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Mich111

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What is the name of your state?What is the name of your state? Iowa
Hello,
My husband was misdiagnosed with diabetes in Sept .. He went to our FORMER family physican.. He ran a randon blood sample his blood sugar was 138.. then he did some unine sample I later found out was normal..He put him on actos & told him to monitor his blood...Anyway I'm a first responder and thought this was all kinda odd.. Why wasn't there a A1c test or a fasting glucose test.. I talked my hubby into seeing my new physican.. A few weeks later he took him off the actos and told him to watch his diet & keep up the excerise program we had started...His blood sugar remained in the normal limits..Anyway the 1st Dr didn't even take a complete history because in Sept my husband had dizziness, High BP, and sweating he diagnosed with diabetes...Well on Jan 10th my husband woke up blind in his right eye..It seemed that he had a Retinal artery occlusion or Blockage of Central Retinal Artery... This is almost total blindness in his right eye.. and it will not return..Do you think we have a case against the first Dr?
Ty Michelle
 


rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
Mich111 said:
What is the name of your state?What is the name of your state? Iowa
Hello,
My husband was misdiagnosed with diabetes in Sept .. He went to our FORMER family physican.. He ran a randon blood sample his blood sugar was 138.. then he did some unine sample I later found out was normal..He put him on actos & told him to monitor his blood...Anyway I'm a first responder and thought this was all kinda odd.. Why wasn't there a A1c test or a fasting glucose test.. I talked my hubby into seeing my new physican.. A few weeks later he took him off the actos and told him to watch his diet & keep up the excerise program we had started...His blood sugar remained in the normal limits..Anyway the 1st Dr didn't even take a complete history because in Sept my husband had dizziness, High BP, and sweating he diagnosed with diabetes...Well on Jan 10th my husband woke up blind in his right eye..It seemed that he had a Retinal artery occlusion or Blockage of Central Retinal Artery... This is almost total blindness in his right eye.. and it will not return..Do you think we have a case against the first Dr?
Ty Michelle
Type II diabetes is treated more agressively today than in the past and be it Diabetes or Pre-diabetes, the end result can be the same. While it is true that lifestyle changes including but not limited to diet and exercise may control Type II diabetes, since your husband was also experiencing cardiac related symptoms his doctor correctly Rx Actos which has a better profile for cardiac patients than other Rx in the same class. While extensive history and testing might be required, his doctor apparently had sufficient reason, based on clinical signs to begin therapy and monitoring while your husband adjusted to this new diagnosis and the lifestyle changes that would help him.

As you relate, after comming off Actos his blood sugar remained high even though he was trying to make these changes and subsequently suffered Retinal artery occlusion. This is a complication of type II Diabetes and as much as 60% have some form of Retinopathy.

The complications of Type 1 and Type 2 diabetes are related to high blood glucose levels and correlate with the duration of the diabetes. A patient may have had symptoms of Diabetes for years before being diagnosed. Some of the complications include microvascular changes associated with retinopathy, nephropathy and neuropathy; dermopathy, peripheral vascular disease and coronary artery disease.

The progressive damage to the eye's retina caused by long-term diabetes is the leading cause of blindness in North Americans of working age.

The incidence and severity of the retinopathy increases with the duration of diabetes and is likely to be worse if diabetes management is poor or lacking. (After 20 years of diabetes, nearly all patients with Type 1 diabetes and 60 percent of patients with Type 2 diabetes have some degree of retinopathy.)

Excessive blood flow and blood pressure within the small blood vessels in the retina creates an environment that is highly likely to cause damage. The damaged vessels may leak blood and fluid into the surrounding tissues and cause visual loss. In the earlier and less severe type (non-proliferative diabetic retinopathy) the existing blood vessels become porous and leak fluid into the retina, causing blurred vision. In the more advanced and severe type (proliferative retinopathy), new growth of blood vessels occurs within the eye. These new vessels are fragile and can hemorrhage causing loss of vision.

This is why Type II Diabetes is being agressively treated. Was there any attempt to treat this upon the first symptoms?
http://www.healthatoz.com/healthatoz/Atoz/ency/retinal_artery_occlusion.jsp If you are looking at the first doctor for mal-practice, you are barking up the wrong tree.
 

ellencee

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Mich111
I do not believe your husband has a valid complaint against the first MD. If one of the MDs failed to properly manage your husband, it was the second physician. However, neither physician is responsible for the outcome, which was (more likely than not) years in the making.

Dizziness, sweating, and high blood pressure are indicators of diabetes (among other conditions/diseases). A random blood sugar of less than 200 is usually considered normal.

HbA1c is an expensive test not usually paid for by insurance, Medicare, or Medicaid unless the physician can justify the need for the test. In a patient who has not been diagnosed diabetic, the physician must justify the test through risk factors such as obesity, family history, over the age of 40, two or more fasting blood sugars >200, random blood sugars >200, or a random blood sugar two hours after a meal with a value of 140 or >.

Actos did not cause your husband to suffer any damage. It probably was of some benefit during the short time your husband took it. Actos decreases insulin resistance in the periphery and in the liver and increases insulin sensitivity. In other words, it helps the insulin get into the blood where it can help cell nutrients (sugar) get into the cells and provide nutrients to the body.

It is my opinion that your husband did not suffer any damage that would not have otherwise occurred. Cardiovascular disease alone can lead to such an event and your husband has hypertension...and probably Type II diabetes.

EC
 

panzertanker

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ellencee said:
Mich111
I do not believe your husband has a valid complaint against the first MD. If one of the MDs failed to properly manage your husband, it was the second physician. However, neither physician is responsible for the outcome, which was (more likely than not) years in the making.

Dizziness, sweating, and high blood pressure are indicators of diabetes (among other conditions/diseases). A random blood sugar of less than 200 is usually considered normal.
HbA1c is an expensive test not usually paid for by insurance, Medicare, or Medicaid unless the physician can justify the need for the test. In a patient who has not been diagnosed diabetic, the physician must justify the test through risk factors such as obesity, family history, over the age of 40, two or more fasting blood sugars >200, random blood sugars >200, or a random blood sugar two hours after a meal with a value of 140 or >.

Actos did not cause your husband to suffer any damage. It probably was of some benefit during the short time your husband took it. Actos decreases insulin resistance in the periphery and in the liver and increases insulin sensitivity. In other words, it helps the insulin get into the blood where it can help cell nutrients (sugar) get into the cells and provide nutrients to the body.

It is my opinion that your husband did not suffer any damage that would not have otherwise occurred. Cardiovascular disease alone can lead to such an event and your husband has hypertension...and probably Type II diabetes.

EC
New recommendations for the classification and diagnosis of diabetes mellitus include the preferred use of the terms "type 1" and "type 2" instead of "IDDM" and "NIDDM" to designate the two major types of diabetes mellitus; simplification of the diagnostic criteria for diabetes mellitus to two abnormal fasting plasma determinations; and a lower cutoff for fasting plasma glucose (126 mg per dL [7 mmol per L] or higher) to confirm the diagnosis of diabetes mellitus.
http://www.aafp.org/afp/981015ap/mayfield.html

New guidelines that dictate the current tx regimen for new onset dxof type 2 DM
 

rmet4nzkx

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Mich111 said:
What is the name of your state? Iowa
Hi, again
I dont understand why people are saying my husband has diabetes HE DOSN'T
that is the point he was misdiagnosed he blood sugars are not hight they are NORMAL!!!!!
Mich111 :confused:
I moved this here. The first doctor appropriately treated your husband, you have no cause for malpractice against him. The Rx was clinically indicated, the D/C was not indicated most likely resulting in the blindness. The reasons for this have been explained.

I suggest you seek counsel re malpractice against the second doctor, unless your husband was not compliant with therapy or failed to give the second doctor an accurate medical history.
 

rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
More info on pre diabetes:

http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-prevention/pre-diabetes.jsp
What is Pre-Diabetes?

Before people develop type 2 diabetes, they almost always have "pre-diabetes" -- blood glucose levels that are higher than normal but not yet high enough to be diagnosed as diabetes. There are 41 million people in the United States, ages 40 to 74, who have pre-diabetes. Recent research has shown that some long-term damage to the body, especially the heart and circulatory system, may already be occurring during pre-diabetes.

Research has also shown that if you take action to manage your blood glucose when you have pre-diabetes, you can delay or prevent type 2 diabetes from ever developing. Together with the National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney Diseases, the American Diabetes Association published a Position Statement on "The Prevention or Delay of Type 2 Diabetes" to help guide health care professionals in treating their patients with pre-diabetes.

There is a lot you can do yourself to know your risks for pre-diabetes and to take action to prevent diabetes if you have, or are at risk for, pre-diabetes. The American Diabetes Association has a wealth of resources for people with diabetes. People with pre-diabetes can expect to benefit from much of the same advice for good nutrition and physical activity. The links on this page are cornerstones of successful management of pre-diabetes.

How to Tell if You Have Pre-Diabetes
Learn how you may be at risk for pre-diabetes.

How to Prevent Pre-Diabetes
Pre-diabetes is a serious medical condition that can be treated. The good news is that the recently completed Diabetes Prevention Program study conclusively showed that people with pre-diabetes can prevent the development of type 2 diabetes by making changes in their diet and increasing their level of physical activity.

Frequently Asked Questions about Pre-Diabetes
How do I know if I have pre-diabetes? What is the treatment for pre-diabetes? Learn the answers to these questions and more in this section.

Common Concerns
In this section, learn more about common concerns that people with diabetes face every day. These include what happens when you're sick, and when you travel, should you get a flu/pneumonia shot, and dealing with feelings like anger and depression.

Diabetes Learning Center
It's essential for people with diabetes to take care of themselves. To help you take the first steps toward better diabetes care, we have created the Diabetes Learning Center, an area for people who are newly diagnosed with diabetes, or those needing basic information.

http://diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pubs/insulinresistance/
Insulin Resistance and Pre-Diabetes

Insulin resistance is a silent condition that increases the chances of developing diabetes and heart disease. Learning about insulin resistance is the first step you can take toward making lifestyle changes that will help you prevent diabetes and other health problems.
What does insulin do?

After you eat, the food is broken down into glucose, the simple sugar that is the main source of energy for the body's cells. But your cells cannot use glucose without insulin, a hormone produced by the pancreas. Insulin helps the cells take in glucose and convert it to energy. When the pancreas does not make enough insulin or the body is unable to use the insulin that is present, the cells cannot use glucose. Excess glucose builds up in the bloodstream, setting the stage for diabetes.

Being obese or overweight affects the way insulin works in your body. Extra fat tissue can make your body resistant to the action of insulin, but exercise helps insulin work well.

How are insulin resistance, pre-diabetes, and type 2 diabetes linked?

If you have insulin resistance, your muscle, fat, and liver cells do not use insulin properly. The pancreas tries to keep up with the demand for insulin by producing more. Eventually, the pancreas cannot keep up with the body's need for insulin, and excess glucose builds up in the bloodstream. Many people with insulin resistance have high levels of blood glucose and high levels of insulin circulating in their blood at the same time.

People with blood glucose levels that are higher than normal but not yet in the diabetic range have "pre-diabetes." Doctors sometimes call this condition impaired fasting glucose (IFG) or impaired glucose tolerance (IGT), depending on the test used to diagnose it. In a cross-section of U.S. adults aged 40 to 74 tested during the period 1988 to 1994, 33.8 percent had IFG, 15.4 percent had IGT, and 40.1 percent had pre-diabetes (IGT or IFG or both). Applying these percentages to the 2000 U.S. population, about 35 million adults aged 40 to 74 would have IFG, 16 million would have IGT, and 41 million would have pre-diabetes.

If you have pre-diabetes, you have a higher risk of developing type 2 diabetes, formerly called adult-onset diabetes or noninsulin-dependent diabetes. Studies have shown that most people with pre-diabetes go on to develop type 2 diabetes within 10 years, unless they lose 5 to 7 percent of their body weight--which is about 10 to 15 pounds for someone who weighs 200 pounds--by making modest changes in their diet and level of physical activity. People with pre-diabetes also have a higher risk of heart disease.

Type 2 diabetes is sometimes defined as the form of diabetes that develops when the body does not respond properly to insulin, as opposed to type 1 diabetes, in which the pancreas makes no insulin at all. At first, the pancreas keeps up with the added demand by producing more insulin. In time, however, it loses the ability to secrete enough insulin in response to meals.

Insulin resistance can also occur in people who have type 1 diabetes, especially if they are overweight.
 

rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
There is no reason to send me a PM so I am posting it here.
Mich111 said:
Today,
Mich111
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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Your a Dr.
You don't have all the fact in any of these cases I can tell your a Dr. lol
Why are you so intent on your husband not receiving appropriate care for his healthproblems?

Why on EARTH would you want to sue a doctor who provided appropriate medical care and Rx?
 
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Mich111

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rmet4nzkx said:
There is no reason to send me a PM so I am posting it here.

Why are you so intent on your husband not receiving appropriate care for his healthproblems?

Why on EARTH would you want to sue a doctor who provided appropriate medical care and Rx?
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What is wrong with you? You should be sued for saying that !!!!
 
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rmet4nzkx

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I repeat, why would you want to sue a doctor who provided appropriate care and Rx?

What is your real purpose, clearly it is not legal advice. :rolleyes:

You have no cause of action against the 1st doctor nor against me. :rolleyes:
 
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