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busybee04

Member
What is the name of your state?Ohio

Dad is exercising his 4 consecutive week visitation ( court ordered) On Friday, I had the child call to speak with her Mom because she hadn't seen her or talked to her in 1 week. Mom immediately wanted to speak with me ( step mom) since Dad wasn't home. She told me it was her weekend and if I didn't have child home by 6:30 she was calling the police. I tried explaining to her that her weekend was next weekend. 1 st & 3 rd weekends of month. She asked to speak with child. Child said No Thanks, just tell her I said bye. Mom hung up. I called back, she continued to yell at me and it was upsetting the child since the child didn't want to call her in the first place. I told her I would bring her home, Mom continued to yell and was accusing me of keeping her. She said she already had called the police. Kept yelling at me.So I hung up. We left.

I had to run an errand first and then we drove her home. Took all of an hour. No one was there. I left message on their phone that they could come get her. I was not making two trips. We came back home. Mom called two hours later. Asking to speak with child. Child was busy. She continued to yell at me. Saying I was kidnapping child and Dad was in contempt of Court. How was that even possible I told them to come get her. I hung up. I called Police. She was on hold with them while I talked with someone. I told my side of the story. Apparently they came to our house to get her. Why would they come out to get her, if I said I was bringing her home for the weekend. Maybe she assumed I was vindictive like she is. I don't know.

Anyway, I told the Police that child would call her when we got off the phone. Mom talked with child and then I spoke with her to see what time she was coming to get her. Mom always wants to argue. It couldn't have been Ok I'll be there at this time, bye. She is still argueing about 10 yrs. ago when my husband and her broke up. They dated in High School. My 10 yr. reunion is next month. She hung up. I called back, talked with step dad and set up a time. 5:00 p.m. Saturday. Step Dad calls early Saturday, wants to come get her then. I said fine. Step Dad comes over, gets child, was nice, I told child we'll see her Sunday night at 7:00. Step Dad said fine, we'll be there. I said see you then.

It's now Sunday, Mom called Dad about two hours ago saying that she wants Dad to sign over all rights to the child, child doesn't want to see him anymore, and she was coming over at 7:00 to get the childs softball stuff. Dad said he was tired of playing her games. He doesn't know what to do.She has kept the child from him many times. And as in my other posts she has abused child physically, emotionally, has neglected the child. Not trying to talk bad about anyone, but she needs HELP! She is always playing mind games with the child.

I found out, of course I'm crying and very upset. Not see my step daughter ever again. No way. I call back and of course they don't answer the phone. And of course yes they are home. I'm not psychic, but when you're in the middle of a game for this long you just know. Sorry, got side tracked. I told the machine that if child was not in Dad's possession by 7:00, either by her coming out here or us picking her up that SHE was in violation of court order.

Now what do we do. I know they got the message. If she won't answer the phone. Do we go to pick up the child with the POLICE or do we wait for her to come at 7:00 to pick up child's stuff and hope she's with them?

Dad still has three weeks vacation with her and he is on vacation from work this week, and Mom knows this. Any advice is deeply appreciated. We are so upset and confused on what to do. We just know that the child needs to be away from there. :(
 


kat1963

Senior Member
Both of you need to stop communicating with her. It's doing nothing but hurting the child. Can ALL of you adults not see that? Both you & your husband can't put out her fire until YOU stop fueling it!!! WHY are you starting crap? Just leave it alone. If she didn't call the kid it's NOT your problem!!!! Heck you should be happy that she doesn't have a concern or reason to call when the child is away. Your husband needs to go pick up for visitation as per the court order. If she's not available, if he feels that his visitation has been violated then he obtains a police report (or even a gas station date/time will do in a pinch) then HE files a motion to show cause (contempt) against the ex. Ask for makeup time, support sanctions even jail time. Your husband follows the court order, when she refuses to comply there is no fighting but there is a filing!!!!!
Do NOT answer the phone when she calls, let her leave a message (hopefully a damning one)? Do NOT call her. DO NOT CALL HER. (Do you hear me now?) Communication needs to be done by certified RR USPS mail. Trust me, been there, have the t-shirt. You'll be surprised just how quiet your house will be for it too. It might take a while for her to realize you aren't playing anymore games though, one just has to ride it out!
Stop the drama damnit.
KAT
 

LdiJ

Senior Member
I agree with the above poster...YOU fueled that fire too. You should never have had the child call her....You should never have agreed to take her to mom since it wasn't mom's weekend (if the police had shown up you could have showed them the court orders)...and then once you did agree to take her to her mom you ran an errand first...one that you could have easily run after you dropped her off.

Its time for YOU to step back and let your husband deal with things. Your husband needs to go get his child if its his time to have her...and call the police if mom refuses to release the child.

Your husband also needs to file for contempt....and ask the judge to order that all communicate take place in writing....snail mail or email.

Again, you need to step back. You made three bad decisions in the space of a couple of hours. Decisions that unnecessarily complicated the situation.
 

busybee04

Member
I didn't realize having child call mom would be a bad decision. Just trying to make everything run smoothly in regards to child being away from her. I agree I could have done my errand after the drop off, but it would have been out of my way. I was planning on leaving before that. It's not like I did it out of spite. They had left well before I got there regardless if I stopped or not.

After two hours at the Police Dept. tonight. The child came with us. I just can't get over how someone can sit there and lie right to your face over and over again. What does a person gain out of that?

Mom and Step dad were claiming that this afternoon they told child that Dad wasn't going to pay child support anymore and Dad wasn't going to bother them anymore. They said the child, 9 yrs. old, was jumping around for joy that she wasn't going to have to see us anymore.

When step dad and I were outside he was trying to talk me into signing over rights and he just wants what's best for the child. Are you serious! When it comes to who has more and what environment is better for the child we definately have the better end of the stick. The child said her Mom is always tearing her down about being with Dad, and once again she's crying about her Mom always yelling at her.

Well one good thing came out of all of this. The cop said just don't ever talk to her ever again, and believe me I NEVER will talk to her again. I don't care if she just needs one stupid little question answered.

I'm so greatful for a site like this. It's comforting even if I have made a bad decision, atleast I can learn from and not do it again. My heart feels blank hearing about my step daughter acting that way. I can't even imagine how my husband feels. Thanks for everything. Hopefully I won't have to post on here anymore. Good Luck to everyone!
 

kpepperz

Member
For the life of me, I cannot understand why you (as the stepmom) told the bio mom to come get the child during the dad's visitation anyway. IMO, that is only a call the dad should have made. You should have told the bm to call back when dad was home and discuss it with him, and drop it.
 
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legalcuriosity

Guest
kpepperz said:
For the life of me, I cannot understand why you (as the stepmom) told the bio mom to come get the child during the dad's visitation anyway. IMO, that is only a call the dad should have made. You should have told the bm to call back when dad was home and discuss it with him, and drop it.
You have to put yourself in the "other person's" shoes. The wife is going to defend her husband and vice versa. She felt she was doing the right thing and it sounds like it quickly spiraled out of control (the blame of THAT goes to the mom who threatened the stepmom). Yeah, she should've hung up, but let's all look at ourselves in the mirror. I'm sure we've all done a few things in our lifetimes in "emotional moments" and then look back at them and say "doh!" It seems she now knows. ;)
 

busybee04

Member
After Mom hung up the first time, I immediately called Dad at work. He said if she was threatening me with the cops just to take her home for the weekend. Give her what she wants so we don't have to play her games. We have never called the police on her or filed contempt charges against her because we feel that it would hurt the child. Mom on the other hand has called several times. Accusing my husband of harassment when she is withholding visitation and not allowing him to speak with his daughter for months at a time. Just last night, before we called their police department for assistance with pick up, she had called in saying that it wasn't Dad's scheduled time for him to come pick up the child and that we tried kidnapping the child on Friday night. Does it ever end? If it's not directed towards me it's directed towards Dad.
 

stealth2

Under the Radar Member
Again - remove yourself from the equation. This is an issue for Mom and Dad to deal with. Don't get stuck in the middle.
 
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legalcuriosity

Guest
busybee04 said:
After Mom hung up the first time, I immediately called Dad at work. He said if she was threatening me with the cops just to take her home for the weekend. Give her what she wants so we don't have to play her games. We have never called the police on her or filed contempt charges against her because we feel that it would hurt the child. Mom on the other hand has called several times. Accusing my husband of harassment when she is withholding visitation and not allowing him to speak with his daughter for months at a time. Just last night, before we called their police department for assistance with pick up, she had called in saying that it wasn't Dad's scheduled time for him to come pick up the child and that we tried kidnapping the child on Friday night. Does it ever end? If it's not directed towards me it's directed towards Dad.
And you need to have your husband make sure you are kept out of it, which means taking it to court. The next time this happens, make sure your husband has a copy of the agreement in his hand to show the Police.

The mom is obviously playing the 'mom card' thinking because she's the mom, the Police will automatically side with her. Having the Order there would've told the Police who the child goes with.

Your husband also needs to look into filing other charges against the mom as well for her antics of calling the Police, etc. I have some info on my other computer, so I'll look them up there later.

But your husband needs to stop letting that nutcase control things.
 

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