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ncp exercises fraction of PT. son disappointed, daughter wants NO pt

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screeser

Junior Member
What is the name of your state? Arizona
For the past 5 years, the father of my kids has completely disregarded all aspects of our consent decree. He has never exercised more than one-third of his parenting time, usually much less. He tells my son he is coming, then fails to show or call- or makes me give him cash to show up. (he earns six self employment figures, I am waiting for spine surgery,, living on 800 a month w two kids). My son is crushed over and over by dad's no shows. My 9 year old daughter has been pleading for her own lawyer so that she can completely stop seeing her dad. He has done numerous things that are abusive physically to kids, screams at her for days about what horrid people her mom and grandparents are, dmashes objects nearher head when angry with me. He has bragged that he can still "F*&k with you through your kids", as a form of control. Orders say we have joint custody but spell out my final word on everything- education, religion, medical care, etc. My kids have been beaten up by older children when dad left them at his drug dealing brother's house on his weekend. He rarely sees kids, and ignores my 6 year old son to antagonize my daughter- who says he does not let her sleep when she is at his place. I have consulted shrinks and counselors- they say that in some cases NO dad is preferable to a really really awful one. I cannot consult an attorney--I still owe 8000 from 2003. Should I ask for sole custody and PT that is consistent with what has been used? Do I support my daughter in asking to never see her dad again? What do I do about my boy- who adores his dad- stop the damage that is being done by his dad's disregard for him-- or stay out of the way of the crappy minimal relationship he barely has with his father? I love my kids more than anything and I want what is best for them- Since I am really the only parent, do I risk my son resenting me for keeping him fromhis dad? And does my daughter have a chance of being heard by a judge, with supporting evidence and police reports, and stopping her visits with a man she cannot stand and refuses to acknowledge as her parent? My heart breaks for both of them.
 


LdiJ

Senior Member
What is the name of your state? Arizona
For the past 5 years, the father of my kids has completely disregarded all aspects of our consent decree. He has never exercised more than one-third of his parenting time, usually much less. He tells my son he is coming, then fails to show or call- or makes me give him cash to show up. (he earns six self employment figures, I am waiting for spine surgery,, living on 800 a month w two kids). My son is crushed over and over by dad's no shows. My 9 year old daughter has been pleading for her own lawyer so that she can completely stop seeing her dad. He has done numerous things that are abusive physically to kids, screams at her for days about what horrid people her mom and grandparents are, dmashes objects nearher head when angry with me. He has bragged that he can still "F*&k with you through your kids", as a form of control. Orders say we have joint custody but spell out my final word on everything- education, religion, medical care, etc. My kids have been beaten up by older children when dad left them at his drug dealing brother's house on his weekend. He rarely sees kids, and ignores my 6 year old son to antagonize my daughter- who says he does not let her sleep when she is at his place. I have consulted shrinks and counselors- they say that in some cases NO dad is preferable to a really really awful one. I cannot consult an attorney--I still owe 8000 from 2003. Should I ask for sole custody and PT that is consistent with what has been used? Do I support my daughter in asking to never see her dad again? What do I do about my boy- who adores his dad- stop the damage that is being done by his dad's disregard for him-- or stay out of the way of the crappy minimal relationship he barely has with his father? I love my kids more than anything and I want what is best for them- Since I am really the only parent, do I risk my son resenting me for keeping him fromhis dad? And does my daughter have a chance of being heard by a judge, with supporting evidence and police reports, and stopping her visits with a man she cannot stand and refuses to acknowledge as her parent? My heart breaks for both of them.
Realistically, what you should probably do is get both of your children some regular counseling. Someone objective that they can talk to who can help them deal with their feelings, and help them with coping mechanisms.

Other than that, you should probably "stay out of the way of the the crappy minimal relationship". A judge isn't going to take away dad's visitation entirely, and may not even reduce it based on the fact that dad doesn't exercise the majority of it. A judge certainly isn't going to allow your daughter, at 9, to decide not to see her father anymore.
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
Ask for a modification in that dad needs to call 24 hours before in order to use his scheduled visitation time. If he does not call, he does not get it. He does not also get paid to exercise it.
Get counseling, as Ld stated.
An attorney for the child may fight for the child not to have to see her father however that is not what a GAL would normally do based on what you have stated.
 

screeser

Junior Member
non exercised visitation

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)?
there is another question w thread that explains more- under screeser (user name).
appreciate any input

I am in Arizona, and I did get kids into counseling, have tried mediation 2 more times (security had to walk me out because Dad was violent and tossed out), and have sought therapists for my kids and I. Their professional opinion is that Dad is highly abusive. Now, I have no money for representation, the program in the town I am in SUCKS and has not helped the last 4 times I have sought help, and I cannot go to trail on my own.
THE family judge in my town "does not do" en camera interviews with children, though they are common in every other county and provided for in Az statutes and rules of court. I figure I can make a request and get shot down, then ask for an atty for kids. I don't know how to write the motion, and believe me I've looked in the law library and online for help.
what would a hypothetical atty say to this circumstance? And can csomeone point me in direction for help with writing the motion on a blank form?
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)?
there is another question w thread that explains more- under screeser (user name).
appreciate any input

I am in Arizona, and I did get kids into counseling, have tried mediation 2 more times (security had to walk me out because Dad was violent and tossed out), and have sought therapists for my kids and I. Their professional opinion is that Dad is highly abusive. Now, I have no money for representation, the program in the town I am in SUCKS and has not helped the last 4 times I have sought help, and I cannot go to trail on my own.
THE family judge in my town "does not do" en camera interviews with children, though they are common in every other county and provided for in Az statutes and rules of court. I figure I can make a request and get shot down, then ask for an atty for kids. I don't know how to write the motion, and believe me I've looked in the law library and online for help.
what would a hypothetical atty say to this circumstance? And can csomeone point me in direction for help with writing the motion on a blank form?
Then you have issues. Did you get the children a GAL?
 

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