my childs birth certificate

[chrissy_shelton]

What is the name of your state? California

Well I will give some background info to start.
I had that typical "drunk dad, evil step mom" type of situation and i would get beat up and I called the police and child services on them, my friends mom and my boss from work called child services but nothign ever changed because my step mom was very menipulative. So, I ran away when I was 16 and ran away from Florida to California. Please do not judge me for this and this is not the reason I am posting here I just want to give some general background information as to why I chose what I chose, even it was a poor choice.

i lived with illigal immigrants from Peru, and they convinced me to use a fake birth certificate to sign up for prenatul care when I got pregnant at 17.
Therefore, I received only health benefits for my pregnancy and hospital stay only. No other health insurance at all. It would be the same wether I used my real name or not so I do not think it would be a huge case of insurance fraud?

Well, so when I gave birth and it gave time to sign the birth certificate I used that fake name. At the time, I had NO idea that I could be safe from being sent home.

My child's father has recently fallen into a bad group of friends and has been neglecting me as a girlfriend, and has broken up with me and put me down. I am not allowed to have friends. He tells me constantly to move out but every time I seriously talk about moving out, he says that he will take my child away from me that I can not have him. He doesnt do much to our child except yell at him. He just buys diapers and food, which I am grateful for and I assume I am lucky to get even that. But emotional we are not happy.

I've recently gone back to homeschool-high school for myself (which my step mom dropped me out of public high school when I lived with her because she didnt want to deal with the school....). And, well, I recently rekindled my relationship with an old friend, and have been talking about moving in together. But in order for me to move out I need to get some sort of legal guardianship over my son.

When I told my ex-boyfriend that I live with that I want to move out and bring anthony with me, he said that he would do everything to take our child away from me.

What I want to know, is how would I start getting custody of my child so I can move him to a better house (we live now with his family and alot of ****roaches which is nasty...) and better schools. I will give up all I can for the better of our child, and my ex boyfriend wont do a thing, he doesnt care what tony gets or doesnt get.

And I know I think we have to go to court. Would I have to explain that I am the birth mother, who used a fake name in the penalty of purjery? Would I get a huge fine, and jail time? I do not work at all, but my ex boyfriend works and I am a house wife thing. Because I don't work, would that be used against me for legal guardianship?

And, if you could please please give me ANY and ALL advice or heads up on what to expect. I have no idea what I am getting in to. And I deeply regret every useing this fake name, and I want to do everything I can to get rid of it all. I just want legal guardianship of my biological child.

Thank you for your time.

 

[Ohiogal]

This has come up before and someone on the othe rthread suggested you may need to have a paternity test if the need arises to prove that this is your child. As the biological unmarried mother, for dad to get custody, he first has to establish himself as dad. Which means a paternity test for him unless he signed an AOP. You can leave the house with the child and he cannot do much to stop you unless he is on the birth certificate as dad with his real name and that could complicate matters.

 

[casa]

What is the name of your state? California

Well I will give some background info to start.
I had that typical "drunk dad, evil step mom" type of situation and i would get beat up and I called the police and child services on them, my friends mom and my boss from work called child services but nothign ever changed because my step mom was very menipulative. So, I ran away when I was 16 and ran away from Florida to California. Please do not judge me for this and this is not the reason I am posting here I just want to give some general background information as to why I chose what I chose, even it was a poor choice.

i lived with illigal immigrants from Peru, and they convinced me to use a fake birth certificate to sign up for prenatul care when I got pregnant at 17.
Therefore, I received only health benefits for my pregnancy and hospital stay only. No other health insurance at all. It would be the same wether I used my real name or not so I do not think it would be a huge case of insurance fraud?

Well, so when I gave birth and it gave time to sign the birth certificate I used that fake name. At the time, I had NO idea that I could be safe from being sent home.

My child's father has recently fallen into a bad group of friends and has been neglecting me as a girlfriend, and has broken up with me and put me down. I am not allowed to have friends. He tells me constantly to move out but every time I seriously talk about moving out, he says that he will take my child away from me that I can not have him. He doesnt do much to our child except yell at him. He just buys diapers and food, which I am grateful for and I assume I am lucky to get even that. But emotional we are not happy.

I've recently gone back to homeschool-high school for myself (which my step mom dropped me out of public high school when I lived with her because she didnt want to deal with the school....). And, well, I recently rekindled my relationship with an old friend, and have been talking about moving in together. But in order for me to move out I need to get some sort of legal guardianship over my son.

When I told my ex-boyfriend that I live with that I want to move out and bring anthony with me, he said that he would do everything to take our child away from me.

What I want to know, is how would I start getting custody of my child so I can move him to a better house (we live now with his family and alot of ****roaches which is nasty...) and better schools. I will give up all I can for the better of our child, and my ex boyfriend wont do a thing, he doesnt care what tony gets or doesnt get.

And I know I think we have to go to court. Would I have to explain that I am the birth mother, who used a fake name in the penalty of purjery? Would I get a huge fine, and jail time? I do not work at all, but my ex boyfriend works and I am a house wife thing. Because I don't work, would that be used against me for legal guardianship?

And, if you could please please give me ANY and ALL advice or heads up on what to expect. I have no idea what I am getting in to. And I deeply regret every useing this fake name, and I want to do everything I can to get rid of it all. I just want legal guardianship of my biological child.

Thank you for your time.

In CA you already have custody of this child as an unmarried mother who gave birth. The father isn't legally the father unless/until he establishes Paternity in CA courts.

Custody is not your biggest problem~ Your problem is that you have registered yourself & your child under false identities and need to clear that up ASAP. You also received government services via fraud. You may need to pay back the cost of services you received....You really are in a big mess here and need to speak with SSA or a Social Services rep. re; what your next move should be.

 

[Ohiogal]

In CA you already have custody of this child as an unmarried mother who gave birth. The father isn't legally the father unless/until he establishes Paternity in CA courts.

Custody is not your biggest problem~ Your problem is that you have registered yourself & your child under false identities and need to clear that up ASAP. You also received government services via fraud. You may need to pay back the cost of services you received....You really are in a big mess here and need to speak with SSA or a Social Services rep. re; what your next move should be.

However short of a paternity test how does she prove that she is the mother of the child since she may not have any proof that she is the name on the birth certificate. Everything else is a big problem however as well. If dad is listed with his real name on the birth certificate then mom will have a problem if dad presses the issue.

 

[casa]

However short of a paternity test how does she prove that she is the mother of the child since she may not have any proof that she is the name on the birth certificate. Everything else is a big problem however as well. If dad is listed with his real name on the birth certificate then mom will have a problem if dad presses the issue.

Baby's name is fake too....so who's he the father 'of'? This is a huge mess...she needs to get in contact with Social Security and amend the situation~ and then look at paying back any govt. assistance she received.

 

[LdiJ]

Baby's name is fake too....so who's he the father 'of'? This is a huge mess...she needs to get in contact with Social Security and amend the situation~ and then look at paying back any govt. assistance she received.

I disagree that baby's name is fake...a parent can name a child (first and last) anything they want to so baby's name would not be fake.

However, I agree that this is a HUGE mess and can only be straightened out with strong legal assistance.

 

[Ohiogal]

I disagree that baby's name is fake...a parent can name a child (first and last) anything they want to so baby's name would not be fake.

However, I agree that this is a HUGE mess and can only be straightened out with strong legal assistance.

i agree with LdiJ. Baby's name is not fake. It is the child's legal name. the problem is the mother is not a real person. And we have no clue about the father. But as you said Casa she has a huge mess and will probably be facing a lot of problems when it comes to paying back the government.

 

[chrissy_shelton]

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I know this is a huge problem. and I want to know everything I have to do and where to start and what I might have as punishment when I try to get this sorted out.

The father yes used his real name on the certificate. Just the mothers name is fake. our childs name is real and is using his dads last name instead of the fake mothers last name.

But how do I start to change this legal guardianship thing, I go to where you listed above, and tell them what, that I need to change my sons birth certificate, or get a test to show I am the birth mother?

And If I don't have the money to pay back, would I go to jail instead?

 

[ceara19]

However short of a paternity test how does she prove that she is the mother of the child since she may not have any proof that she is the name on the birth certificate. Everything else is a big problem however as well. If dad is listed with his real name on the birth certificate then mom will have a problem if dad presses the issue.

A paternity test isn't going to prove that she is the mother. She will need to have a maternity test done for that.

 

[Ohiogal]

A paternity test isn't going to prove that she is the mother. She will need to have a maternity test done for that.

Yeah yeah yeah... Okay she needs a maternity test. Either way. She is going to have get one.
OP,
You need the court to order a maternity test for you but to do that you will need to admit your fraud. You may also face jail time for the benefits -- you received money illegally. That is theft by deception. You need to talk to an attorney and have them guide you through this mess. Contact one tomorrow and see if they will meet with you at a free or reduced rate.

 

[ceara19]

Yeah yeah yeah... Okay she needs a maternity test. Either way. She is going to have get one.
OP,
You need the court to order a maternity test for you but to do that you will need to admit your fraud. You may also face jail time for the benefits -- you received money illegally. That is theft by deception. You need to talk to an attorney and have them guide you through this mess. Contact one tomorrow and see if they will meet with you at a free or reduced rate.

There is a chance that she could get off fairly easy on the fraud. She was a minor at the time and her intention was not to defraud the welfare system, but to conceal her identity. Had she used her name, she would have still received the same, if not more, benefits. It was a very stupid thing to do, especially since she could have gotten benefits as "Jane Doe" if she was worried about being picked up by the police for running away.

Public assistance agencies don't share information with other agencies. That's how illegal aliens manage to collect aid without worrying that they will be deported.

 

[chrissy_shelton]

Thank you everybody for your responses.

I have one more question. I was looking up attorneys for fraud crimes, and one of the things they said to make the case look good for me is "Gather documentation of your good character (reference letters, employment history, community service, etc.) "

our childs father is working full time, and its just enough to pay the bills and to buy food and neccesary items. I stay at home and take care of our kid because we can't affiord daycare and know nobody to take care of our child for awhile if I could start getting a job to start paying for daycare.

I am actually taking a home-school high school course for myself to get some education right now, and that will end in 2 years, and planned on starting to work when our child turned 4 or 5 (2 or 3 years) and started going to preschool so I could work while he's at school.

Since I am not working at all, I have no employment history from when I was 18+, do you suggest that I wait untill I keep a job for 8 months or so, to show a good employment history? I know that it might look bad if I wait so long?

Just wondering what the best option here would be, to wait and get a job and get a history, or to just do it now. If I was to pay back the health care I received when I was pregnant, I know I don't have the money, so I am assuming I would get jail time instead. And if I go to jail, nobody could watch our child while our childs father works..

What would you do, and what would be better for me to do? Thank you

 

[stealth2]

You need to talk to a local lawyer.

 

[Shay-Pari'e]

You need to talk to a local lawyer.

Sorry to Hijkack. Stealth you need to clear your PM's. I have a question for you. I'm going to bed, I have been very sick, and wanted to run something by you.

 

[stealth2]

Sorry to Hijkack. Stealth you need to clear your PM's. I have a question for you. I'm going to bed, I have been very sick, and wanted to run something by you.

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