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Jimsupra
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Hello M.Martin,
To make a long story short 3 questions:
.......I live in a community of 180 homes, and ran by an association that is charging $70 a mo. and the community for the last 5 years is going down hill. Things were promised and not fulfilled for years.
I went down to the corp.Prop management office to inspect and copy our fin. records Copys of by-laws and c-c-cr-s and names and address of community members and was denied access to look at them.Requested names of members, was denied,Told them I would come back the next day they told me it would take 3 weeks and we waited and they would not let me come into the office after this visit because of heated arguments at this visit & over phone to try to get all docs.They would only deal with my wife.
3wks later a lawyer called and said to stop harrassing the Management comp. sent a nasty letter along with limited documents relating to my request.
we were denied copies of By-laws,C-C-rs,
names and address of comm. members and our financial obligation contract.
Given docs were only 4 years of meeting minutes and financial statements of 2 years.
They said they would not give us names because they said i would harrass homeowners.
Anyway's I got an emergency community meeting together by posting signs- because of the problems-I am not currently on the board of directors.
About 35 homeowners showed, we video-taped it, and all present signed a "Removal of Board of Directors petition".
We sent copies to all homeowners by mail and
another 55 mailed them back. some were retrived by foot.
Now at the next Formal Board of Directors meeting in Dec 99, me and my wife attended the meeting in which no homeowners were present, only the 4 board members and one prop. manager member. and we presented all 51% of signatures,90 total on individual petion forms, and I told the board what was going on and accordind to our community by laws, if this was achied that can be dismissed of their duties, all 4 Board members said that no-way you can come in here and make this happen because it hasnt gone through the legal prosess. The board and management co. said that they were not contacted of this
and all signatures were not on their own Company petion of removal form-(ours did have all legal section codes of removal per By-laws and Ca. law pert. to removal of B.O.Ds.)
We left the meeting and then told them to have their Atty. call us.
He called the next day and said he would reveiw the signatures and schedule a recall
meeting and said but all same 51% of community members must attent in person to and sign all over again in order to be valid.
They scheduled a meeting in Jan2000
at an outside communty location in which only 1 Board member showed and 1 homeowner
The Recall was now cancelled and the same board still remains as of today and they never notified any resident as the outcome of recall of reasons of refusal to accept the first signatures. Board remains in tack
today doing nothing as usual.
2 notes of interest:
#1. I requested meeting minute reports of the last 4 mo.s while this is happening and
at the Dec meeting when we gave them the 90 signatures they stated in the report that I said " I was now the acting president and every thing sould now go through me from now on" In which this was never said at any time.
I video tape the whole meeting.
#2 on the Jan 2000 minute meeting
the stated they were doing a background investigation on me.....can you believe this.
To Wrap this up we have been residents 5 years no late payments and had to fight the property management 2 years prior because they felt that they did not have to replace my broken fence in which the fence was on half my prop and all their of common area. After long headaches to resolve which after filing a complaint w/BBB they then paid me after I had to hire some to replace it.After 1 years of dragging feet.
On the not providing me and my wife with Names,By-laws copyies of c-c-rs we wrote ATTY GENERAL IN CA AND ARE WAITING FO THE PROP MANAGERS RESPONSE From them.
Nightmare Huh........
Along with all that several threatning letters from their lawyer stating I cannot have any contact with the board or property managent co ever again only in writing.-Only my wife can in person.
Any Rights violated on this one? Help...Help...Help..........
Thanks all!
To make a long story short 3 questions:
.......I live in a community of 180 homes, and ran by an association that is charging $70 a mo. and the community for the last 5 years is going down hill. Things were promised and not fulfilled for years.
I went down to the corp.Prop management office to inspect and copy our fin. records Copys of by-laws and c-c-cr-s and names and address of community members and was denied access to look at them.Requested names of members, was denied,Told them I would come back the next day they told me it would take 3 weeks and we waited and they would not let me come into the office after this visit because of heated arguments at this visit & over phone to try to get all docs.They would only deal with my wife.
3wks later a lawyer called and said to stop harrassing the Management comp. sent a nasty letter along with limited documents relating to my request.
we were denied copies of By-laws,C-C-rs,
names and address of comm. members and our financial obligation contract.
Given docs were only 4 years of meeting minutes and financial statements of 2 years.
They said they would not give us names because they said i would harrass homeowners.
Anyway's I got an emergency community meeting together by posting signs- because of the problems-I am not currently on the board of directors.
About 35 homeowners showed, we video-taped it, and all present signed a "Removal of Board of Directors petition".
We sent copies to all homeowners by mail and
another 55 mailed them back. some were retrived by foot.
Now at the next Formal Board of Directors meeting in Dec 99, me and my wife attended the meeting in which no homeowners were present, only the 4 board members and one prop. manager member. and we presented all 51% of signatures,90 total on individual petion forms, and I told the board what was going on and accordind to our community by laws, if this was achied that can be dismissed of their duties, all 4 Board members said that no-way you can come in here and make this happen because it hasnt gone through the legal prosess. The board and management co. said that they were not contacted of this
and all signatures were not on their own Company petion of removal form-(ours did have all legal section codes of removal per By-laws and Ca. law pert. to removal of B.O.Ds.)
We left the meeting and then told them to have their Atty. call us.
He called the next day and said he would reveiw the signatures and schedule a recall
meeting and said but all same 51% of community members must attent in person to and sign all over again in order to be valid.
They scheduled a meeting in Jan2000
at an outside communty location in which only 1 Board member showed and 1 homeowner
The Recall was now cancelled and the same board still remains as of today and they never notified any resident as the outcome of recall of reasons of refusal to accept the first signatures. Board remains in tack
today doing nothing as usual.
2 notes of interest:
#1. I requested meeting minute reports of the last 4 mo.s while this is happening and
at the Dec meeting when we gave them the 90 signatures they stated in the report that I said " I was now the acting president and every thing sould now go through me from now on" In which this was never said at any time.
I video tape the whole meeting.
#2 on the Jan 2000 minute meeting
the stated they were doing a background investigation on me.....can you believe this.
To Wrap this up we have been residents 5 years no late payments and had to fight the property management 2 years prior because they felt that they did not have to replace my broken fence in which the fence was on half my prop and all their of common area. After long headaches to resolve which after filing a complaint w/BBB they then paid me after I had to hire some to replace it.After 1 years of dragging feet.
On the not providing me and my wife with Names,By-laws copyies of c-c-rs we wrote ATTY GENERAL IN CA AND ARE WAITING FO THE PROP MANAGERS RESPONSE From them.
Nightmare Huh........
Along with all that several threatning letters from their lawyer stating I cannot have any contact with the board or property managent co ever again only in writing.-Only my wife can in person.
Any Rights violated on this one? Help...Help...Help..........
Thanks all!