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[CJane]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? KS

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/01/23/judge-rules-kan-sperm-donor-owes-child-support/

Other than the obvious, I find this interesting. The Father's attorney's claim is:

‘‘We stand by that contract,’’ Swinnen said. ‘‘The insinuation is offensive, and we are responding vigorously to that. We stand by our story. There was no personal relationship whatsoever between my client and the mother, or the partner of the mother, or the child. Anything the state insinuates is vilifying my client, and I will address it.’’

Is his argument REALLY that the Father shouldn't pay support because there's no relationship between Father and child? Would he make the SAME argument if this was a "traditional" one night stand?

 

[Just Blue]

I allways recommend to others to NEVER view Fox News.

It will give you digestive issues.

 

[TheGeekess]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? KS

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/01/23/judge-rules-kan-sperm-donor-owes-child-support/

Other than the obvious, I find this interesting. The Father's attorney's claim is:

‘‘We stand by that contract,’’ Swinnen said. ‘‘The insinuation is offensive, and we are responding vigorously to that. We stand by our story. There was no personal relationship whatsoever between my client and the mother, or the partner of the mother, or the child. Anything the state insinuates is vilifying my client, and I will address it.’’

Is his argument REALLY that the Father shouldn't pay support because there's no relationship between Father and child? Would he make the SAME argument if this was a "traditional" one night stand?

This will certainly help the doctor-assisted sperm donations as opposed to the DIY that these folks did.

 

[TheGeekess]

I allways recommend to others to NEVER view Fox News.

It will give you digestive issues.

Funny that... I find MSNBC makes me barf.

 

[Just Blue]

Funny that... I find MSNBC makes me barf.

Take a TUMS. Works wonders.

 

[Just Blue]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? KS

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/01/23/judge-rules-kan-sperm-donor-owes-child-support/

Other than the obvious, I find this interesting. The Father's attorney's claim is:

‘‘We stand by that contract,’’ Swinnen said. ‘‘The insinuation is offensive, and we are responding vigorously to that. We stand by our story. There was no personal relationship whatsoever between my client and the mother, or the partner of the mother, or the child. Anything the state insinuates is vilifying my client, and I will address it.’’

Is his argument REALLY that the Father shouldn't pay support because there's no relationship between Father and child? Would he make the SAME argument if this was a "traditional" one night stand?

After reading the story...I agree with you. Dad can now file for visitation with his daughter. And pay support. Guy is a numbnut.

 

[Proserpina]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? KS

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/01/23/judge-rules-kan-sperm-donor-owes-child-support/

Other than the obvious, I find this interesting. The Father's attorney's claim is:

‘‘We stand by that contract,’’ Swinnen said. ‘‘The insinuation is offensive, and we are responding vigorously to that. We stand by our story. There was no personal relationship whatsoever between my client and the mother, or the partner of the mother, or the child. Anything the state insinuates is vilifying my client, and I will address it.’’

Is his argument REALLY that the Father shouldn't pay support because there's no relationship between Father and child? Would he make the SAME argument if this was a "traditional" one night stand?

His argument seems to be that he made some sort of contract with the mother/s stating he would have no parental rights or obligations.

I know where Swinnen is going with the argument though. The statute doesn't explicitly say that a physician's involvement is mandatory, therefore his client should not be penalized for deviating from a law which technically doesn't exclude him in the first place.

I think with 25 pence and a bag of chips, he might find someone somewhere to agree.

 

[CJane]

I allways recommend to others to NEVER view Fox News.

It will give you digestive issues.

Well, I heard the story on NPR this morning, but the fauxnews link is the first one The Google handed me. It's all about balance.

 

[CJane]

His argument seems to be that he made some sort of contract with the mother/s stating he would have no parental rights or obligations.

I know where Swinnen is going with the argument though. The statute doesn't explicitly say that a physician's involvement is mandatory, therefore his client should not be penalized for deviating from a law which technically doesn't exclude him in the first place.

I think with 25 pence and a bag of chips, he might find someone somewhere to agree.

I was looking at the attorney's argument regarding "no relationship". It made me feel like I needed a shower.

 

[Silverplum]

*checks pockets*



I have no pence!!!

 

[Zigner]

*checks pockets*



I have no pence!!!

Does that mean you have a bag of chips in there?

 

[Silverplum]

Does that mean you have a bag of chips in there?

Ate the chips already.

No pence, no chips, no nothin'.

 

[single317dad]

If this argument actually works, there will be a massive increase in the number of "sperm donors" overnight. Fortunately, Dad doesn't have a chance in Hades, for the same reason we can't sell ourselves into slavery.

You can tell people all you want that you're a fireman; it doesn't make you a fireman.

 

[Proserpina]

If this argument actually works, there will be a massive increase in the number of "sperm donors" overnight. Fortunately, Dad doesn't have a chance in Hades, for the same reason we can't sell ourselves into slavery.

You can tell people all you want that you're a fireman; it doesn't make you a fireman.

????

All three parties acknowledged that the intent was for the guy to relinquish all rights and obligations.

A one night stand isn't anywhere near the same thing.

Am I missing something?

 

[Silverplum]

If this argument actually works, there will be a massive increase in the number of "sperm donors" overnight. Fortunately, Dad doesn't have a chance in Hades, for the same reason we can't sell ourselves into slavery.

You can tell people all you want that you're a fireman; it doesn't make you a fireman.

And yet, as Mr. Plum pointed out last night during a discussion of this case, one can legally sell one's eggs or sperm, or rent out one's womb.