to ask for advice not to be told you have posted the same thread for goodness sake

Just respond if you have good advice.
So, I won't be helping her... and I deleted my prior response. I don't think her response was sweet or kind. :rolleyes:
 

nextwife

Senior Member
Yes its already with family court. They have suspended his licence, took his companies license and also I receive his income tax return money. The reason why I know I'll get the money is because the court has put a lien on his home and no matter what, if he recieves money from a inheritance or sells his house they will take the money owed to me first.

So even though its frustrating when I don't recieve the total amount a month owed to me.....I will at the end of all this.:)
Just an FYI- if he ever lost his home through foreclosure, you'd get nothing. So a lien is not a 100% solution. Also, if he stays in his home until he dies, you only get paid if you outlive him. An inheritance is not guarantied either. Many people live far longer, and rack up far more long term care expenses that eat up their estates than many realize. I see families surprised by insolvent estates all the time.
 

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