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massrenter

Junior Member
What is the name of your state? Massachusetts

I moved from out of state to Massachusetts in September. A friend of mine paid my first and last months rent to the Landlord to secure the property. On the receipt it stated that this was first and last months rent for the property starting on Sept 1st '05. and ending on Aug. 31st '06. My friend and the landlord signed it.
Does this constitute a legal lease? The landlord and I verbally agreed on the phone that I could move in and if for some reason it didnt work out we could reevaluate. As we never signed anymore paperwork I assumed I was on a month to month lease.
When I gave him 30 days notice to move out (notice given mid December to move out end of Jan) he said I would have to continue paying rent until he found someone to move in as the piece of paper signed by my friend constitues a lease. Any information would be appreciated!
 


ENASNI

Senior Member
massrenter said:
What is the name of your state? Massachusetts

I moved from out of state to Massachusetts in September. A friend of mine paid my first and last months rent to the Landlord to secure the property. On the receipt it stated that this was first and last months rent for the property starting on Sept 1st '05. and ending on Aug. 31st '06. My friend and the landlord signed it.
Does this constitute a legal lease? The landlord and I verbally agreed on the phone that I could move in and if for some reason it didnt work out we could reevaluate. As we never signed anymore paperwork I assumed I was on a month to month lease.
When I gave him 30 days notice to move out (notice given mid December to move out end of Jan) he said I would have to continue paying rent until he found someone to move in as the piece of paper signed by my friend constitues a lease. Any information would be appreciated!
We would really need to know what that "piece of paper" says. Lease agreements are worded specifically and differently than "rental agreements"

So... sorry... need more input. Beep beep .

(please disregard that other poster, he will be gone soon.)
 

massrenter

Junior Member
Receipt wording

Its a handwritten piece of paper, dated on the day they both signed it, which was mid August. It states that my friend is paying the landlord 2800 dollars for first and last months rent on the property on behalf on me for the period from September 1st to August 31st.
They both signed it. Between myself and my landlord we have nothing signed and no verbal agreement.
 

ENASNI

Senior Member
massrenter said:
Its a handwritten piece of paper, dated on the day they both signed it, which was mid August. It states that my friend is paying the landlord 2800 dollars for first and last months rent on the property on behalf on me for the period from September 1st to August 31st.
They both signed it. Between myself and my landlord we have nothing signed and no verbal agreement.

I think your friend signed a year lease, and the landlord can hold him liable to it.

Why else would they put a span on it.

If you put the shoe on the other foot and he was kicking you out stating it was month to month and you did not want to leave,
wouldn't you read it that way?

I am stymied, but sloppy paperwork will do that to me. :(
 

BL

Senior Member
Some States require Leases to be written in easy to understand language signed by both LL and tenant .

Look up your State's Landlord tenant Law , and find out about lease laws in your State .
 

massrenter

Junior Member
More information on lease legality

To clarify:
My friend got a receipt from the landlord for the $2800 dollars he paid him for my first and last months rent. The receipt included the information I stated above. From what I can see this is an agreement between the landlord and my friend that the money he is paying him can only be used for the purpose stated on the receipt.
It seems to me that this does not constitute an agreement between myself and the landlord, as Mass law states:
For a lease to be legal, both you and your landlord must sign it.
I referenced this website for my information.

Does this sound accurate or is it still too ambiguous to call?
 

ENASNI

Senior Member
Q**Does this sound accurate or is it still too ambiguous to call?

A**Too ambiguous to call.

THIS Is where I looked and it is still unclear.

How about having the landlord do his search. Put the burden of proof on HIM that this is a legal lease.

What do you think?
 

massrenter

Junior Member
Right now we are both trying to find someone to rent the apartment, he is quite happy to get someone else in there, as am I obviously - this will solve both our problems.
Our difference of opinion arises from the fact that I assumed we defaulted to a tenant-at-will (I gave him 30 days notice to leave in writing) and he assumed the signed piece of paper from my friend WAS the lease, and no more documentation is needed.
I dont feel like going to court over this but if we have to then I want to be prepared. Thanks for the info everyone.
 

ENASNI

Senior Member
massrenter said:
Right now we are both trying to find someone to rent the apartment, he is quite happy to get someone else in there, as am I obviously - this will solve both our problems.
Our difference of opinion arises from the fact that I assumed we defaulted to a tenant-at-will (I gave him 30 days notice to leave in writing) and he assumed the signed piece of paper from my friend WAS the lease, and no more documentation is needed.
I dont feel like going to court over this but if we have to then I want to be prepared. Thanks for the info everyone.
You are welcome. :)

Glad you are working together on this. Make sure your next place (if you were not able to buy) has a nice written agreement, Yah?

Also this should be teaching the landlord a lesson as well.
Good luck.
 

BL

Senior Member
Rental Agreements: According to state consumer protection regulations, a landlord must include the following in a written rental agreement:
The names, addresses and telephone numbers of the owners and other persons who are responsible for the care, maintenance and repair of the property;
The name, address and telephone number of the person authorized to receive notices of violations of law and to accept notice of lawsuit on behalf of the owner;
The amount of the security deposit and disclosure of rights under the Security Deposit Law.
You may want to meet the landlord of a small owner occupied building before you sign the agreement. This tends to foster a good and congenial relationship from the start.
The landlord also must give you an executed copy of this agreement within 30 days of your signing it. (940 CMR 3.17 (3)) You and the landlord may agree verbally to the terms of your tenancy. It is safer, however, to get all terms in writing.


Rental Agreements.

(a) It shall be unfair or deceptive act or practice for an owner to include in any rental agreement any term which:

1. Violates any law;
2. Fails to state clearly and conspicuously in the rental agreement the conditions upon which an automatic increase in rent shall be determined. Provided, however, that nothing contained in 940 CMR 3.17(3)(a)2. shall be deemed to invalidate an otherwise valid tax escalator clause;
3. Contains a penalty clause not in conformity with the provisions of M.G.L. c. 186, § 15B;
4. Contains a tax escalator clause not in conformity with the provisions of M.G.L. c. 186, § 15C;

(b) It shall be an unfair or deceptive practice for an owner to enter into a written rental agreement which fails to state fully and conspicuously, in simple and readily understandable language:

1. The names, addresses, and telephone numbers of the owner, and any other person who is responsible for the care, maintenance and repair of the property;
2. The name, address, and telephone number of the person authorized to receive notices of violations of law and to accept service of process on behalf of the owner;
3. The amount of the security deposit, if any; and that the owner must hold the security deposit in a separate, interest-bearing account and give to the tenant a receipt and notice of the bank and account number; that the owner must pay interest, at the end of each year of the tenancy, if the security deposit is held for one year or longer from the commencement of the tenancy; that the owner must submit to the tenant a separate written statement of the present condition of the premises, as required by law, and that, if the tenant disagrees with the owner's statement of condition, he/she must attach a separate list of any damage existing in the premises and return the statement to the owner; that the owner must, within thirty days after the end of the tenancy, return to the tenant the security deposit, with interest, less lawful deductions as provided in M.G.L. c. 186, § 15B; that if the owner deducts for damage to the premises, the owner shall provide to the tenant, an itemized list of such damage, and written evidence indicating the actual or estimated cost of repairs necessary to correct such damage; that no amount shall be deducted from the security deposit for any damage which was listed in the separate written statement of present condition or any damage listed in any separate list submitted by the tenant and signed by the owner or his agent; that, if the owner transfers the tenant's dwelling unit, the owner shall transfer the security deposit, with any accrued interest, to the owner's successor in interest for the benefit of the tenant.

(c) It shall be unfair and deceptive practice for an owner to fail to give the tenant an executed copy of any written rental agreement within 30 days of obtaining the signature of the tenant thereon.
 
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massrenter

Junior Member
Yeah this LL wasnt too keen on doing paperwork. All the utilities stayed in his name, I got photocopied versions of utilities usually a month after they were due. They also list Apt 1 & 2 as the location for the bills!
They were never that high and were around what I would expect to pay, so I didnt mind paying them. This was my first experience living in an owner occupied building and I will be extremely cautious before I ever do it again.
I am now living in a corporate apartment complex, I have enough paperwork to last me a lifetime, but at least I know where I stand and can plan accordingly.
 

HomeGuru

Senior Member
massrenter said:
Yeah this LL wasnt too keen on doing paperwork. All the utilities stayed in his name, I got photocopied versions of utilities usually a month after they were due. They also list Apt 1 & 2 as the location for the bills!
They were never that high and were around what I would expect to pay, so I didnt mind paying them. This was my first experience living in an owner occupied building and I will be extremely cautious before I ever do it again.
I am now living in a corporate apartment complex, I have enough paperwork to last me a lifetime, but at least I know where I stand and can plan accordingly.

**A: next time don't be idiots.....
 

massrenter

Junior Member
To HomeGuru:

From reading some of your responses around the site, this is a pretty typical one from you. Dont bother responding if you are not going to contribute anything.
 

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