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Benowulf

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I am from Massachussets. My girlfriend has a 4 1/2 year old son and I am very frustrated by her current situation.

She has been the boy's primary caregiver until he was about 4, at which time the bio father decided he wanted a part of the boy's life. He brought his case to court and won visitation rights, but also shot himself in the foot because at the same time the court said he needed to be paying child support (both for the past, and going forward).

As an aside, up until this time the mother had made an effort to get the bio-father involved in the boy's life, but he had been less than cooperative up until this time.

Firstly, the bio-father is in delinquency on some of the child support payments, which doesn't really concern me, but may be useful information for answering my ultimate question.

Basically, the father is a horrible caregiver and I contend that his presence is quite detrimental to the boy's mental health. The boy stayed with him for 1 week (that is the longest stretch) and came back having gained several pounds, with his hair long enough to hang in his eyes (he's 4 1/2 yrs old). This indicates that the bio-dad does not tend to his hygiene as well as he should. Also, I have read some of the emails that he sends to my girlfriend and he truly suffers from some degree of psychosis. Purely by definition of the word, the bio-father is psychotic. He suffers from delusions and brings to bear the most ludicrous and unreal personal accusations against the boy's mother. He believes that he is the only one who gives proper care to the boy, who he refers to constantly as "MY SON" He accuses the mother (my girlfriend) of drinking and chasing men, without a concern for her son's well being. From direct experience, I can say that these claims have no bearing on reality whatsoever. She is a caring mother, who sets appropriate limits on her son, and who buys only organic/all natural food for the boy and sees to all of his needs appropriately.

I can only imagine what the bio-father tells the boy about the mother, and the psychological harm done to the boy as a result will be immeasurable. I am frustrated beyond belief because the courts seem to be living in the dark ages of psychology. The father's lawyer had a psychologist come in and say, "children need to have a relationship with both bio-parents in order to be well adjusted." This is an antiquated and completely irrational idea. That then would say that all adopted children cannot be well adjusted.

Clearly what is essential is to have positive, caring role models of both genders in the child's life. The bio-father does NOT fit that role. Is there ANY legal recourse that the mother has in this type of scenario?

Thank You.
 


Silverplum

Senior Member
Benowulf said:
I am from Massachussets. My girlfriend has a 4 1/2 year old son and I am very frustrated by her current situation.

She has been the boy's primary caregiver until he was about 4, at which time the bio father decided he wanted a part of the boy's life. He brought his case to court and won visitation rights, but also shot himself in the foot because at the same time the court said he needed to be paying child support (both for the past, and going forward).

As an aside, up until this time the mother had made an effort to get the bio-father involved in the boy's life, but he had been less than cooperative up until this time.

Firstly, the bio-father is in delinquency on some of the child support payments, which doesn't really concern me, but may be useful information for answering my ultimate question.

Basically, the father is a horrible caregiver and I contend that his presence is quite detrimental to the boy's mental health. The boy stayed with him for 1 week (that is the longest stretch) and came back having gained several pounds, with his hair long enough to hang in his eyes (he's 4 1/2 yrs old). This indicates that the bio-dad does not tend to his hygiene as well as he should. .
I just have a couple of comments, which stem from the statements I've bolded from your post.

1. Not your business. Not your kid. Did you notice the dad won visitation rights in court?

2. If Dad is behind on CS, the remedy is for MOM to file for contempt. Garnishment. Etc.

3. If the kid was at Dad's for one week, then how on earth did his hair grow so very long that it was in his eyes -- hair that long came from Mom's house. And who cares about a freaking hair cut? Overcontrolling boyfriend does, that's clear.
 

fairisfair

Senior Member
First of all, you need to back off, you are nothing to this child, not even a step parent.

I seriously doubt that this child became obese and/or blinded by hair in a weeks time. Nothing that you have said indicates any grounds for interference. Just because dad's parenting skills may be different than the mother's is no cause for alarm. Of course he refers to the boy as his son, that is what he is.
 

fairisfair

Senior Member
Silverplum said:
And I was just about to post this:

Fairisfair, meet Silverplum.
Silverplum, meet Fairisfair!
:D
OMG, I think. . . . yes, I am pretty sure . . . . this must mean, we AGREED on something??:eek:
 

stealth2

Under the Radar Member
Benowulf said:
The boy stayed with him for 1 week (that is the longest stretch) and came back having gained several pounds,
Have you heard of "growth spurts"? They are often preceded by a rapid weight increase.

Benowulf said:
with his hair long enough to hang in his eyes (he's 4 1/2 yrs old).
Uuuuhh... kiddo's hair did not grow THAT long w/o being well on its way while at Mommy's.

Benowulf said:
This indicates that the bio-dad does not tend to his hygiene as well as he should.
You give no details/proof as to this conclusion.

Benowulf said:
He believes that he is the only one who gives proper care to the boy,
Well, given Mommy sends the child with his hair ready to grow down over his eyes......

Benowulf said:
he refers to constantly as "MY SON"
And Mommy ALWAYS refers to the boy as "OUR son", referencing the father, right? :rolleyes:

Benowulf said:
He accuses the mother (my girlfriend) of drinking and chasing men, without a concern for her son's well being.
And... where did Mommy meet you, pray tell?

Benowulf said:
She is a caring mother, who sets appropriate limits on her son, and who buys only organic/all natural food for the boy and sees to all of his needs appropriately.
That in and of itself indicates issues with Mommy (tongue in cheek).

Butt out, dude. It ain't your kid.
 

Silverplum

Senior Member
This guy reminds me very much of a guy from another site. Except that the other guy married the woman, AFTER a thousand posts about how horrible Dad was, and wondering how to get rid of him.

Now he pops in now and again to complain about how horrible Dad is. Still wondering how to get rid of him. :rolleyes:
 

Benowulf

Junior Member
to silver plum and fair is fair

Thank you for being thoroughly unhelpful. Your lack of knowledge about the situation came through loud and clear. Excellent.

-I have kept myself thoroughly uninvolved in this situation. The mother asks me for advice in fact, and I tell her that she needs to just do what she thinks is best. Here, I am simply looking for other similar experiences that may shine some light on the situation.

-You're right, the boy did not become "obese" and nor did his hair become so much longer than it had been before he went to his father's house. Way to take that one point and use it to dismiss my whole post.

-Thanks for not at all touching upon the other concerns I raised, as those were the heart of my post. I'm grateful that you missed my point completely and simply used my post as a sounding wall against which to hear your own opinion.

Cheers.
 

Silverplum

Senior Member
Benowulf said:
Thank you for being thoroughly unhelpful. Your lack of knowledge about the situation came through loud and clear. Excellent.

-I have kept myself thoroughly uninvolved in this situation. The mother asks me for advice in fact, and I tell her that she needs to just do what she thinks is best. Here, I am simply looking for other similar experiences that may shine some light on the situation.

-You're right, the boy did not become "obese" and nor did his hair become so much longer than it had been before he went to his father's house. Way to take that one point and use it to dismiss my whole post.

-Thanks for not at all touching upon the other concerns I raised, as those were the heart of my post. I'm grateful that you missed my point completely and simply used my post as a sounding wall against which to hear your own opinion.
Cheers.
You're welcome, dude.

And, way to get all wound up about something that has naught to do with you. :rolleyes:
 

fairisfair

Senior Member
Benowulf said:
Thank you for being thoroughly unhelpful. Your lack of knowledge about the situation came through loud and clear. Excellent.

-I have kept myself thoroughly uninvolved in this situation. The mother asks me for advice in fact, and I tell her that she needs to just do what she thinks is best. Here, I am simply looking for other similar experiences that may shine some light on the situation.

-You're right, the boy did not become "obese" and nor did his hair become so much longer than it had been before he went to his father's house. Way to take that one point and use it to dismiss my whole post.

-Thanks for not at all touching upon the other concerns I raised, as those were the heart of my post. I'm grateful that you missed my point completely and simply used my post as a sounding wall against which to hear your own opinion.

Cheers.
you're welcome! Tell her to petition for a modification of visitation, she has basically no chance of getting it, but hey that is the answer you are really looking for isn't it?
 

Benowulf

Junior Member
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You want to know, stealth2, where the mother met me? We attended Yoga classes together.

You want to know how the mother refers to the boy in emails to the father? By his rightful name.

I apologize. You're all right about one thing, and that is that I should not be in this forum. I am looking for a community that can offer helpful advice to one in my situation, not a community that will tear me down simply for asking.

Everyone says to "butt out," whereas nobody has any idea how involved in the true situation I am. I do not talk to the father, nor do I talk to the son about the father except when he asks, and then only with the utmost courtesy.

Thanks again to everyone for your flaming egos.
 

Silverplum

Senior Member
Benowulf said:
Thank you for being thoroughly unhelpful. Your lack of knowledge about the situation came through loud and clear. Excellent.

-I have kept myself thoroughly uninvolved in this situation. The mother asks me for advice in fact, and I tell her that she needs to just do what she thinks is best. Here, I am simply looking for other similar experiences that may shine some light on the situation.

-You're right, the boy did not become "obese" and nor did his hair become so much longer than it had been before he went to his father's house. Way to take that one point and use it to dismiss my whole post.

-Thanks for not at all touching upon the other concerns I raised, as those were the heart of my post. I'm grateful that you missed my point completely and simply used my post as a sounding wall against which to hear your own opinion.
Cheers.
Ya know, really, I ought to take this post apart and quote each segment and rip him a new one, but I'm just not in the mood this morning.

But really, boyfriend, I do have to make one more comment on your babyish post:
YOUR writing shows YOUR lack of understanding. In more ways than one.

For instance, the FA rules require you to SEARCH for knowledge on this site, on your own. You didn't do that, it's clear.

For another, you do not understand that, legally, YOU are NOBODY. Get it? As one of my faves likes to say, "Zip, zero, nada, zilch." This means, boytoy, that you have no legal right to even ask these questions. It also means that if your girltoy had any gumption, she'd be posting about her problems. Not you.

That's enough for now. Go digest, grasshopper.
 
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