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Maternal Grandma's Mental Illness Causing Custodial Problems

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AndyMarie

Junior Member
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Texas

My ex-husband & I share custody of our 10 y.o. daughter. It's a long distance arrangement, he has her during the school year and I have her summers, school breaks, & alternating holidays. The problem involves my mom. She has Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD). She’s 53, and still married to my dad, w/whom she has 7 children (the youngest is a still a minor). Without going into great detail, Mom sometimes has delusional thinking, cuts herself, burns herself, and overdoses on pills. Most days go by w/out incident, but due to her erratic behavior, her doctors, my dad, my ex & I all agree that she can't do any babysitting or be left alone w/my daughter (she has no desire to babysit, but she does want relationships w/her grandkids, & doesn’t seem to understand why they aren’t comfortable hugging her or sitting on her lap).

There are always several adults present when Mom is around any grandkids for a few reasons, one of them being that last year she suspected my daughter of "casting spells and curses on her", and asked her why she “hated her own Nana” and “wanted her Nana to die”. Obviously, my daughter was very upset by this incident. We adults who were there were completely caught off guard, but that’s been the first and only occurrence of Mom including a grandchild in her antics—prior to that, we hadn’t realized how far-reaching her illness could be. We’ve since received help from a child therapist to be able to explain and discuss mental illness with my daughter at an age-appropriate level. The adults in our immediate family have also received therapy to be educated in dealing w/a loved one suffering from BPD.

Mom was admitted to the hospital yesterday after a suicide attempt; her 3rd this year and 7th in 3 years. She was given the charcoal treatment used to neutralize certain overdoses, and will be held for 72 hours. Unfortunately, it’s common for people w/BPD to make repeated false or half-hearted suicide attempts. Unlike someone dealing w/extreme depression, frequent self-harm by someone w/BPD isn’t considered a cry for help as much as it is seen as an attention-seeking ploy or guilt trip. At home, Mom spends most of her time (approx. 22-23 hrs/day) in her bedroom w/the door locked. She has a computer, TV, & bathroom in there; the only things bringing her out are the facts that she doesn’t have a mini refrigerator & microwave in there, and that her doc doesn’t make house calls.

My parents live just 1.5 miles from me, on a spacious and beautiful estate. They have an indoor pool & jacuzzi, as well as a home theatre & horses to ride (according to my daughter, an enchanted forest, too). When my daughter is here, we frequently meet up w/my sisters & their kids to spend time over there. It’s the home we grew up in and we don’t just barge in; we come by invitation from my dad & brother who live there, & don’t go when they aren’t home. Anytime Dad suspects things could go awry, he phones to say Mom is having a rough day & it wouldn’t be appropriate to come over. When we do go, we only stay for a few hours (though we could probably spend all day there w/out ever catching sight of Mom). If she were regularly up & about, if she were the only one living there, or if I were taking my daughter someplace she didn’t enjoy, it would be different. But my daughter begs & pleads to go there, and never wants to leave when it’s time.

I’m scheduled to have her come Friday night through the next week’s Sunday—a 10-day visit, b/c her school lets out the entire week of Thanksgiving to conduct parent-teacher conferences M-W. My ex would like to cancel the visit in light of Mom’s suicide attempt. I’m ok w/compromising to satisfy his concern, but here’s the kicker: I proceeded to arrange different activities for my daughter to substitute for spending time at my folks’ place (except for a few hours at their Thanksgiving dinner), but today my ex turned it around on me and said that this visit won’t be satisfying or healthy for our daughter, as spending ample time at my parent’s house w/her cousins has become part her regular activities here, and not doing the “normal things” will be disruptive to her routine & sense of security/stability that have been established during my parenting time. So basically, I can’t take her over there and I can’t NOT take her over there, so therefore I can’t have her at all.

I told him that such reasoning was hogwash, b/c it wasn’t any different than if my folks up & sold their home to spend their retirement years wandering the world, and their home was no longer accessible to us… something like that would alter her routine here too, & the court would NEVER let it factor into my right to have visitation! Now it seems has got a new strategy, and he’s arguing that I should give up this visit in exchange for an extra week at Christmas, when my mom “is stabilized and healthier”. If this illness were anything like exposing my daughter to the flu I would agree, but there is no guarantee -or even likelihood- that my mom will be more stable next month than she is today, and giving up this time (even though it would be replaced) would mean going 4 months between our last visit and the next. I should add that him trying to cancel visitation inst unique to this situation. He ALWAYS has a hard to time committing to specific dates for visits and exchanges, and it’s always the day or two before that he baulks. I can confirm and re-confirm all I want, but something always seems to come up at the last minute resulting in a change of plans. How can I get him to send her, and does he have a valid reason not to? I know it’s a sticky situation, but I don’t think it’s fair that my daughter can’t come with me to a gathering held at her grandparent’s house to visit her 10 cousins, 6 aunts/uncles/spouses, or her grandpa because my mom is also there. I know he blames me for “allowing” the 1st incident between my mom and our daughter to happen, but I am totally on point now, and wouldn’t let it happen again. To be clear, had my mom laid so much as her little finger on her (and she did not), I wouldn’t expect my daughter to be in her presence ever again.
 


LdiJ

Senior Member
Your ex is full of it. Your child is in no danger around your mother because there is plenty of supervision, and in no danger at your mother's home because there is plenty of supervision.

Inform your ex that if the child does not come for your scheduled parenting time that you WILL be filing for contempt.

Then do NOT allow him to control what you do during your time as long as you are keeping your child safe.
 

AndyMarie

Junior Member
After reading a bunch of other threads where someone is purporting that someone ELSE is mentally ill, I want to clarify a few things; the first being that my mom's illness is not a disputed claim. She's been diagnosed with 2nd and 3rd opinions, and she willingly admits to having Borderline Disorder. She didn't develop it until menopause, which is extremely rare--most women with BPD start showing symptoms as teens and have full blown disorders by the time they reach their early twenties.

Also, please know that I am not being insensitive about the suicide attempts or self harm (cutting, burning, etc.) For many times well beyond the first time, I applied the "suicide attempts are always a cry for help" notion and the "self mutilation is a way to release mental anguish through physical pain" notion to my mom's situation, and continued taking her to the hospital over and over again despite what her doctors told me.

It's very true that those actions are a "cry for help" in almost any other situation, but BPD is unique in this difference. People with BPD are often carefully studied in the art of how far they can push their body or hurt themselves without dying or causing permanent brain/organ damage. They will often use it as a bargaining tool or as punishment (i.e. "If you don't spend the night, I'm going to kill myself" or actually hurting themselves to induce guilt in someone else "you were content to let me die... you didn't even offer to spend the night", etc.). Unfortunately plenty of mistakes do happen and the person accidentally goes too far.

The other thing I wanted to mention was her treatment, and I say this only to save people’s time who might otherwise want to offer advice to get therapy or worry that she is not being adequately cared for. My father is heartbroken, and willing to spend his last dime trying to get my mom back to being healthy. She's been on every medication in the book (currently on 11 meds total, of which 3 are for thyroid & hormonal problems & the other 8 are various psych meds & narcotic pain meds), she sees a psychiatrist & a therapist regularly, has traveled to see experts, been in both cognitive behavioral therapy & dialectical behavioral therapy, had 12 sessions of Electroshock Therapy (ECT), stayed in long-term inpatient treatment programs, & been involved in clinical research trials.

It seems like she’s tried everything, w/the full support of her family and any friend she hasn’t completely alienated. She’s not entirely convinced that she even wants to change. She is very mentally and physically tied to her drugs, and has become addicted to several of the narcotics, benzos, and hypnotics she is prescribed. (I'd say dependent rather than addicted, but takes dangerously high doses above and beyond what's prescribed and takes them in combonations she has been warned against.) Obviously, this only serves to make the situation even more convoluted...
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
That doesn't change things. You still get your time and your ex cannot change that. The court order is an ORDER. You get to decide what you want to do on YOUR TIME with YOUR CHILD.
 

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