Guardian Adlitems Report

[KATZLOVER222]

What is the name of your state? FLORIDA
CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH MY 3RD CUSTODY BATTLE. I HAVE HAD RESIDENTIAL CUSTODY FOR THE LAST 8 YRS EVER SINCE THE DIVORCE. (2 CHILDREN) MY EXHUSBAND AND I SPLIT THE COST OF A GUARDIAN ADLITEM AND WHEN I GOT THE REPORT BACK SHE RECOMMENDED BOTH CHILDREN LIVE WITH HIM. THERE WERE NO ABUSE REPORTS OR ANYTHING TO SUBSTANTIATE HER REPORT, ONLY HEARSAY FROM MY EX AND MY MOTHER (WHO I HAVEN'T SEEN IN 5 YRS. AND ESTRANGED FROM) THE JUDGE WOULD NOT DISREGUARD THE REPORT AND TURNED DOWN MY REQUEST FOR A NEW GUARDIAN! NEXT COURT DATE IS FEB. 14TH. WHAT CAN I DO TO GET RID OF THE GUARDIAN ADLITEMS REPORT OR ALL THE LIES THAT ARE IN IT? HELP...

 

[rmet4nzkx]

You agreed to to the GAL. A GAL represents the best interest of the children, not your best interest. What are you not telling us? This sort of thing is based on more than hearsay.

 

[stealth2]

Please - turn off the Caps - it comes off as shouting. Thanks.

As for the GALs report - you also apparently met with him/her. How did that go? And why did Dad petition for custody in the first place?

 

[casa]

What is the name of your state? FLORIDA
CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH MY 3RD CUSTODY BATTLE. I HAVE HAD RESIDENTIAL CUSTODY FOR THE LAST 8 YRS EVER SINCE THE DIVORCE. (2 CHILDREN) MY EXHUSBAND AND I SPLIT THE COST OF A GUARDIAN ADLITEM AND WHEN I GOT THE REPORT BACK SHE RECOMMENDED BOTH CHILDREN LIVE WITH HIM. THERE WERE NO ABUSE REPORTS OR ANYTHING TO SUBSTANTIATE HER REPORT, ONLY HEARSAY FROM MY EX AND MY MOTHER (WHO I HAVEN'T SEEN IN 5 YRS. AND ESTRANGED FROM) THE JUDGE WOULD NOT DISREGUARD THE REPORT AND TURNED DOWN MY REQUEST FOR A NEW GUARDIAN! NEXT COURT DATE IS FEB. 14TH. WHAT CAN I DO TO GET RID OF THE GUARDIAN ADLITEMS REPORT OR ALL THE LIES THAT ARE IN IT? HELP...

Can you prove any of the lies? That would help immensely.

As I said to another poster this morning- Custody isn't always about one parent being 'unfit', but more about which parent (in the eyes of a court) is a better fit for custody.

What were the circumstances of your X filing to change custody? ie; what were his allegations?

It's very difficult to have a GAL removed from a case- but you do always have the right to appeal your case. The best advice I can give you, is that if you don't believe your attorney is fighting for what you want, get another attorney!

 

[rmet4nzkx]

I too have the same CRAP with a GAL, and NO I did not ask for nor did I agree to have one, my former attorney did so without my knowledge or input.

Gal filed his report which is full of outright lies, he spoke a total of 8 people, of those 8 persons he spoke with 4 once, and two twice. 2 he has a personal relationship with (belong to the same brotherhood), of the 4 he spoke to 1 individual once and that was to request a specific document, when that person gave this GAL the procedure to follow in order to obtain the document, GAL never ask this person one question regarding my son just became angry because he would have to file paperwork in order to get the document he wanted. In other words this particular GAL has not got a clue as to what is in the "best interest" of a toad let alone a child, when I first spoke to him by phone, he made the comment to me that "yeah he understands divorce, he had just complete his own and it was messy, she got everything including the kids", I still had an attorney and told he about this conversation and asked to have the GAL removed, she REFUSED, say he was a good guy and it would be fine, tried to get judge to remove him on this bases and was met with the same answer.
yeah report is in favor of my ex, only because of the courts allowing GAL's to file undocumented, reports with LITTLE OR NO true investigations by someone who would actually know what is in the best interest of a child.

There may be a few good GAL's out their but I seriously doubt it!!!

Please don't hijack a thread, if you want to ask a question, start your own thread. You don't even give your state, so there is no way to address your complaint. You are angry because you don't like the results. No you don't have to agree to the appointment of a GAL, most likely that is why your ex asked for one to be appointed because you would not cooperate and why your attorney alowed it because you are not cooperating with them either, so it sounds like a good call. Learn to follow rules and you might get better results.

In OP's case they agreed to it if you read their question instead of hijacking the thread.

 

[stealth2]

I have posted my situtuation so many times it is getting boring to me, proof you say, proof of what that he never spoke nor investigated using all the resourse available yes I do and I submitted them with my response,ex's attorney and GAL just laughed stating the GAL report is all that is needed and no matter what I provide or say it won't matter to the Judge. as far as hiring another attorney it is futile everyone attorney I have approached about taking this case, are willing until I mention, Judge, ex's attorney etc... and their reply is sorry can't help gee this should tell ya something...
appealing hmmmm only if my son can stay with me during the appeal is that possible?

Which part of DO NOT HIJACK A THREAD is difficult to understand? Either resurrect your previous thread, or start another w/the relevant information. But don't make us dig around for it. If your situation is boring to YOU, it's a hundred times more so to us. Your son showed better sense.

 

[casa]

I have posted my situtuation so many times it is getting boring to me, proof you say, proof of what that he never spoke nor investigated using all the resourse available yes I do and I submitted them with my response,ex's attorney and GAL just laughed stating the GAL report is all that is needed and no matter what I provide or say it won't matter to the Judge. as far as hiring another attorney it is futile everyone attorney I have approached about taking this case, are willing until I mention, Judge, ex's attorney etc... and their reply is sorry can't help gee this should tell ya something...
appealing hmmmm only if my son can stay with me during the appeal is that possible?

I wasn't asking YOU if you had proof- I was asking the Original Poster. Keep YOUR threads all in one place, then we can keep all the facts/information together.

 

[rmet4nzkx]

Please quit hijacking threads, that is why we keep asking you to put your posts all in one place, but you can't keep your facts straight can you?

No, everyone needed for the GAL's report is not in Tx, jurisdiction is IL not Tx and it won't be.

Your ex's petitions are valid, your objections are not.

You are the reason no one will represent you, it is not the fault of the GAL's report or jurisdiction.

Your son was not appropriately supervised while on your watch that is why he got into trouble, that is most likely why there is little you can offer against it, appeal if you want, none of that is in your son's best interest.

YOU made this problem.

 

[Gracie3787]

What is the name of your state? FLORIDA
CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH MY 3RD CUSTODY BATTLE. I HAVE HAD RESIDENTIAL CUSTODY FOR THE LAST 8 YRS EVER SINCE THE DIVORCE. (2 CHILDREN) MY EXHUSBAND AND I SPLIT THE COST OF A GUARDIAN ADLITEM AND WHEN I GOT THE REPORT BACK SHE RECOMMENDED BOTH CHILDREN LIVE WITH HIM. THERE WERE NO ABUSE REPORTS OR ANYTHING TO SUBSTANTIATE HER REPORT, ONLY HEARSAY FROM MY EX AND MY MOTHER (WHO I HAVEN'T SEEN IN 5 YRS. AND ESTRANGED FROM) THE JUDGE WOULD NOT DISREGUARD THE REPORT AND TURNED DOWN MY REQUEST FOR A NEW GUARDIAN! NEXT COURT DATE IS FEB. 14TH. WHAT CAN I DO TO GET RID OF THE GUARDIAN ADLITEMS REPORT OR ALL THE LIES THAT ARE IN IT? HELP...

I am in Florida.
10 yrs ago I started taking the classes to become a GAL, although I had to drop out due to my son's illness, I did learn what criteria a GAL uses in making decisions.

A GAL looks at all factors including things like:

Home: Which parent lives in the better home? Example; one lives in a $75,000.00 HOUSE, one lives in a 15 year old MOBILE HOME.

Neighborhood in which parents live- example- one lives in a middle class FAMILY oriented area with schools, other families, etc. nearby. one lives in area with no or little amenties for families, no other families, schools, etc.

Ages of children- how will children be affected by possibly being removed from home, schools, friends, etc?

Which parent appears to be more able and willing to nurture childrens' extracirricular activies and pursuits?

Which parent is more able to provide and NURTURE childrens' relationships with other parent and OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS?

This last one is what may have influenced the GALS decision. You admit that you are estranged from YOUR mother- the childrens' GRANDMOTHER, so it is obvious that you won't be able to nurture your childrens' right to have their Grandmother in thier lives.

Beyond that, as another poster stated- you agreed to the GAL and you have no right to do anything just because the GAL's decisiopn wasn't what you wanted. I hope for your childrens' sakes, that you do everything you can to put their needs ahead of your own.
Gracie

 

[KATZLOVER222]

MY REPLY TO stealth2 - GUARDIAN ADLITEMS REPORT

Please - turn off the Caps - it comes off as shouting. Thanks.

As for the GALs report - you also apparently met with him/her. How did that go? And why did Dad petition for custody in the first place?

You want to know how it went? The GAL only met with me for 25 minutes 1 time and met with my son for 15 minutes 1 time and she was out the door. As for why did the Dad petition for custody in the first place.....He didn't at first. The Dad bought my daughter a car without letting me know first (just pulled up in the driveway with it) and then she came in demanding i put her on my car insurance. I told her I did not buy the car and couldn't afford to get the insurance for her. Because she did not get her way, the next day she and the Dad decided she was going to live with him before changing the Final Order. He basically kidnapped her and then filed for custody with no change in circumstance. I thought the Guardian Adlitem would see through all the crap, but failed miserably. The Guardian Adlitem only met with me, my son, my daughter, the Dad and my mother (whom i haven't seen in 5 yrs) Doesn't sound like she did a thorough job, does it?? The attorney I had at the time said she needed $5000.00 more the day she received the Guardian Adlitems report, on top of the $3,500 i had already paid her, then i had to hire another attorney for $2,500. Sounds like I might have to take this to the Attorney General !!!

 

[KATZLOVER222]

REPLY TO rmet4nzkx - GUARDIAN ADLITEMS REPORT

You agreed to to the GAL. A GAL represents the best interest of the children, not your best interest. What are you not telling us? This sort of thing is based on more than hearsay.

You want to know how it went? The GAL only met with me for 25 minutes 1 time and met with my son for 15 minutes 1 time and she was out the door. As for why did the Dad petition for custody in the first place.....He didn't at first. The Dad bought my daughter a car without letting me know first (just pulled up in the driveway with it) and then she came in demanding i put her on my car insurance. I told her I did not buy the car and couldn't afford to get the insurance for her. Because she did not get her way, the next day she and the Dad decided she was going to live with him before changing the Final Order. He basically kidnapped her and then filed for custody with no change in circumstance. When I filed a Contempt Charge, the Judge would not let me speak at my own Hearing. I thought the Guardian Adlitem would see through all the crap, but failed miserably. The Guardian Adlitem only met with me, my son, my daughter, the Dad and my mother (whom i haven't seen in 5 yrs) Doesn't sound like she did a thorough job, does it?? The attorney I had at the time said she needed $5000.00 more the day she received the Guardian Adlitems report, on top of the $3,500 i had already paid her, then i had to hire another attorney for $2,500.

 

[KATZLOVER222]

I am in Florida.
10 yrs ago I started taking the classes to become a GAL, although I had to drop out due to my son's illness, I did learn what criteria a GAL uses in making decisions.

A GAL looks at all factors including things like:

Home: Which parent lives in the better home? Example; one lives in a $75,000.00 HOUSE, one lives in a 15 year old MOBILE HOME.

Neighborhood in which parents live- example- one lives in a middle class FAMILY oriented area with schools, other families, etc. nearby. one lives in area with no or little amenties for families, no other families, schools, etc.

Ages of children- how will children be affected by possibly being removed from home, schools, friends, etc?

Which parent appears to be more able and willing to nurture childrens' extracirricular activies and pursuits?

Which parent is more able to provide and NURTURE childrens' relationships with other parent and OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS?

This last one is what may have influenced the GALS decision. You admit that you are estranged from YOUR mother- the childrens' GRANDMOTHER, so it is obvious that you won't be able to nurture your childrens' right to have their Grandmother in thier lives.

Beyond that, as another poster stated- you agreed to the GAL and you have no right to do anything just because the GAL's decisiopn wasn't what you wanted. I hope for your childrens' sakes, that you do everything you can to put their needs ahead of your own.
Gracie

I live in the nicer place (3 bedroom , 2 bath) At the time the Dad lived in a Mobil Home and then proceeded to move in my neighboorhood 2 streets over so he would get a favorable review. The GAL only met with me for 25 minutes 1 time and met with my son for 15 minutes 1 time and she was out the door. As for why did the Dad petition for custody in the first place.....He didn't at first. The Dad bought my daughter a car without letting me know first (just pulled up in the driveway with it) and then she came in demanding i put her on my car insurance. I told her I did not buy the car and couldn't afford to get the insurance for her. Because she did not get her way, the next day she and the Dad decided she was going to live with him before changing the Final Order. He basically kidnapped her and then filed for custody with no change in circumstance. I thought the Guardian Adlitem would see through all the crap, but failed miserably. The Guardian Adlitem only met with me, my son, my daughter, the Dad and my mother (whom i haven't seen in 5 yrs) Doesn't sound like she did a thorough job, does it?? The attorney I had at the time said she needed $5000.00 more the day she received the Guardian Adlitems report, on top of the $3,500 i had already paid her, then i had to hire another attorney for $2,500. Oh and by the way, my mother has been arrested, been in a mental institution, lives on Meds and is very unstable.
OOH, and my son and daughter have had mostly straight A's while with me for the last 8 yrs....

 

[KATZLOVER222]

Can you prove any of the lies? That would help immensely.

As I said to another poster this morning- Custody isn't always about one parent being 'unfit', but more about which parent (in the eyes of a court) is a better fit for custody.

What were the circumstances of your X filing to change custody? ie; what were his allegations?

It's very difficult to have a GAL removed from a case- but you do always have the right to appeal your case. The best advice I can give you, is that if you don't believe your attorney is fighting for what you want, get another attorney!

You want to know how it went? The GAL only met with me for 25 minutes 1 time and met with my son for 15 minutes 1 time and she was out the door. As for why did the Dad petition for custody in the first place.....He didn't at first. The Dad bought my daughter a car without letting me know first (just pulled up in the driveway with it) and then she came in demanding i put her on my car insurance. I told her I did not buy the car and couldn't afford to get the insurance for her. Because she did not get her way, the next day she and the Dad decided she was going to live with him before changing the Final Order. He basically kidnapped her and then filed for custody with no change in circumstance. I thought the Guardian Adlitem would see through all the crap, but failed miserably. The Guardian Adlitem only met with me, my son, my daughter, the Dad and my mother (whom i haven't seen in 5 yrs) Doesn't sound like she did a thorough job, does it?? The attorney I had at the time said she needed $5000.00 more the day she received the Guardian Adlitems report, on top of the $3,500 i had already paid her, then i had to hire another attorney for $2,500. OOh, and both kids have had straight A's most of the time for the last 8 yrs while they were with me..

 

[rmet4nzkx]

You need only reply once, we all can read it.

While the GAL may have not spent much time meeting with you, a lot of other things happens elsewhere.

Your ex moving into your neighborhood is a positive move, why is that wrong? It also makes it easier for visiting and maintaining school and other activities, how is that not in the best interest of the children?

It seems like you are more concerned with finding things wrong with your ex doing something right than in looking for ways to parent together. The situation with the car, could have been settled by requiring your daughter to earn money to pay for the insurance. I think what was observed is that while you may have done a ifne job of raising your children, you have a difficult time sharing parenting and may misattribute intentions. It is not uncommon for teenage children to manipulate their parents or to want a change, sometimes allowing it solves the problem faster than fighting it. You need to look at this more objectively and that may be difficult.

 

[jynifer34]

hello everyone, let me introduce myself: my name is jynifer I am from florida, & I am very good freinds with katzlover & caretaker of her son. I have to defend her because God knows she has spent enough on atty's & private investigators & GAL. to no avail. I must inform you that the ex- husband is a complete Psycho. a stalker, & has constantly undermined katzlover as a mother for the past 8 yrs. you see he was involved in an incestuous relationship with his sister, ( psych eval as proof) who gangs up with the grandmother who is an women who walks around neckade in front of her children ( police reports as proof) which is why katzlover was estranged form her in the first place. also , the grandmothers 2 sisters came all the way from Louisianna to testify to these facts in court. Katzlover as I have witnessed is a very loving stable mother, who has sacrificed everything for her children. she is old fashioned & believes in instilling morals & values & faith in God in her children. I have watched a mother with 2 happy healthy children be forced to a nervous breakdown, she has tried everything humanly possible to raise her kids right with no help from the father, & then he comes along as he constantly would & undermind her even to the extent of buying a 15 yr old a car. without her consent or her opinion otherwise, the daughter demanded that she put her on her insurance , which she could not afford, because we are dealing with a dead beat father who would not pay his child support, the grandmother hates the kids dad & the dad hates the grandmother, but everytime he decides to go for custody, he loses, but uses the grandmother as a vice. this time it worked. they spent very little time with the mother & the son, & over 2 hours with the grandmother, dad & daughter. the gals report is full of lies that can be proved & she has yet to get an atty competant enough to do anything other than take her money. she has re-mortgaged her home, took a loan out on her car, lost many days of work going back & forth to court. & there was no change in circumstance. he was in contempt from the get go, but because when she started out, she had no legal rep, so the judge would not let her speak. the atty the father has , oh boy, the father takes him food for payment , because he has a major drug habbit, & is not a successful atty ( have witnesses), doesnt even have his name in the phone book, he is working out of his mobil home in a residential area, city zoning can prove, & I can go on & on, please will someone finally help this woman,she has fought long & hard & they have nothing on her, I have been to court with her, to meetings & took care of her son after school, the son does not want to go to visitation because he is scared, because the dad has abused him in th epast, per cps reports & played with his privates, saying all this i hope I have given you enough information to allow you to be less judgemental towards her so that maybe someone might shed some light on this subject before she loses her son to a pedifile, & a grandmother who also has an arrest record as old as she is, well lets put it this way a definate lady of the night ( police reports) not someone you want to be around a beautiful young lady of 15 who has everything going for her. thanks for your time in reading my response & God Bless