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tvenhaus

Junior Member
What is the name of your state? Texas

As the title of the thread suggests, my wife and I recently discovered that we are pregnant. We have insurance with Cigna. We have a $500 deductible and the plan covers 80% after the deductible (up to the out-of-pocket max). Pretty basic stuff, right?

We have been to a doctor twice (we'll call her Dr. Wrong). The first visit, as specified by the insurance company was simply a $20 copay. On the second visit, they tried to get us to sign a prepayment contract. These were the terms:

Total Expense: $1975 (maximum allowable amount)
20%: $395
Deductible: $500
Total Due: $895

After reading the contract, I approached the lady and told her that I thought there was a mistake. The $500 should come off of the Total Expense before you take the 20%. The deductible is not some kind of extra fee, but rather full payment for the first $500 of the expense. Her response was simply, "We've been doing this for 10 years." I did not sign the contract.

I have since confirmed with Cigna THREE times that my understanding is correct. I've even had Cigna call the doctor's office. They told the Cigna customer service rep (in a not so polite way) that they basically didn't care what she said and they were going to do it their way. We have also received a letter from the doctor. In summary, it says, "This is how we do it. Feel free to use a different provider."

My wife and I probably will end up using a different provider, but none of them seem too excited about taking her as a patient because they know we are switching providers and they think we will be trouble makers.

Am I missing something? I know it's not really a lot of money, but can Dr. Wrong really do this? If not, what should I do?
 


ecmst12

Senior Member
That's bizarre. Even if you pay the extra money, the doctor would have to refund it to you in the end after they got the explanation of benefits back from your insurance showing exactly how much you owe. To keep more money then they're entitled to is fraud and means they'd be in violation of their contract with Cigna as well. If Cigna doesn't want to get provider relations involved on that aspect of the problem, then definitely switch doctors.

But at least ask them if they would refund you after getting the EOB back from Cigna showing you only owed $795.
 

tvenhaus

Junior Member
Call me skeptical, but given how they have handled things so far, I have serious doubts that they would ever refund anything. We are in the process of switching doctors now. Once everything is clear, I will ask Cigna to get their provider relations department involved. Nothing to gain personally, but it's the principle of the thing.
 

whatehva

Member
File a complaint with Cigna to their provider relations, and go online to their site. There should be a dismissal letter to your physician.

Your understanding of your benefits is correct. It's like this:

$1975 - 500 deduct = 1475.00
1475.00 x 20% = 295.00

500 + 295.00 = 795.00

To say the least...Most office workers don't understand WTF they're doing. :rolleyes:

You shouldn't have ANY issues going to another Dr. If they give you crap about it, complain about them too. OB-GYN is an open access benefit. They just don't like doing it b/c they have a "global fee" that they receive for the entire pg (hence the pre-service agreement-which is not a contract to stick w/ them thru whatever crap they give you). If you quit in the middle, they only get a portion of it. That's why you feel the attitude...

OH, and they HAVE to refund the additional money. I'm sure they'd just "add it to your balance", but, if you request a payment from them, they have to refund you the amount. It is fraud.
 

ecmst12

Senior Member
Call me skeptical, but given how they have handled things so far, I have serious doubts that they would ever refund anything.
If they refused, you could sue them and win. They'd be collecting the same $100 twice, that's fraud. Cigna might even get the authorities involved. It may not seem like a lot of money, but if they've been doing this with every patient for the last 10 years....
 

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