My Apartment Agreement(Lease) - Legalities & My Rights in this Lease

[SoulVein]

State of Arizona, City: Chandler.

Helloto whom whom this may concern and can give me the best inside scoop of advice,

My name is Paul. I just move din 07-1-2005 and my lease is for a 12months lease. Simply my lease specialist has been this lady Lindsey from the start at the main office of our apartments. Its now beginning of August. lindsey gave todl us since i was an employee of INTEL down the roads that INTEL employees get a monthly discount every one of living here and she says that there was a concessions with Intel. Theh main manager used to be this lady Michelle but now I have a new apartments main manager , his name is Brian.
Well the Apartments lady, LISA calls me today saying that in my payments for my first August monthly rent payment, that it was actually incorrect amount, and also an incorrect amount of rent payment for this month of Sept. This is rediculous because i was told and verified our payment and amounts right before handing in our payment for August first rent payment to our specialist Lindsey. It was all good until 1 month later they actually had the nerve to call us and tell us that we're missing or have some remaining balance of money that needs to be paid somehow and its not correct to Myself at all since Lindsey said everything was correct in cost estimates and amounts. Now this lady and brian, i explained to them what this Lady Lindsey has given to us and the actual Intel empoyee discounts of working at intel and living here. Lisa, and Brian both says now that they never had any concessions with intel. WHOAAA!! you did not jsut say that.. that is BS... i ordered that they talk to Lindsey... because she clearly said to me that its what i get for being an intel eomplyee. I have the payment costs estimate Move-In sheet as well as they do... everything is the same on my sheet and there's but also the understandings between Lindsey and myself are correct in the amounts i pay monthly and what my monthly discount is as an intel employee.... if they don't see this or understand what's going on, because they started to confuse me saying that i owe now some remaining blaance of 76 dollars or so. please Lawyers or any of you out there that can help me in any form of advice pleaserequest the Move-IN Cost Estimates Sheet and the actual amounts for this Apartment Agreement (Lease) amounts from me, and i'll be mor ethan happy to paste it in here and reply as soon as possible, time is sensitive for me so please respon and help me with this consistantly and often as possible. Thank you so much for any and all advice.

IN addition to this as the complex takes care of in maintenance is the AC units: the ac unit in my place they have tried to fix its problem for over a month now i would say 30 days or more etc. They said each time it was fixed but it was not workign properly in the way that i have always wanted it at 75 to 78 degrees... adn the thermostat ALWAYS read 80 to 80 degrees... and its still sticky, uncomfortable and just Hot as heck. The lead maintenance tech even took a laser sensor degree reader to our vents inside and he sayus it was reading it at about 69 degrees, and the thermostat reading were still the same as i said and its still hot and sticky. They said it was fixed. My parents and even my fiance said its still not working properly!!!
So, now beginning of September a new fricken problem has occured with this, now the AC woudl not shut off at all when i turn the knowb dial to make it shut off etc.. and it wouldn't shut off. I had to manually put it onto the OFF position on the switch and now its liek I have no AC working properly, it woke me up at 3:am Sunday mornig weekend of labor day and its ran up my bill most likely with APS... i have made many requests and they still have not kept it in working order etc. What steps can i take to get things going.. and if they continue to make mistakes on maintenance and not fixing the AC's problems and my requests... then what do i have a RIGHT to do... and what steps shoudl i take first then what steps after that if it doesn't work etc??

Sincerely,

Paul

 

[JETX]

What is the amount of rent shown on your WRITTEN lease??
That is the amount you must pay.

Also, if your post is an example of an Intel employee, I am selling my stock!!

 

[SoulVein]

Here's a copy of our "MOVE-IN COST ESITIMATES" Sheet:

*Intel Employee (which Lindsey said its 100 dollars off every month - discount)
Date of Deposit: 6-18-05
Lease term: 12 months
Mode in Date: 7-1-2005
Apartment #: 2128
Market Rental rate: $654
Rent Concession: $0
Water/Sewer: $20
Pet Rent: $0
Subtotal: $674.00
Monthly Rental Tax(1.5%): $10.11

Total Monthly Charges: $684.11 (I ended up giving thema check of 650.00)

(on the righ tof this is written from Lindsey Aug 1st
owe: Owe: $342.06, then to the lef ton this paper
you, Na'Deen wrote $242.06 (-) minus
- (minus)Intel equals $192.96

First Month's rent(including tax): $684.11, Due Sept.
1st, 2005.
Prorated Rent(including tax): $0

>NON-REFUNDABLE FEES
Administrative Fee(including tax): $150
Pet Fee(including tax): $0
Application Fee(s)(incluing tax): $20.30

REFUNDABLE FEES
Security Deposit: $100.00 (and Lisa told me its of
course normally $200.00 dollars but they se tit for us
at $100.00)
Utility Deposit: $0
Pet Deposit: $0

MOVE-IN CONCESSION: 1 1/2(one and a half)Month Free
+(plus) 1/2(half)security deposit ( but on another
greentree paper it says WAIVE security deposit)
+(plus) $100 off move-in Look&Lease (but on this other
greentree sheet says $100 off 1st Months Rent).

LESS HOLDING DEPSOIT(received): $100 (ck#1005)
LESS APPLICATION FEES(received): $20.30 (ck#1006)

=TOTAL AMOUNT DUE AT MOVE-IN: $50.00

xOne(1) cashiers check or money order in the amount
of: $50.00.

Leasing specialist: Lindsey.


now what are they saying i
don't understand this math now thats confusing from
what we already payed in our first Aug. payment i
thought you and i figured this out, then I decided i
went to talk about it to Lindsey, so I made this
payment of 192.96... somehow Lisa says some thigns
were already waived as intel employee and some things
were taken care of already in other fields that gave
me a certain abalance already. Its not making sense
babe its not lokos liek she says I am going to owe
plus maybe even haev late fee charges.

is there anyway you can help me on this also JET how much experienc eod you have in this field and what position do you hold in this law.
Paul grrrrrrrr

What is the amount of rent shown on your WRITTEN lease??
That is the amount you must pay.

Also, if your post is an example of an Intel employee, I am selling my stock!!

 

[JETX]

Here's a copy of our "MOVE-IN COST ESITIMATES" Sheet

I don't give a damn about the 'estimated move-in' costs.
The ONLY relevant issue is WHAT DOES YOUR LEASE SAY AS THE MONTHLY RENT??

First Month's rent(including tax): $684.11, Due Sept. 1st, 2005.

Presumably, that answers my question above.... so that is how much you are to pay each and every month of your tenancy.

Also, from your detailed and confusing post, it appears you are liable for the following additional PRE-move in costs:
Administrative Fee(including tax): $150
Application Fee(s)(incluing tax): $20.30
Security Deposit: $100.00

And that you have already paid:
LESS HOLDING DEPSOIT(received): $100 (ck#1005)
LESS APPLICATION FEES(received): $20.30 (ck#1006)

So, with all of that, it would APPEAR that you are required to pay:
Rent: $684.11 (monthly)
Fees and deposit: $270.30 (one-time)
Credit for pre-paid: ($120.30)
Total you owe ON MOVE IN: $834.11

 

[SoulVein]

Actually i'm sorry thats just what it says on the move-in sheet, BUT... I actually as an intel employee get those two waived onm ymove in as they were , Lindsey actually has said and already has been done that: all deposits and fees are waived on my move-in except for my application fee. Thats all that has been done, so sorry about thart part of this confusion. So we only owe the 684. But what about my questions about this AC thermostat problems over and over they have had over a month now. Is there something else that you can help me here with this?

Lisa called today saying we just owe a remaining balance from something that incurred wrongly with our payments for august and sept. which we just paid. Lisa says its a total amount of $76.57, and this sucks on because now its like this doesn't do ME any good telling me NOW one month later sheesh.. thats rediculous. can you help me dtermine where this amount remaining is coming from? Also its like an additional $5.00 ever day therafter when the month payment is due if you need to know these details about any math.

where is the website that refers to my RIGHTS ... and WHAT ARE THE ONLY REASONS in the laws of Az here that would be the reasons i can get out of my lease ONLY if i needed to see my legal options if this became obvious?

paul

I don't give a damn about the 'estimated move-in' costs.
The ONLY relevant issue is WHAT DOES YOUR LEASE SAY AS THE MONTHLY RENT??


Presumably, that answers my question above.... so that is how much you are to pay each and every month of your tenancy.

Also, from your detailed and confusing post, it appears you are liable for the following additional PRE-move in costs:
Administrative Fee(including tax): $150
Application Fee(s)(incluing tax): $20.30
Security Deposit: $100.00

And that you have already paid:
LESS HOLDING DEPSOIT(received): $100 (ck#1005)
LESS APPLICATION FEES(received): $20.30 (ck#1006)

So, with all of that, it would APPEAR that you are required to pay:
Rent: $684.11 (monthly)
Fees and deposit: $270.30 (one-time)
Credit for pre-paid: ($120.30)
Total you owe ON MOVE IN: $834.11

 

[JETX]

Actual;ly i'm sorry thats just wha tit says on the move-in sheet

And once AGAIN... it doesn't matter what the 'move-in sheet' says. The ONLY issue is what does the lease say???

But what about my questions about this ACV thermastat problems over and over they have had over a month now.

Contact the apartment management.... in WRITING.

where is the website that refers to me RIGHTS

http://www.azbar.org/LegalResources/findlawyer.cfm

and WHAT ARE THE ONLY REASONS in the laws of Az here that would be the reasons i can get out of my lease ONLY if i needed to the option became obvius?

Your complaint about the A/C is NOT sufficient to terminate your lease obligation. It is hot in Arizona during the summer. A really good A/C can usually only remove 15 to 20 degrees difference from inside/outside. Welcome to the DESERT!! Live with it.

Oh, and thank you!!
After reading your almost illiterate post and your claim to be an Intel employee, I have sold my stock. If this thread is an example of their hiring 'qualifications', the stock will likely drop like a lead weight.

 

[SoulVein]

Please stay on topic, and not talk about quotes. Hmmph also i am on a contract, temporary assignment. Stop presuming i am the spokesmen of Intel in its entirety.

This is what I already did as well to request that they will need to order the new thermastat and repair it without anymore mistakes , which was a letter in my handwriting to the complex, addresses to them and from myself.

http://www.azbar.org/LegalResources/findlawyer.cfm,

is this a lawyer company referral forum or a free advice forum?
When i last checked it's been a free advice forum. Well obviously in my case.

"Your complaint about the A/C is NOT sufficient to terminate your lease obligation. It is hot in Arizona during the summer. A really good A/C can usually only remove 15 to 20 degrees difference from inside/outside. Welcome to the DESERT!! Live with it."

Ok but cna you give me a website that has the statues of tenancy Arizona laws.. and the reasons for legal leaving a lease listed.?

Paul

 

[JETX]

Please stay on topic

Like talking to a rock!!

Stop presuming i am the spokesmen of Intel in its entirety.

Ahhhh, so there is hope for Intel. I am sure they will be glad to hear it.

 

[SoulVein]

NOW, this is starting to be a feeling of harrassment or retaliation, the maintenance tech guy comes in and says that the manager of the complex has todl him to tell me that i'm not allowed to hang out clothes opr whatever on my top balcony... this is very not cool? There;s somethign wrong here, i won't tolerate this. Its my lette ri sent just requesting the ac thermastat to be fixe dwith no more mistkaes which they have made constantly over multiple times over a month with problems. This has all happen consecutively within a week this week. Whaty can i do to stop this manager form doing this what ar emy rights and why can they say this?

helpme on this one please.

Paul

 

[JETX]

Whaty can i do to stop this manager form doing this what ar emy rights and why can they say this?
helpme on this one please.

Help you with what??
The management company has EVERY right to tell you not to hang your clothes outside. Hell, they don't want it to look like a 3rd world country.

Simple solution. Learn to play by the rules.

 

[SoulVein]

Help you with what??
The management company has EVERY right to tell you not to hang your clothes outside. Hell, they don't want it to look like a 3rd world country.

Simple solution. Learn to play by the rules.

See i can learn to fight these type of things in the court of law or by getting a lwyer, But i just need advice for free as its going so far. The question is: i can tell this Manager to stop harrassing me, by telling me to do this right? and if I do tell him to stop this... (since its a new manager, and people all over the complex hang their clothes out just as i do, i've seen it, plus if they force me to use my dryer/electricity.... thats wrong i should not be subjected to this rule if its not in the lease/contract correct?, and if they are going to try and force me to do this right now then i will request the manager to write up a Memorandum to every single person of this complex and have them deliver it to each persons mailbox or door, i can do this as well right?)

Sincerely,
Paul

P.s. JET how long have you been a lawyer in this field and how many cases have you worked on recently that dealwith similiar issues as my own.?

 

[txlandlady]

Paul, if you feel you are being treated unfairly by management have you considered talking to someone in your Human Resources Dept? You said there's an agreement between Intel (I believe it was) and this apt. complex. Presumably they give a discount in rent and in exchange the HR people tell employees about the discount, thereby steering business in their direction.

If that's all true, the apartment complex wouldn't want to lose that extra business, and a little intervention by Intel might improve the situation.

 

[JETX]

JET how long have you been a lawyer in this field

Longer than you.

and how many cases have you worked on recently that dealwith similiar issues as my own.?

A LOT more than you.

 

[SoulVein]

Paul, if you feel you are being treated unfairly by management have you considered talking to someone in your Human Resources Dept? You said there's an agreement between Intel (I believe it was) and this apt. complex. Presumably they give a discount in rent and in exchange the HR people tell employees about the discount, thereby steering business in their direction.

It's not my job first of all to be a runner for this complex to make money i have my own life of responsibilities to take care enough.

If that's all true, the apartment complex wouldn't want to lose that extra business, and a little intervention by Intel might improve the situation.

It's Lindsey, my Lease Specialist who i had my first ever meeting with when signed the lease to live here at this complex, an she's the one that has told me about concessions with Intel, that i will be getting a discount every month on my payments. That's all she has said and we went through all the mat calculated before i even moved in, thats the whoel reason i live here is because of this special. It's not my responsibility to talk to intel about my lease with this apartment complex and the management here, i have a right to privacy of course, and Intel does not even have to know where i live at all etc. Except for what son my application from applying to work at Intel.

Have you heard about the Arizona's Tenants Association?

Paul

 

[txlandlady]

It's not my responsibility to talk to intel about my lease with this apartment complex and the management here, i have a right to privacy of course, and Intel does not even have to know where i live at all etc.

Paul

You misunderstand what I'm saying. My point is that Intel might be able to HELP you to get the apt management to fix your AC and lay off harassing you - if that's what you feel is going on.

The apartment complex obviously WANTS Intel employees to live there - that's WHY they give a discount. Don't you think they'd be worried about Intel finding out that they don't run things smoothly?

You certainly don't have any obligation to envolve your employer. I just figured they'd be on your side, and since it appears SOMEONE at Intel has a relationship with SOMEONE at your apartments............well, never mind, I guess.