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Is taking a stroll a crime??

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JJW

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Just when has walking or jogging become taboo? Was there some new law passed, or new supreme case that permits curfews on certain activities?
Up until about 5 years ago, I could go about taking a leisurely stroll or jog around the neighboorhood with little notice from the police.
Now the cops treat what I am do as abhorrent. First they give warnings, such blowing in the patrol car loudspeaker, or tapping their lights. And if that fails, they finally stop me on reasonable suspicion>>>what they term as not having a good reason for doing what I am doing.
What is this country comming too?
 


I AM ALWAYS LIABLE

Senior Member
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JJW:
Just when has walking or jogging become taboo? Was there some new law passed, or new supreme case that permits curfews on certain activities?
Up until about 5 years ago, I could go about taking a leisurely stroll or jog around the neighboorhood with little notice from the police.
Now the cops treat what I am do as abhorrent. First they give warnings, such blowing in the patrol car loudspeaker, or tapping their lights. And if that fails, they finally stop me on reasonable suspicion>>>what they term as not having a good reason for doing what I am doing.
What is this country comming too?
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My response:

And where is this happening - State and City? Are they the same officers? What have they said to you?

IAAL



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JJW

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I can easily name several states and cities. I have moved 4 times in 5 years, plus I travel out of town several times a year----nothing abnormal, really.
And what questions do they ask? We have had a lot of crime.....what are you doing?.....where are you going?
But I am not the only one. I have heard of others, like bicyclist, skateboarders, rollerbladers, getting hassled too.
And yes, they are the same set of cops, so I suspect a sub-culture.
Would you happen to know of any drastic changes in the past few years, such as a supreme court ruling?

 

I AM ALWAYS LIABLE

Senior Member
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JJW:
I can easily name several states and cities. I have moved 4 times in 5 years, plus I travel out of town several times a year----nothing abnormal, really.
And what questions do they ask? We have had a lot of crime.....what are you doing?.....where are you going?
But I am not the only one. I have heard of others, like bicyclist, skateboarders, rollerbladers, getting hassled too.
And yes, they are the same set of cops, so I suspect a sub-culture.
Would you happen to know of any drastic changes in the past few years, such as a supreme court ruling?

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My response:

I would really like to know which States you are talking about. Even loitering laws have come under Constitutional attack; and no, there are no U.S. Supreme Court cases that prohibit those activities. In fact, you can turn it around on the cop, by asking if you are suspected of committing a crime, and if they say no, turn and walk away. If it persists by certain officers, or a certain police agency, you may want to see an attorney about filing an injunction.

IAAL



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JJW

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&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;My response:

I would really like to know which States you are talking about.&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;

Fla,Al,Tx,Ms,la. At the momment, I am briefly living in Alabama.

&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;Even loitering laws have come under Constitutional attack; and no, there are no U.S. Supreme Court cases that prohibit those activities.&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;

That's a relief. I have been told differently by an officer, that the courts were favoring them.

&lt;&lt;&lt;In fact, you can turn it around on the cop, by asking if you are suspected of committing a crime, and if they say no, turn and walk away.&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;

Ok, yes, they told me they suspected me of something. They say [the usual] they have a lot of robberies, and insist on seeing my license, to do a background check.
And a couple of times I asked what if I refused, and they replied I would go to jail if I didn't ID myself.

&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;If it persists by certain officers, or a certain police agency, you may want to see an attorney about filing an injunction.

IAAL&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;

Ok, I'll give it a try. Do I need to get any specific info?

 

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