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fairisfair

Senior Member
rmet4nzkx said:
You gave out wrong information, I was not the only one to point it out. You should admit it and move on. It does a great disservice to posters who come here for advice and to receive wrong advice, now that kid will go off thinking that there is no possibility that he is the father of that child or what to do to establish his parental rights if and or when a child is born. Sure there are times when everyone doesn't agree here or when trolls disrupt the forums, but when you are wrong, you need to admit it or better yet, don't give out advice that is absolute in nature without qualification. Just because some posters feel the need to make up their advice just so they can post doesn't make it right either. Research if you don't know or wait for someone else to answer.
but he will have a wonderful grasp on superfecundation and chimera, which has absolutely NOTHING to do with his questions. Practice what you preach. as for trolls, you even post when you are specifically requested to stay off someone's thread. When is the last time you admitted you were wrong RMET, or is it that you just never are??
 


Halls said:
rmet, 4 days before a missed period still does not match one week of pg. I've also taking the EPT and I could never really tell for sure(too faint) until a good 2 weeks a few days later I was pg. I really don't think anyone can really confirm really good till 2 weeks after the pg.

I think the others agreed with me it is a bit to early for this gal to know she is pg or not. Why you find joy in pointing out I was wrong about something this petty seeing you know I'm right!

So, on that note, Please stop pointing out I'm wrong about everything. I don't need your help, especially when I'm not wrong! The OP was asking for advice, maybe you can stick to giving them advice rather than going around policing mine!;)

:p AMEN :p
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
nextwife said:
Whether she does now or not, at most it is a VERY early pregnancy:
http://www.health-science-report.com/miscarriage/miscarriage-cause/miscarriage-percentage.html

"Miscarriage Percentage
Actual miscarriage percentage among women is high; risk reduction and early care of HPV dysplasia found in a Pap smear and other STDs improves chances.

According to statistics, about a half of all fertilized eggs end up miscarried before a woman even knows about the pregnancy. Hence, a natural loss is common and many women (about 87%) who have experienced one fetal loss are likely to deliver a baby successfully in the future. Actual miscarriage percentage among women is high; risk reduction and early care of HPV dysplasia found in a Pap smear and other STDs improves chances."

One week, even if test-able, is earlier than most women would traditionally have been aware they are pregnant. It is now realized, medically, that far more women have lost pregnancies in the earliest weeks (and never been aware of it), before they missed a period, than was previously thought. Until and unless there actually IS a baby, he can do (and probably should do) NOTHING.
One week is one week post period. Which means the egg has not had time to travel down the fallopian tubes, be fertilized and implant. Which is what is necessary for a pregnancy. So one week is NOT pregnant.

and Nextwife i AM NOT TRYING TO BE ARGUMENTATIVE. Just stating what medically is considered one week "pregnant". I have a cool book downstairs that shows the entire pregnancy process starting with the egg being fertilized and traveling.
 
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Ohiogal

Queen Bee
rmet4nzkx said:
Thre could also be DNA questions in the case if one of the parents being a f "Chimera"
Too much CSI lately? The rape episode where DNA said the rapist wasn't the rapist until they took a second sample. :eek:
 

Halls

Member
Actually Ohio, you are just a legal expert, not an OBGYN expert. Neither am I but I have had 4 pg's and 2 miscarriages and and my last pg was considered high risk. When I got pg I was on a trying to concieve plan and know a bit about these things.

fact is all HPT tests are the same. You can take them a few days early and some show and some don't, that is why most have promoted waiting till you or late or 4 weeks after the LMP. It is only the most popular and expensive ones telling people they can take the test up to 4 days before your period is due and likely get a response. I know, I took many many PG testss early and they were so faint I kept taking them everyday early until I got a good solid positive sign or negative sign.

JUst because I said that the time for someone to know if they are really pg or not is 4 weeks after their LMP(which is 2 weeks pg even though they say it is really 4 weeks pg) instead of saying 3 weeks and 4 days does not mean I don't understand reproduction and I think it is so silly and petty for you and rmet to try and correct this.

Your a lawyer right? Do you have clients cause I can't actually believe you sit around on an site like this and look for petty things to tell someone their wrong about. Seriously, you must have no life!
 

fairisfair

Senior Member
Halls said:
Actually Ohio, you are just a legal expert, not an OBGYN expert. Neither am I but I have had 4 pg's and 2 miscarriages and and my last pg was considered high risk. When I got pg I was on a trying to concieve plan and know a bit about these things.

fact is all HPT tests are the same. You can take them a few days early and some show and some don't, that is why most have promoted waiting till you or late or 4 weeks after the LMP. It is only the most popular and expensive ones telling people they can take the test up to 4 days before your period is due and likely get a response. I know, I took many many PG testss early and they were so faint I kept taking them everyday early until I got a good solid positive sign or negative sign.

JUst because I said that the time for someone to know if they are really pg or not is 4 weeks after their LMP(which is 2 weeks pg even though they say it is really 4 weeks pg) instead of saying 3 weeks and 4 days does not mean I don't understand reproduction and I think it is so silly and petty for you and rmet to try and correct this.

Your a lawyer right? Do you have clients cause I can't actually believe you sit around on an site like this and look for petty things to tell someone their wrong about. Seriously, you must have no life!
dang it, halls, now you are gonna make me agree with rmet. Now you are out of line.
 

nextwife

Senior Member
Ohiogal said:
One week is one week post period. Which means the egg has not had time to travel down the fallopian tubes, be fertilized and implant. Which is what is necessary for a pregnancy. So one week is NOT pregnant.

and Nextwife i AM NOT TRYING TO BE ARGUMENTATIVE. Just stating what medically is considered one week "pregnant". I have a cool book downstairs that shows the entire pregnancy process starting with the egg being fertilized and traveling.
Hey, I was STAYING OUT of the "how pregnant is she" debate!

I only pointed out that medical evidence shows that many early pregnancies are spontaneousluy aborted, and often the woman never knows she was pregnant. Thus even if it was detected at one week, viability is uncertain so early on.
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
nextwife said:
Hey, I was STAYING OUT of the "how pregnant is she" debate!

I only pointed out that medical evidence shows that many early pregnancies are spontaneousluy aborted, and often the woman never knows she was pregnant. Thus even if it was detected at one week, viability is uncertain so early on.
AGREED!:D I agree about the spontaneous abortions -- many happen before pregnancy is even known.
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
Halls said:
Actually Ohio, you are just a legal expert, not an OBGYN expert. Neither am I but I have had 4 pg's and 2 miscarriages and and my last pg was considered high risk. When I got pg I was on a trying to concieve plan and know a bit about these things.

You have no clue what I know Halls. Don't start.YOu have no idea what my background in reproduction is or where I have been.

fact is all HPT tests are the same. You can take them a few days early and some show and some don't, that is why most have promoted waiting till you or late or 4 weeks after the LMP. It is only the most popular and expensive ones telling people they can take the test up to 4 days before your period is due and likely get a response. I know, I took many many PG testss early and they were so faint I kept taking them everyday early until I got a good solid positive sign or negative sign.


And I agree that it is four weeks after the LMP when most tests work. And most of the expensive HPTS -- and i did say the expensive ones -- detect as little as 25 HCGs. Some as little as 15 hcg.Which can be detected sooner than that but not when someone is medically considered two weeks pregnant.

JUst because I said that the time for someone to know if they are really pg or not is 4 weeks after their LMP(which is 2 weeks pg even though they say it is really 4 weeks pg) instead of saying 3 weeks and 4 days does not mean I don't understand reproduction and I think it is so silly and petty for you and rmet to try and correct this.

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Your a lawyer right? Do you have clients cause I can't actually believe you sit around on an site like this and look for petty things to tell someone their wrong about. Seriously, you must have no life!
yes I am a lawyer and yes I have clients. You are out of line and have no clue about my life.
 

Halls

Member
Well Ohio, Touche because you seem to assume I didn't know what I'm talking about so it goes both ways. So back off me and I'll back off you? Got it?
 

Halls

Member
fairisfair said:
dang it, halls, now you are gonna make me agree with rmet. Now you are out of line.

oh cause I tell Ohio like it is you are going to jump on a different side? I think for myself and I don't need you on my side. This whole thing is stupid and petty and I'm simply pointing out to those who took a jab at me. If they get offended than they need to remember not to offend or they get it right back in their face!
 

Silverplum

Senior Member
Halls said:
oh cause I tell Ohio like it is you are going to jump on a different side? I think for myself and I don't need you on my side. This whole thing is stupid and petty and I'm simply pointing out to those who took a jab at me. If they get offended than they need to remember not to offend or they get it right back in their face!
No need to be such an obvious beast, Halls. :rolleyes:
 

fairisfair

Senior Member
Halls said:
oh cause I tell Ohio like it is you are going to jump on a different side? I think for myself and I don't need you on my side. This whole thing is stupid and petty and I'm simply pointing out to those who took a jab at me. If they get offended than they need to remember not to offend or they get it right back in their face!
I never offered to be on your side, nor on anyone elses. In fact, I never questioned anyone's comments to you in the first place, I did question those made to next wife. You had no need or right to jump on Ohio, you are losing all credibility. But, please by all means, carry on.
 

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