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Interstate child support issue

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Artemis_ofthe_Hunt

Senior Member
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? MN and WY

Background info:
Ok the original order is in WY, as I was still technically a resident of WY when we filed for cs.

I was court ordered to supply health insurance, which I was unable to do (was not offered by my part time job, and am now just as of July 1 providing through my new job). Our son was covered through MA after he was born and insurance provided by my at the time employer while I was pregnant.

My ex (never married) never paid a bill for medical, never paid for clothing etc while we were together, since we lived together about six months into my pregnancy.

side note: When we split up, I moved back to MN (about a year and a half ago) and have since established our home here. I have no ties to WY so my understanding is that the presumptive jurisdiction for everything other than cs is in MN now.

Recently after not having heard from my ex for a period of time (Feb 1st to July 8th) he is demanding that I report my wages to the private company which handles the cs cases in the county where we used to live.
I contacted MN since I have been told not to contact them directly (something about letting the agency here do that), to be told that there is nothing that I can do through them, but could file a "Motion for Modification to Child Support" with the court there. I have been unable to figure out whether or not it would be worth the filing money to do this.

Here's why:
When the original order was put in place, they figured that I could be bringing home $1250 a month, which is about half of what I make with overtime now, however when the order was put into place, I wasn't actually working and thus had no expenses.

Without a calculator and without being able to find out whether or not child care is part of the consideration for WY cs amounts, do the seniors think that I should file or wait for him to initiate?

Also, on the financial affidavit for the original order he reported that he nets about twice what I was reported to be able to earn a month, but the updated affidavit request from MN states he grosses nearly double that amount. Is there any way to find out which is correct? What about falsifying documents if they did, can they get into trouble for that? :confused:
 


LdiJ

Senior Member
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? MN and WY

Background info:
Ok the original order is in WY, as I was still technically a resident of WY when we filed for cs.

I was court ordered to supply health insurance, which I was unable to do (was not offered by my part time job, and am now just as of July 1 providing through my new job). Our son was covered through MA after he was born and insurance provided by my at the time employer while I was pregnant.

My ex (never married) never paid a bill for medical, never paid for clothing etc while we were together, since we lived together about six months into my pregnancy.

side note: When we split up, I moved back to MN (about a year and a half ago) and have since established our home here. I have no ties to WY so my understanding is that the presumptive jurisdiction for everything other than cs is in MN now.

Recently after not having heard from my ex for a period of time (Feb 1st to July 8th) he is demanding that I report my wages to the private company which handles the cs cases in the county where we used to live.
I contacted MN since I have been told not to contact them directly (something about letting the agency here do that), to be told that there is nothing that I can do through them, but could file a "Motion for Modification to Child Support" with the court there. I have been unable to figure out whether or not it would be worth the filing money to do this.

Here's why:
When the original order was put in place, they figured that I could be bringing home $1250 a month, which is about half of what I make with overtime now, however when the order was put into place, I wasn't actually working and thus had no expenses.

Without a calculator and without being able to find out whether or not child care is part of the consideration for WY cs amounts, do the seniors think that I should file or wait for him to initiate?

Also, on the financial affidavit for the original order he reported that he nets about twice what I was reported to be able to earn a month, but the updated affidavit request from MN states he grosses nearly double that amount. Is there any way to find out which is correct? What about falsifying documents if they did, can they get into trouble for that? :confused:
Leave it alone until he files something.
 
I've been reading your posts this morning and I understand you are stressing. I understand you want to be proactive in what to expect, but don't do it to the point that you are losing sleep. It's not worth it.

Im not a Lawyer, but until Dad (not GF, she can't) actually serves you with something, try not to worry. You don't have to provide anything to anybody until it is requested formally. Dad telling you to do something is not formal.
As you were told, leave it alone until you are officially requested to provide it.

With regard to the visitation, again don't stress until you are served. Even then, I don't think you have a thing to worry about. The Seniors have given great advice, as usual. Once Dad files, then you go to court and let the Judge know the history and your concerns. This isn't their first rodeo. Once custody/visitation is ordered by the Judge, then you follow it to a "T" You will then have court papers to back you up if Dad does get stupid. Dont let "them" intimidate you.

Like I said, try not to stress.
 

Artemis_ofthe_Hunt

Senior Member
I've been reading your posts this morning and I understand you are stressing. I understand you want to be proactive in what to expect, but don't do it to the point that you are losing sleep. It's not worth it.

Im not a Lawyer, but until Dad (not GF, she can't) actually serves you with something, try not to worry. You don't have to provide anything to anybody until it is requested formally. Dad telling you to do something is not formal.
As you were told, leave it alone until you are officially requested to provide it.

With regard to the visitation, again don't stress until you are served. Even then, I don't think you have a thing to worry about. The Seniors have given great advice, as usual. Once Dad files, then you go to court and let the Judge know the history and your concerns. This isn't their first rodeo. Once custody/visitation is ordered by the Judge, then you follow it to a "T" You will then have court papers to back you up if Dad does get stupid. Dont let "them" intimidate you.

Like I said, try not to stress.
While I understand mentally all that has been said to me, emotionally I am a wreck. Everytime I think that I've gotten over the betrayal and the lies and deceit, "he" (like I've said previously, I am not convinced that its him at all, rather her, flexing her muscles trying to make me dance) emails a new demand or a new threat, never once asking how he is or if he needs anything. So its a question of how much I will allow to happen, but my heart is overriding my head at times.

I don't play the victim well, preferring rather to find out all there is to know about any possible outcome. Which turns me into a paranoid wreck, which in turn gives me indigestion. I know that there are other single parents out there with situations and NCP's far worse than I am dealing with, but pardon me a moment of sheer selfishness....

Quite frankly, I am tired of it all and have written emails to them but have never sent them. I really don't want to start a fight. All of the insight that the responders have given me has helped, both in reassuring me that I really have nothing to worry about and also reassuring me that their games will be seen quite through.

Thanks bunches!:)
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
I have not seen a state that does not consider daycare costs for employment as part of the calculation. Doesn't mean there isn't one but to my knowledge all states include daycare in some way, shape or form.
 

Artemis_ofthe_Hunt

Senior Member
I have not seen a state that does not consider daycare costs for employment as part of the calculation. Doesn't mean there isn't one but to my knowledge all states include daycare in some way, shape or form.
Thank you OG for answering this question. Wyoming doesn't have the same type of online calculator to determine base amounts, they have just a do it yourself equation and it doesn't have anything in the figures for child care.

Another question:
Apparently in order to review the child support case, one or the other of us has to petition the court for modification. My ex is trying to hold my feet to the fire (we currently both have our names on a vehicle loan that I have been trying to refinance, thus far unable to) by withholding signature on the loan until I report my wages to the company which contracts the agency responsibility. I have done this on several occasions to Minnesota since both counties have told me that I cannot contact the other agency. I have reported both insurance and income. He also appears to be withholding child support this month as well. Any suggestions? :mad: BTW I know that he is under no legal obligation to sign the loan papers, I know that I shouldnt' count on cs to pay bills, however at this point its how I am making all of the bills... so, that's about where it stands.
Any help is appreciated!
 

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