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Need some help for my grandad

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What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? VA

I have a question about children being able to inherit property from their parents versus the spouse.

The situation is that my grandfather wants to make sure that when he passes away his current wife is able to keep the house and car (he doesn’t have anything else) and that his children (my mother and uncle) do not lay any claim to the house and car. My mother has already agreed to this since my grandfathers current wife is the one who has been there on a daily basis to take care of him. However, my uncle seems to think that the house is “his” and that he is “entitled” to it (A little background – for several years by uncle has been ruining my grandfathers credit by convincing him to co-sign on loans for cars and houses that are always being reposed/foreclosed – but that’s another story).

My grandfather is perfectly capable of making rational decisions on his own (yes - I know he used bad judgement when co-signing for my uncle, but that's another story) and the reason that this is going on now is because my uncle recently defaulted on another home loan, leaving my grandfather to deal with the foreclosure and it has completely stressed him out. He’s also not getting any younger (85) and wants to plan for the well being of his current wife (57). (FYI - I say “current” wife because she is not the mother of my grandfather’s children)

The house and car in question were purchased after my grandmother (the mother of his children) died so my uncle wouldn’t be able to lay any claim to the property based on inheritance from his mother, but what we are wondering is would it be enough to simply add my grandfather’s wife’s name to the house deed (do a quit-claim deed to add another owner) and add her name as an owner on the car title? Or can my uncle still come back and say he is entitled to my grandfather’s “share” of the property. If that is the case, would my grandfather have to specifically put in his will that his “share” of the property is to go to his wife and not his children?

Note he wouldn't be able to put everything in his wife's name because there is still a little bit of money owed for each (the loans would be paid in full with the little bit of life insurance money that my grandfather has if there is still a balance owed when he passes away).

Thanks in advance for your advice.
 


anteater

Senior Member
Except in Louisiana, and only under some circumstances there, children have no inherent right to inherit from parents. Your mother and/or uncle "agreeing" simply is not relevant.

If I remember correctly with regard to the house, the lender cannot raise an objection to adding a spouse to title. Not sure about the car.

Heck, your grandfather should do both: add spouse to title and make a will.

Or can my uncle still come back and say he is entitled to my grandfather’s “share” of the property. If that is the case, would my grandfather have to specifically put in his will that his “share” of the property is to go to his wife and not his children?
A couple things:

If he is adding spouse to title, he should be certain that a right of survivorship is included. That would ensure that the property transfers by operation of law rather than having to go through probate.

Even if one intends to not leave anything to children in a will, it is best to acknowledge the children and state that he is not leaving them anything.

No matter what, your uncle can stomp his feet and object to just about any estate planning action. About all one can do is to make one's wishes so explicit that the person whining/stomping their feet/holding their breath/threatening legal action realizes that any legal action would be a waste of their time and money.


Does your grandfather realize that, if the spouse inherits when he passes away, she can then dispose of any property as she sees fit? Is he OK with that?
 
Thanks for the information. Does the "right of survivorship" go on the deed?

As far as his wife doing whatever she wants with the property - that has already come up and made clear that she can do whatever she wants with the property (especially since she might end up moving out of the country once he passes away).

thanks.
 
right of survivorship

When I added my husband to the deed of my property via a quit-claim deed this is what it said:

“That for and in consideration of the sum of $10, cash in hand paid, the receipt of which is hereby acknowledged, grantor, does herby quitclaim, release and convey unto the grantee, as tenants by the entirety with the full common law right of survivorship, all right title and interest the grantor has in and to all of the following property described……”

Is this what he needs to do?
 

anteater

Senior Member
I don't want to say yes or no to the exact wording of the title in Virginia. I suggest that he have a real estate attorney prepare the deed. (Besides getting the wording right, the attorney can serve as confirmation that your grandfather was competent and acting of his own free will if your uncle later objects.)

Without comment/endorsement, I found this from a title company in VA with a quick search:

http://www.hazelwoodtitle.com/tenancy.html
 
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Thanks

the plan is to do everything via a lawyer, i just wanted to make sure i understood what needed to be done before i told my grandfather.
 

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