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gotmyown3

Member
What is the name of your state? AL

Ok, I've been here before. My husband was given custody of his daughter by MS order. She has been with us since July 2006. Her mother's new hsuband was abusive.

My stepdaughter has been "acting out". We tried to put her in counseling but insurance wouldn't pay and her mother refused to pay half. We had to pull her out. She has taken a knife to our sofa, burned our carpet, tried to set fire to our back deck, stolen $250 from us, stole a cell phone from a girl at school, refused to do her homework, lied to us, and finally ran away from home. We found her and she refused to ge tin our vehicle. She started screaming "stop beating me" and running up the road. No one had touched her! The cops were called. They told her to "stop lying" as there was not a mark on her. She still refused to get in the car and said she'd just run away again and live on the street as a prostitute and still claimed that my husband had punched her in the face. We told the cops to call DHR and DHR told her that they did not believe her but made us sign a "safety plan" saying we would not physically discipline her. Anyway, she tried to run away again the next morning and my husband caught her. He admitted her into a hospital for psychiatric help and the therapist there told both of us that she was "a pro at manipulation, that she was a con artist, and that she thought we were too strict on her and she was 13 and should be able to party with her friends and she would do what ever she had to do to get her way".

My husband called his ex and told her what was going on. My husband filed charges against his daughter so that they would turn her over to DYS and we could get her into a treatment facility for troubled teens. Her mother wants custody, refuses to believe that the child stole money or was prepared to have my husband put in jail when he had done nothing, and refuses to believe that the kid needs help. My husband said fine, he'd give her custody on the condition that she enroll the child in therapy immediately and that he be provided with proof and he'd even pay half. Of course that's a no. She needs help, but at this point, my husband is ready to just let her go back to her mother. We are from rich and the treatment facility is expensive.

Any suggestions?
 


mommyof4

Senior Member
My husband filed charges against his daughter so that they would turn her over to DYS and we could get her into a treatment facility for troubled teens.
Follow through.

If Mom wants custody, she can sue for it.
 

TheGeekess

Keeper of the Kraken
Have your husband looked into committing her to the State Department of Mental Health? Sounds like she's a danger to herself and others to me.... :eek:
 

Humusluvr

Senior Member
What is the name of your state? AL

Ok, I've been here before. My husband was given custody of his daughter by MS order. She has been with us since July 2006. Her mother's new hsuband was abusive.

My stepdaughter has been "acting out". We tried to put her in counseling but insurance wouldn't pay and her mother refused to pay half. We had to pull her out. She has taken a knife to our sofa, burned our carpet, tried to set fire to our back deck, stolen $250 from us, stole a cell phone from a girl at school, refused to do her homework, lied to us, and finally ran away from home. We found her and she refused to ge tin our vehicle. She started screaming "stop beating me" and running up the road. No one had touched her! The cops were called. They told her to "stop lying" as there was not a mark on her. She still refused to get in the car and said she'd just run away again and live on the street as a prostitute and still claimed that my husband had punched her in the face. We told the cops to call DHR and DHR told her that they did not believe her but made us sign a "safety plan" saying we would not physically discipline her. Anyway, she tried to run away again the next morning and my husband caught her. He admitted her into a hospital for psychiatric help and the therapist there told both of us that she was "a pro at manipulation, that she was a con artist, and that she thought we were too strict on her and she was 13 and should be able to party with her friends and she would do what ever she had to do to get her way".

My husband called his ex and told her what was going on. My husband filed charges against his daughter so that they would turn her over to DYS and we could get her into a treatment facility for troubled teens. Her mother wants custody, refuses to believe that the child stole money or was prepared to have my husband put in jail when he had done nothing, and refuses to believe that the kid needs help. My husband said fine, he'd give her custody on the condition that she enroll the child in therapy immediately and that he be provided with proof and he'd even pay half. Of course that's a no. She needs help, but at this point, my husband is ready to just let her go back to her mother. We are from rich and the treatment facility is expensive.

Any suggestions?
"Garden of Eden," Anyone? And leg shackles.
 

Mommy711

Member
What is the name of your state? AL

Ok, I've been here before. My husband was given custody of his daughter by MS order. She has been with us since July 2006. Her mother's new hsuband was abusive.

My stepdaughter has been "acting out". We tried to put her in counseling but insurance wouldn't pay and her mother refused to pay half. We had to pull her out. She has taken a knife to our sofa, burned our carpet, tried to set fire to our back deck, stolen $250 from us, stole a cell phone from a girl at school, refused to do her homework, lied to us, and finally ran away from home. We found her and she refused to ge tin our vehicle. She started screaming "stop beating me" and running up the road. No one had touched her! The cops were called. They told her to "stop lying" as there was not a mark on her. She still refused to get in the car and said she'd just run away again and live on the street as a prostitute and still claimed that my husband had punched her in the face. We told the cops to call DHR and DHR told her that they did not believe her but made us sign a "safety plan" saying we would not physically discipline her. Anyway, she tried to run away again the next morning and my husband caught her. He admitted her into a hospital for psychiatric help and the therapist there told both of us that she was "a pro at manipulation, that she was a con artist, and that she thought we were too strict on her and she was 13 and should be able to party with her friends and she would do what ever she had to do to get her way".

My husband called his ex and told her what was going on. My husband filed charges against his daughter so that they would turn her over to DYS and we could get her into a treatment facility for troubled teens. Her mother wants custody, refuses to believe that the child stole money or was prepared to have my husband put in jail when he had done nothing, and refuses to believe that the kid needs help. My husband said fine, he'd give her custody on the condition that she enroll the child in therapy immediately and that he be provided with proof and he'd even pay half. Of course that's a no. She needs help, but at this point, my husband is ready to just let her go back to her mother. We are from rich and the treatment facility is expensive.

Any suggestions?
If Mom's new husband was the reason that your stepdaughter lives with you why would dad even consider giving mom custody? Did dad file for custody, or did Mom just give her up?

Your stepdaughter needs to remain in the treatment center until they feel taht she is ready to leave. It is painful for the parents, and the child will continue to manipulate if she knows how hard it is on her parents. Your husband needs to follow thrugh with this. He should not make deals with mom. It is his daughter's future.

Hopefully the treatment center will provide testing and appropriate therapy and possibly medication.
 

Just Blue

Senior Member
Are we forgetting that this girl was abused? She needs help...Not to be returned to the mother who allowed her hubby to abuse her and not the usual punishment for out of control teens.

Isa...I am not directing my post just at you...but at this idea in general.:)
 
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Humusluvr

Senior Member
Are we forgetting that this girl was abused? She needs help...Not to be returned to the mother who allowed her hubby to abuse her and not the usual punishment for out of control teens.
I agree, she does need some help - counseling, maybe boot camp. It was a suggestion with the "garden of Eden" if the girl was not too far lost. It sounded from the original post that the girl was being manipulative, sassy, and just making threats. She could absolutely be brought back with some "tough love."

And there is no way this girl should be returned. Sure, its easy to just "send her back to mom," because she's out of control, but that accomplishes ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Send her back to the abuser? To no rules? May as well feed her to the wolves.

Now is the time to step up, grow a few pairs, and do the hard thing. Love this little girl, and get her back on the right path.
 

Isis1

Senior Member
Are we forgetting that this girl was abused? She needs help...Not to be returned to the mother who allowed her hubby to abuse her and not the usual punishment for out of control teens.

Isa...I am not directing my post just at you...but at this idea in general.:)
the post was more sarcasm anyway :eek:.
the question still stands out on how this child was abused. and for how long. therapy would have been helpful if the child had remained. it doesn't work overnight. maybe getting a second job might have been in order. having the girl put on meds, won't solve the long term problem. she really needs to face her anger issues. and mom isnt (from what stepmom states) willing to help the situation.
 

gotmyown3

Member
She was tested for drugs and std (found out she'd been skipping school and having sex with various boys. Of course, the school didn't notify us when she failed to show for classes. We found this out after she ran away.) While her step father was abusive, she has admitted that she lied about a lot of it, and caused the injuries we saw on her to herself, so that we'd sue for custody and she'd have it easier here. She said that our house is "a f******* prison and she doesn't want to have rules. " Her mother is saying that it's because my husband is not "a good dad" and that she is "the only one who really knows how to handle her". I say that this was probably happening with them before my husband won custody and no one ever told us because they figured she was our problem now. The insurance company said that they won't cover any more of the hospital stay because she's just a "bad kid" but that she wasn't sick and they don't cover her kind of problem. The treatment facility we found is $5400.00 per month. IF we can get a loan, the payments will be $600.00 a month and my husband has asked his ex to pay one half. Nope. As far as working a second job, it's just not an option at this time.
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
She was tested for drugs and std (found out she'd been skipping school and having sex with various boys. Of course, the school didn't notify us when she failed to show for classes. We found this out after she ran away.) While her step father was abusive, she has admitted that she lied about a lot of it, and caused the injuries we saw on her to herself, so that we'd sue for custody and she'd have it easier here. She said that our house is "a f******* prison and she doesn't want to have rules. " Her mother is saying that it's because my husband is not "a good dad" and that she is "the only one who really knows how to handle her". I say that this was probably happening with them before my husband won custody and no one ever told us because they figured she was our problem now. The insurance company said that they won't cover any more of the hospital stay because she's just a "bad kid" but that she wasn't sick and they don't cover her kind of problem. The treatment facility we found is $5400.00 per month. IF we can get a loan, the payments will be $600.00 a month and my husband has asked his ex to pay one half. Nope. As far as working a second job, it's just not an option at this time.
Time to decide if the child is worth more than the loan. And quite frankly I know the answer.
The child goes to treatment, dad goes to court to get a court order mandating that mother pay half the payment of the treatment. The other alternative is to turn this child over to the state and let the state deal with her and pay for her treatment.
 

TheGeekess

Keeper of the Kraken
Time to decide if the child is worth more than the loan. And quite frankly I know the answer.
The child goes to treatment, dad goes to court to get a court order mandating that mother pay half the payment of the treatment. The other alternative is to turn this child over to the state and let the state deal with her and pay for her treatment.
There are also the Sheriff's Ranches (the Girls' Ranch is in Springville, in St. Clair Co.), or the Big Oak Ranch (I think it used to be in Shelby County, but they may have moved it to Etowah Co.). There are resources in the state of Alabama, you'll just have to do your research to find them.

The Big Oak Ranch is the one in Springville. http://www.bigoak.org/girlsranch.asp for more information on it.

The Sheriff's Girls' Ranch is in Tallapoosa. http://www.sheriffsranch.org/Pages/Programs/TallapoosaRanch.htm

This is the one located in Shelby County. http://www.alabamayouthhomes.org/FAQ.htm

The Alabama Baptists Homes. http://www.abchome.org/homes.html

Alabama DYS. http://dys.alabama.gov/index.htm
 
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gotmyown3

Member
Thank you! I tried researching but all I could find was substance abuse places. I will share this with my husband. The police were no help. They said all they could do was keep picking her up when she ran away, and even with the charges against her, all she'd get was a slap on the wrist and told to behave. They told us she could do this 3 or 4 more times before the judge even gave it a serious look.
 

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