need help from ohio

[ruben3737]

(0hio) Does a paternal aunt have visitation rights even if the couple are not
married? the father is currently in prison for drug trafficking and has been in prison before
the baby was born. the mother has been found guilty of negelect, she had marijuan cocaine in her system before the baby was born.

she did not follow through with her meetings and was kick out of drug court. the baby
has been living with the maternal grand mother since he was 5months old,
he is now 1yearold. the aunt has a notarize letter from the father who is in prison stating that he has sign
over his parents right to his sister (*paternal aunt) the baby's mother
also has a ntarize letter stating that she gives total custody
to the maternal gradmother. currently children services has legal custody.
please help!! recently the mother hand an assesment done by the social worke and has found her to be post-
pardom depress. they have set her up with conseling and meetings and plan to medicate her. she allso has just landed a job and is stay clean as of now. please help!!

 

[angiesmom]

(0hio) Does a paternal aunt have visitation rights even if the couple are not
married?

]the father is currently in prison for drug trafficking and has been in prison before
the baby was born. the mother has been found guilty of negelect, she had marijuan cocaine in her system before the baby was born.

she did not foolow through with her meetings and was kick out of drug court. the baby
has been living with the maternal grand mother since he was 5months old,
he is now 1yearold. the aunt has a notarize letter stating that he has sign
over his parents right to his sister (*paternal aunt) the baby's mother
also has a ntarize letter stating that she gives total custody
to the maternal gradmother. [please help!!

No, aunts do not have any rights to their siblings children. Those letters aren't worth anything. This poor child...

 

[Neal1421]

(0hio) Does a paternal aunt have visitation rights even if the couple are not
married? the father is currently in prison for drug trafficking and has been in prison before
the baby was born. the mother has been found guilty of negelect, she had marijuan cocaine in her system before the baby was born.

she did not foolow through with her meetings and was kick out of drug court. the baby
has been living with the maternal grand mother since he was 5months old,
he is now 1yearold. the aunt has a notarize letter stating that he has sign
over his parents right to his sister (*paternal aunt) the baby's mother
also has a ntarize letter stating that she gives total custody
to the maternal gradmother. please help!!

If he has been in prison since before the baby was born, I am going to assume that paternity has not legally been established. (Correct me if I am wrong.) Since paternity has not been established, the father of the child has no rights to the child to sign over to anyone.

 

[ruben3737]

ruben from ohio

paternity has been establish through dna testing.

 

[Ohiogal]

(0hio) Does a paternal aunt have visitation rights even if the couple are not
married?

No. You have no rights to the child.

the father is currently in prison for drug trafficking and has been in prison before
the baby was born. the mother has been found guilty of negelect, she had marijuan cocaine in her system before the baby was born.


she did not follow through with her meetings and was kick out of drug court. the baby
has been living with the maternal grand mother since he was 5months old,
he is now 1yearold.

Who gave the maternal grandmother custody? CSB?

the aunt has a notarize letter from the father who is in prison stating that he has sign
over his parents right to his sister (*paternal aunt) the baby's mother
also has a ntarize letter stating that she gives total custody
to the maternal gradmother.


Notarized letters are worth nothing.Only a court order controls and in this situation I could guess that there is one.

currently children services has legal custody.


Bingo! Court order. CSB only has custody through a court order and THEY determine placement of children in their custody.

please help!! recently the mother hand an assesment done by the social worke and has found her to be post-
pardom depress. they have set her up with conseling and meetings and plan to medicate her. she allso has just landed a job and is stay clean as of now. please help!!

Child Services has custody. They determine who gets to keep the child and they have apparently decided it is the maternal grandmother. Your wishes do not overrule CSB in who should have temporary care. You could however petition the courts for temporary placement but the odds of them removing such a young child who has spent the majority of his life in one home are slim and none. You would have to prove that the placement with Grandma is not working and that she was unfit. CSB has found her fit at this juncture or baby wouldn't be there.

 

[Silverplum]

(0hio) Does a paternal aunt have visitation rights even if the couple are not
married? the father is currently in prison for drug trafficking and has been in prison before
the baby was born. the mother has been found guilty of negelect, she had marijuan cocaine in her system before the baby was born.

she did not follow through with her meetings and was kick out of drug court. the baby
has been living with the maternal grand mother since he was 5months old,
he is now 1yearold. the aunt has a notarize letter from the father who is in prison stating that he has sign
over his parents right to his sister (*paternal aunt) the baby's mother
also has a ntarize letter stating that she gives total custody
to the maternal gradmother. currently children services has legal custody.
please help!! recently the mother hand an assesment done by the social worke and has found her to be post-
pardom depress. they have set her up with conseling and meetings and plan to medicate her. she allso has just landed a job and is stay clean as of now. please help!!

Well, now that you've edited your post, I must respond. I find it most interesting that you avoided that extremely pertinent info the first time.

Do you think that it will HELP the mother to lose custody of her child at THIS point in time? Do you want to punish her some more?

She has been diagnosed with PPD. She is in counseling and on medication. She has a job and is clean.

What is your problem? Why would you take away the (no doubt) only reason Mom has for getting and staying clean??

 

[ruben3737]

need help from ohi

the problem is the case reviw is today and she just landed the job 3 days ago,
her social worker has not giver her urine test. children services has the maternal grandmother down as a temp caregiver. the paternal aunt calls at will wanting to take the baby every weekend and the social workers make the maternal grandmother do it,
even though in the temp caregiver packet clearly sataes she has visitation rights
twice per month

 

[Ohiogal]

the problem is the case reviw is today and she just landed the job 3 days ago,
her social worker has not giver her urine test. children services has the maternal grandmother down as a temp caregiver. the paternal aunt calls at will wanting to take the baby every weekend and the social workers make the maternal grandmother do it,
even though in the temp caregiver packet clearly sataes she has visitation rights
twice per month

Here is the thing: CSB is a world upon themselves. They can make the rules when the kids are in their custody. If Maternal Grandmother is temporary caregiver then CSB is looking at reunification if mom completes her caseplan. Paternal aunt is given visitation by CSB. Maternal grandmother does not have custody -- she is the caregiver. That is a different ballgame. CSB as the legal custodian of the child is allowed to state who gets visitation. It has nothing to do with the notarized papers. And who the heck are you in this entire story because truthfully it is NOT your business if you are not mom, grandma, or aunt.

 

[ruben3737]

thanks, that really makes sense. I'am grandpa . here is an update. the case reviwe went forward. the paternal aunt did not attend. basicly they slam the mother for everything
that happen in the past. however, they did not have any current information about her assesment which found out that she was ppd and she is in counseling twice a week.
she juts got a job a few days prior to the case review, and one of the social worker
team members told her that she does not need a job that she should go into
a in-house drug program, however, her assesment counsler told her that
was not needed but the socila worker team member wants her to have are-assesment because she does not agree. now the mother is doing things right and still seems like
its not enough! they also told her that the only reason she is even making an attempt is
because the aunt wants the baby. is this proffessional behavior?

 

[Ohiogal]

thanks, that really makes sense. I'am grandpa .


Okay Grandpa.

here is an update. the case reviwe went forward. the paternal aunt did not attend. basicly they slam the mother for everything
that happen in the past.

Because the mother had a problem and apparently did not take care of it until the state interceded. If then.


however, they did not have any current information about her assesment which found out that she was ppd and she is in counseling twice a week.


When did counseling start? How long has she been attending counseling FAITHFULLY? What does HER caseplan say about counseling.

she juts got a job a few days prior to the case review, and one of the social worker
team members told her that she does not need a job that she should go into
a in-house drug program, however, her assesment counsler told her that
was not needed but the socila worker team member wants her to have are-assesment because she does not agree.

Again, what does her case plan say? How long has the case plan been in effect? How long has mom had to get her stuff together? Does she attend supervised visitation with the children?

now the mother is doing things right and still seems like
its not enough! they also told her that the only reason she is even making an attempt is
because the aunt wants the baby. is this proffessional behavior?

How long has mom had a case plan and "been doing things right"? If she has the case plan for a year and just started doing things in the last month or so then that is a MAJOR problem. Professional behavior? Yes it could be. Does mom have an attorney?

 

[ruben3737]

yes, she has just started doing things the right way within the last month.
her original case plan was to attend meetings such as AA and stay clean, which she
did not do effectively. however, my concern is that grandma is not being treated
fairly in this case. it seem that when ever she has a point the social worker or team members just stay quiet and move on. on the other hand when ever the
paternal aunt speaks everything is taken automaticlly as fact and follwed through. NO she
does not have a attorney. the mother does visit the baby (supervised) at the house. this case has been open
since about OCT 2005. as far as what couseling saids, I don't know, I do know that they did not even have this info
in her files, even though she is going.