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dddunit

Member
What is the name of your state? california

Is this liquidative damage clause valid?
"Notwithstanding the previous paragraph, if Employee breaches this Agreement by choosing to leave voluntarily prior to one year from the date of the official signature of this contract, the parties agree that it will cause a disruption in the business operations of Employer, who will have to make arrangements for a replacement, and that therefore, the parties agree that such breach by Employee shall incur a liquidated damage on the part of Employee of twenty thousand dollars ($20,000), plus attorney’s fees and costs if an enforcement action is necessary, payable to Employer as a reasonable calculation of the actual damages incurred by Employer to deal with the disruption.
Initials Employee __ Employer __"

I started my physician job 3/1/18. My employer didnt provide a written contract until 7/2018 despite inquiring multiple times. It wasnt until 9/2018 the contract was signed after requesting revisions. Initially the liquidative damages were set at $60,000. I stated I didnt want this clause. Then he said he couldnt do the contract if I didnt include it. I said perhaps 20k would be better but I still prefer not to have this clause.
 


eerelations

Senior Member
Are you an IC or an employee?

If you're an IC, then the contract should be referring to you as such, and not as an employee. However, that's a minor issue and doesn't affect what you're asking about. If you're an IC, this clause is legal and enforceable.

If you're en employee, it is legal to require you to sign this contract. Whether or not it's enforceable is something my Esteemed Colleagues will weigh in upon.
 

dddunit

Member
employee.
I am just wondering if this is more of a penalty if I left early as the stated cost seems arbitrary and with the circumstances surrounding it.
 

PayrollHRGuy

Senior Member
Without knowing more details it is impossible to know if they would be successful in court but you not only signed the agreement, you negotiated it. That would point towards your understanding it was there.
 

dddunit

Member
I thought if classified as a penalty it is unenforceable in California

what other details would I need to provide? happy to provide.

Does the circumstance of the timing of when the written contract was finally provided after starting the job and the employee/employer bargaining situation have any affect?
 

PayrollHRGuy

Senior Member
That is the problem. The details need would include reading the contract and that is beyond the scope of this forum.

As Zigner just posted this isn't a penalty.

With 20K on the line I'd have a lawyer look at it.
 

adjusterjack

Senior Member
Does the circumstance of the timing of when the written contract was finally provided after starting the job and the employee/employer bargaining situation have any affect?
I think not. You are in a profession where your potential earnings are in the hundreds of thousands per year. The practice that employs you makes a large investment in you and it could be quite costly if you leave.

You're not the typical worker bee at the mercy of the boss. You're in a profession where contracts are the norm. You negotiated the contract and reduced the liquidated damages amount and accepted the result. I think you are stuck with it until September.

Lesson for today Doc: Don't take the job without a contract. If you don't like the contract, don't take the job.
 

dddunit

Member
what if the employer breached parts of the contract and was proven? would that void this clause?

thanks for the input
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
what if the employer breached parts of the contract and was proven? would that void this clause?

thanks for the input
Without a full review of the contract, it's impossible for us to say. Contract review is beyond the scope of this (or any) internet forum. You should speak with an employment law attorney if you wish to have the full contract reviewed.
 

quincy

Senior Member
what if the employer breached parts of the contract and was proven? would that void this clause?

thanks for the input
If the amount stated as liquidated damages is a reasonable estimate of the losses that would be suffered by the employer should the contract be breached, it is likely to be enforceable.

Courts in California have in the past "blue-penciled" illegal or unenforceable contract clauses but held the rest of the contract terms enforceable.

If either party breaches any of the terms of the contract, it will be up to a court to decide what happens.

I agree with Zigner. You will want the contract personally reviewed in its entirety by an attorney licensed to practice in your jurisdiction. A single clause or provision pulled from a contract cannot be adequately or accurately analyzed on its own.

We do not do contract reviews on this forum.
 

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