Lost contact with Granddaughters.

[jakeHortons]

I live in Texas where there is no legal recourse for Grandparents. On is 14 and the other is 19, but has downs. About 4 years ago their mother was arrested because she had had sex with a 15 year old boy. Long 4 years, but I will keep it short. Then she decided she was a lesbian, moved in with another Lesbian and my son divorced her. My son got the girls and remarried. The new wife turned out to be a really bad person and treated the girls terrible.

Along with the Child Protection Agency we went to court and the girls were placed with my daughter. The girls were assigned a liberal lawyer, we went back to court and the judge placed the girls with the two lesbians. This was about 2 1/2 years ago.

We tried to stay in contact with the girls, but the two lesbians made it very difficult. About two years ago my wife called the youngest one, she would have been about 12 years old, she told my wife not to call anymore, that she was harassing them.

Up to the point that the mother got the girls we had a very good relationship with the girls. Of course we lost all contact with my son when the girls were taken away from him and his second wife. We still have no contact with our son and none with our granddaughters.

Here is my question, I would like to try to make contact with them thru the internet. I have worked with teenagers in church and know a lot of teenagers that know the 14 tear old. One of them might be able to contact her thru one of their friends. We live in two different towns that are about 20 miles apart. I doubt that my Granddaughters have internet connections.

I understand that this is desperate, but it is all that we have. All I would want to do is tell them that we love them and think of them all of the time. I would not try to get third parties to transmit personal information. It might be that the 14 year old could contact us if she wanted to do so. She is getting old enough now that she will start to think for herself. Teenagers do that.

 

[ecmst12]

You shouldn't be trying to go around the parents' wishes. Your connection to the girls is your son - if he is getting visitation, you can visit them on his time. Why aren't you speaking with your OWN child?

 

[Antigone*]

I live in Texas where there is no legal recourse for Grandparents. On is 14 and the other is 19, but has downs. About 4 years ago their mother was arrested because she had had sex with a 15 year old boy. Long 4 years, but I will keep it short. Then she decided she was a lesbian, moved in with another Lesbian and my son divorced her. My son got the girls and remarried. The new wife turned out to be a really bad person and treated the girls terrible.

Along with the Child Protection Agency we went to court and the girls were placed with my daughter. The girls were assigned a liberal lawyer, we went back to court and the judge placed the girls with the two lesbians. This was about 2 1/2 years ago.

We tried to stay in contact with the girls, but the two lesbians made it very difficult. About two years ago my wife called the youngest one, she would have been about 12 years old, she told my wife not to call anymore, that she was harassing them.

Up to the point that the mother got the girls we had a very good relationship with the girls. Of course we lost all contact with my son when the girls were taken away from him and his second wife. We still have no contact with our son and none with our granddaughters.

Here is my question, I would like to try to make contact with them thru the internet. I have worked with teenagers in church and know a lot of teenagers that know the 14 tear old. One of them might be able to contact her thru one of their friends. We live in two different towns that are about 20 miles apart. I doubt that my Granddaughters have internet connections.

I understand that this is desperate, but it is all that we have. All I would want to do is tell them that we love them and think of them all of the time. I would not try to get third parties to transmit personal information. It might be that the 14 year old could contact us if she wanted to do so. She is getting old enough now that she will start to think for herself. Teenagers do that.

You should not go behind their M-O-T-H-E-R'S (being a lesbian is not relevant) back.

Maybe if you adjusted your holier-than-thou attitude things would be different.

 

[goddessoflubboc]

Why would you try to contact the child when she has already rebuffed you?

She lives with her mother and her mother's partner - you don't even communicate with your own son or know if he has a relationship with his kids.

The mother has every right to direct who her child does or doesn't communicate with.

In all likelihood they know how to reach you, they just choose not to.

 

[jakeHortons]

There is a lot more to the story. My son does not see the girls. But I expected the answers that you gave.

Don't bother to answer I will not be back to this forum.

I thank you for taking you time to respond.

 

[Proserpina]

There is a lot more to the story. My son does not see the girls. But I expected the answers that you gave.

Don't bother to answer I will not be back to this forum.

I thank you for taking you time to respond.

Every legal forum is going to tell you the same thing. You are also of course free to pay for the same advice from local counsel.

 

[frylover]

https://forum.freeadvice.com/grandparent-s-rights-100/can-i-post-information-my-granddaughters-my-website-438604.html

I think Gramps has been here before. If I am right, he previously posted under the name Rolacoy, a year ago.

 

[Proserpina]

https://forum.freeadvice.com/grandparent-s-rights-100/can-i-post-information-my-granddaughters-my-website-438604.html

I think Gramps has been here before. If I am right, he previously posted under the name Rolacoy, a year ago.

Good catch!

I do believe you are absolutely correct. The style of writing is identical.

 

[>Charlotte<]

I think Gramps has been here before.

No, that's probably a different Texan bigot with an abusive daughter-in-law and lesbian/pedophile ex-daughter-in-law who wants to contact his grandkids via the Internet.

By the way...

I will not be back to this forum.

And where was jakeHortons 17 hours later? Back to this forum.

So now that you're back again, jakeHortons, here's the deal: get your bigoted "values" to send you cards on Grandparents' Day. Go to your prejudices' birthday parties. Sit in the front row when your intolerance gets married. Look forward to your closed mind keeping you company when you're in a nursing home. Meanwhile, you have no actual right to contact this woman's daughters, and you can be legally barred from doing so if you press the issue.

That being said, you can publish a web page with a message meant for them and you can hope they see it. Somewhere near the part where you say you love them, try to explain why it's not worth having a real relationship with them if it would require your acceptance of their mother's rights. Enjoy what's left of your life.

 

[Proserpina]

No, that's probably a different Texan bigot with an abusive daughter-in-law and lesbian/pedophile ex-daughter-in-law who wants to contact his grandkids via the Internet.

By the way...



And where was jakeHortons 17 hours later? Back to this forum.

So now that you're back again, jakeHortons, here's the deal: get your bigoted "values" to send you cards on Grandparents' Day. Go to your prejudices' birthday parties. Sit in the front row when your intolerance gets married. Look forward to your closed mind keeping you company when you're in a nursing home. Meanwhile, you have no actual right to contact this woman's daughters, and you can be legally barred from doing so if you press the issue.

That being said, you can publish a web page with a message meant for them and you can hope they see it. Somewhere near the part where you say you love them, try to explain why it's not worth having a real relationship with them if it would require your acceptance of their mother's rights. Enjoy what's left of your life.

Of course he's back

But Charlotte that was a wonderful post.

 

[goddessoflubboc]

Yeah as Rolacoy they posted quite a bit. I didn't read what was on onlinebaptist but at divorcesupport they were slammed for referring to mom's partner as "it". The rest was pretty much what they heard hear, they just keep asking.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result...

 

[>Charlotte<]

But Charlotte that was a wonderful post.

Thank you, Proserpina. Intolerance infuriates me. Luckily, the only one who's suffering any real consequences is the bigot himself.

 

[frylover]

I just think it is sad that when he posted as Rolacoy he admitted that if he "sucked up" to the ex daughter in law he could see the girls, but he refuses to do so because he has "standards and morals". If he wanted to see those kids that badly he'd do whatever it took.

But, I also think its just as well because those girls don't need his kind of poison in their lives.

 

[LdiJ]

I just think it is sad that when he posted as Rolacoy he admitted that if he "sucked up" to the ex daughter in law he could see the girls, but he refuses to do so because he has "standards and morals". If he wanted to see those kids that badly he'd do whatever it took.

But, I also think its just as well because those girls don't need his kind of poison in their lives.

Ditto, Ditto, Ditto.

 

[LdiJ]

Thank you, Proserpina. Intolerance infuriates me. Luckily, the only one who's suffering any real consequences is the bigot himself.

I agree with Prosepina. That truly was an excellent post.