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Help! How do I prove judge SOL has expired?

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marvinmonterosa

Junior Member
What is the name of your state? Texas.
I have a few account monthly statements which show last payment made on account, but credit report's last acitivity is not accurate. Please help me in finding out what documents I need in proving to court/judge that SOL has expired. I've heard there are certified documents I can obtined.
Thank you for any help you can offer.:)
 


seniorjudge

Senior Member
marvinmonterosa said:
What is the name of your state? Texas.
I have a few account monthly statements which show last payment made on account, but credit report's last acitivity is not accurate. Please help me in finding out what documents I need in proving to court/judge that SOL has expired. I've heard there are certified documents I can obtined.
Thank you for any help you can offer.:)
Standard answer on expired SOL and/or validation and/or dispute letters. There are thousands of posts similar to yours on this forum so I have prepared a standard answer.

SOL (Statutes of limitation are DEFENSES to lawsuits; they do NOT provide a method to stop someone from suing you. This defense means when they sue you, you answer with the defense that it is barred by the SOL.)

http://www.bcsalliance.com/y_debt_sol.html

http://www.fair-debt-collection.com/Disputing_Collections/SoL-dispute-letter.html


Validation letter samples you can get at :
www.creditinfocenter.com
and www.creditboards.com

Make sure you ask for VALIDATION (and do not accept verification).


Disputes: You can write a letter of dispute to the three credit reporting agencies.

Go this website to find instructions and samples for how to dispute: http://www.creditinfocenter.com/creditreports/

Sometimes errors are easy to remove and sometimes they stick like glue. It is inexpensive to try and not difficult.

I am NOT a creditor-debtor lawyer; stand by for further help.

I am NOT vouching for the accuracy of these websites!

Debt settlement:

https://forum.freeadvice.com/showthread.php?t=293829
 

Ladynred

Senior Member
Final statements from the creditor that shows when the debt was last paid; cancelled checks that coincide with the billing statements showing last payments made. The date of last activity is not going to help you. What you NEED from the credit bureau, in writing, is the DATE OF FIRST DELINQUENCY - a date that creditors are required by law to report. Unfortunately the CRA's don't see fit to provide that information on our reports, you have to ask them for it.

You claim the affirmative defense of the expired SOL in your Answer to a Complaint and/or in court. You ask the Plaintiff to produce documents thru discovery that will prove or disprove your claim - as well as theirs.

Why people throw away documents that are pertinent to your financial liabilities is beyond me :rolleyes:
 

marvinmonterosa

Junior Member
SOL assistance

Thank you so much for the information you've provided. It has been extremely helpful to me.
I have a second concern which I'm hoping you can help me:

I really wish I had found this forum several months ago; I've learned so much - it's amazing! The reason I'm submitting to you the following ADDITIONAL information to my case is because I've been reviewing the threads (cases) similar to mine in this forum, and I would just like to know if I have a legitimate CHANCE of having my case dismissed by the judge or not. You see, I was served on 12/05/2005, and at the time, I didn't have the financial resources to seek legal advise. So, I called the clerk at the civil court I was assigned and asked what I should do. Plainly, the clerk said to just write a letter telling my side of the story so that's what I did. Being suspiscious of the account information I was being sued over, I did not ADMIT to any of the questions I was being asked to admit or deny, instead I focused on the legitimacy of the information. Again, at that time I didn't know of forums and legal information and even that there was a SOL on my type of debt so I did and wrote the following on the body of the letter:


"This letter is in response to the petition file concerning account # 5491042891329127. Your Honor, because I've lived for over a year and a half at the present address of 3310 Doherty Place in Katy, Texas, I didn't receive the lteer sent on March 16, 2005 by Carnohan Law Offices, which was sen to 20419 Blue Beech Dr in Katy, Texas 77449 (as noted on exhibit c). Furthermore, because I didn't receive the letter, I as not able to formally file a letter disputing the establishment, total amount, and last payment of the account. Therefore, with all respect, I'm asking I be granted a fair opportunity to dispute this debt, since I believe it contains erroneous information.

Your Honor, during the year 2001, my wife, three children, and myself entered into what I believe have been the hardest years of our lives. Because of unemployment reasond during that year, we experienced a lot of loss, including the loss of our home, vehicles, and credit worthiness. Furthermore, because employers heavily use creditoworthiness as a determinant to hire, it has been very diificult to find employment within the financial industry - the industry I for years worked. I allude to that not to make excuses for the inability to resolve any financial debt I owe, but to shed some light on what has transpire during the last four years of our lives; the years since 2001 loss have been spent in a united effort with my wofe to keep our family together and emerge out of all this with successful children. As you can imagine how losses such as this one can have an adverse effect on a a family, I feel we have successfully balanced our work, study, and family life to overcome the tragety. Your Honor, as ia have done what I consider the very best I possibly could to succesfully get my family through this, all I plea is that you give me favor and be merciful to me."

The above is the complete body of the letter. Now, All I'm asking is that you please review the above answer I sent and tell me whether I should proceed and still raise the SOL defense on my trial date (which already has been set), or I've lost my opportunity to raise that defense because of the way I answered. Any and all the information you've already provided it's been priceless. I really do appreciate it! THANK YOU.

Secondly, in texas, the SOL on credit card contracts is 4 years. In my law suit case, and according to account statements I've obtained, the last payment made was in August 2001; the deliquency started to accrue on the credit card bill due 10/30/01. That is, the 10/30/01 payment due was not made and any payments thereafter. Would you help me determine the exact date the plaintiff had to file suit according to SOL. Also, are grace period days considered in determing that time, or only due date matters? Thank you so much.:)
 
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Ladynred

Senior Member
Depending on state law, the SOL begins to run either with the last payment or the 1st delinquency - the date the next payment was due and never paid. I *believe* TX is last payment. Either way, the SOL expired Oct/Nov 2005. IF the lawsuit was FILED before the SOL expired, then they gotcha.. if they filed it AFTER, then you have the SOL as your defense.
 

marvinmonterosa

Junior Member
as you were answering my reply this morning, I've since edited that question. Would you please reivew it and response. Again, thank you for info.:)
 

Ladynred

Senior Member
the last payment made was in August 2001; the deliquency started to accrue on the credit card bill due 10/30/01
No, the SOL started to tick after the last payment was made in August. At the worst, the SOL started when the next payment was missed in September 2001 !

AS for your letter to the judge, the clerk gave you a red herring. That is NOT a proper Answer to a lawsuit. They don't CARE why you stopped paying, what your situation was or anything else. You admitted to the debt in your letter, and that is enough for the judge to give the Plaintiff an immediate summary judgment against you !

Your only answers, done in the PROPER format, should be affirm, deny, or lack sufficient knowledge. Then you list your affirmative defenses, in this case the expired SOL.

Here's how you are SUPPOSED to file an Answer:
http://www.legalhelp.org/public/answering_complaint.php

I suggest you file a proper answer with the court before you time actually runs out or you are screwed.
 

marvinmonterosa

Junior Member
Thank you for your response. I was served on 12/03/05 and I filed the letter w/in the 20 days granted according to citation. I guess what you're saying is that it is too late to submit a proper answer now, right?

Also, what's a summary judgement, if granted by judge?:(
 

seniorjudge

Senior Member
marvinmonterosa said:
Thank you for your response. I was served on 12/03/05 and I filed the letter w/in the 20 days granted according to citation. I guess what you're saying is that it is too late to submit a proper answer now, right?

Also, what's a summary judgement, if granted by judge?:(
File an amended answer and claim stupidity and then point out that you have a valid defense, i.e., the SOL has run.

A summary judgment means that there are no facts in dispute and that whoever asks for the summary judgment should get it because there is nothing for the court to decide.

(That is a real brief and simplified answer.)
 

marvinmonterosa

Junior Member
Again, thank you for all your help!

I will definitely do it right this time. The web site,http://www.legalhelp.org/public/answering_complaint.php, you've provided will definiterly assist me in doing the ammended answer.

I do have other questions, though:

My trial date has been set to 09/25/2006 and a referral to mediation has been ordered; I responded to the citation on 12/27/2005. Based on this information, is it still time to amend my answer? Its acceptancance, is it subject to the judge's approval? And lastly, does the plaintiff have the right to view my answer?

Again, thank you for all your time!
 
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