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beyondweb

Junior Member
What is the name of your state?What is the name of your state? California

My boyfriend and I own a townhouse in Antioch that we rent out to a tenant and her two children. We've already served a 3 Day Notice to Pay or Rent for June's rent that was due the 1st. The deadline for the Notice was Friday and no rent was received. We're nervous that the tenant will make this a long drawn-out process and claim that we're "retaliating." One lawfirm that specializes in evictions actually told me that this type of aggressive tenant could potentially cause us to incur very high attorney's fees -- many times more than the monthly rent. She suggested that I visit this site and recommended a few books that would allow us to evict the tenant ourselves.

Below, I cut-and-paste the summary of events (written from my boyfriend's perspective) that we've already prepared for our expected day in court.

April 15 – Disclosed current state of floor to tenant who agreed it didn’t need repair at that time.

May 9 – Tenant claimed the floor needed repair but didn’t provide details.

May 14 – Flooring professional failed to show at scheduled time to provide an estimate of the damage.

May 17 – I called the Tenant to provide 24 hour notice of entry so that I could personally assess the damage claim. Tenant refused entry and instead insisted that she would provide me the details I needed – measurements and pictures.

May 24 – I had to get in touch with the Tenant because I hadn’t heard from her for a week. I again asked for the details of the claimed damage. She told me the next day that she would “be sure to send that information off to me in the morning.” I didn’t receive them as promised.

May 27 – Tenant finally provided pictures; however, the measurements were still missing. Tenant assured me that she “would call me with the measurements tonight as she forgot those at home.”

May 31 – I had to get in touch with the Tenant because, again, I hadn’t heard from her as she had promised. I specifically asked for the dimensions of the damage for the 3rd time.

June 1 – Tenant wrote that she would give me the measurements “when she got home” today. Rent was due today, but I didn't receive it.

June 2 – Tenant informed me today (the day after rent is due) that she felt I had taken too long to repair the damage and that she would “repair and deduct.” She now suddenly claimed that the floor was a safety issue, inhabitable, in need of emergency repair and also that I was verbally aware of the needed repair on April 25 (even tho I wasn't). She also claimed that she now felt I was unreasonable in requesting the exact details of the damage, even tho she continued to tell me clear up until yesterday that she would provide me the measurements.

June 4 - I arrived at the townhouse with my girlfriend [name] (who assists with managing the townhouse), and [name], a California contractor, to act as witnesses. We all observed that the floor was in need of repair, but it was not an emergency nor was it a safety issue as the tenant had claimed. Because of the tenants threats on June 2nd and also because she never provided the measurements as she had promised on 3 different occassions, I didn’t attempt to fix the damaged areas. Instead, work began to rip up the parquet off the entire living room floor and install carpet in its place. Tenant unreasonably asked all workers to leave around 1pm even tho the floor was now in a dangerous state -- small pieces of parquet and wire stuck to the glue on the floor.

June 6 – Carpet installation complete.

June 7 – 3 Day Notice to Pay or Quit served to Tenant. Tenant emailed me and stated that she would not personally deliver the rent, as we demanded in the notice, but would mail it.

June 10 – 3 Day Notice deadline. Tenant did not pay rent for the month of June, which was due June 1st.

The majority of our communication with the tenant was via email.

We no longer care about the rent. We are ready to evict this tenant.

I'm very good with details and, at one time in the not too distant past, regularly filed business documents for attorneys. Can I do this eviction myself? Do judges take landlords more seriously when they have an attorney present? Are we obligated to wait for the rent in the mail to be delivered (although we suspect she never mailed it)?

Thanks for reading and any advice!
Monica
 


ENASNI

Senior Member
Holy Moly and his cousin Crimoly!

You have many questions in your thread. I am going to focus on one or two and let my confederates jump in at any time.

I am worried right now about the status of the floor, it was not a problem before, but if those carpet layers do not finish it it could be considered hazardous. Get in there ASAP and get that done, before you start anything. (this is all my opinion, you will get others ) With two children in the house, this person is going to use that to her advatage.

She could hold the situation as retaliatory, and she could make you ring up a big old bill. She is taking pictures RIGHT NOW of the floor!

I do not mean to make you worry any further, but You need to get written documentation from the workers that they were not allowed to finish, that they failed the appointment and so forth.
Okay, thats long enough so far, others will jump in I am sure and I need to re-group, re-read your post and see what else I can come up with.

Phew you are detailed! :)

http://www.dca.ca.gov/legal/landlordbook/
http://www.dca.ca.gov/legal/landlordbook/retalitory-actions.htm
 
June 6 – Carpet installation complete.
Yes you can evict yourself. Wish you had more of a papertrail, but you definitely seem to have a solid case. Rent needs to be paid by the end of the 3 days, if they choose to get it to you by a slow process, that is their fault.

Yes they can try some kind of retaliation move on you, but if it's comming it's comming, better to get them out now and deal with what comes of it.
 

FarmerJ

Senior Member
you should check with the clerk of the court since your in Contra Costa county to see if they have a booklet about evictions to help you through the process . and as you were told get the work completed &Stop allowing the tenant to deny access btw also STOP using emails and use written communications with the tenant sent certified mail . YOUR tenant is playing a game so its time to use the game back and let it bite them in the butt . Any repair people who come when scheduled with notice and are denied , you might ask them to provide to you letters documenting the denied entry . AND so you know if you have safety issues going on in many states you dont have to provide extended notice , your state govt web page links for LL/T can guide you on that .
 

beyondweb

Junior Member
The carpet installation was completed on June 6th so that's already out of the way. You're right Devedanader, better to get them out now and just deal with what comes, sooner than later.

After speaking with an attorney today and reading the comments here, we're going to do the eviction ourselves. Regardless of everything that's happened, most likely, the judge will focus on the fact that rent was due and it wasn't paid, even at the end of the 3 Day Notice.
 

ENASNI

Senior Member
Oops

beyondweb said:
The carpet installation was completed on June 6th so that's already out of the way.
Sorry, missed that part, good to know
Regardless of everything that's happened, most likely, the judge will focus on the fact that rent was due and it wasn't paid, even at the end of the 3 Day Notice.
Go get em, Monica. Good luck and keep us updated!
 

beyondweb

Junior Member
Great! The tenant emailed us today to inform us that her father mailed a check for the June rent on June 8th and, yes, he does have a receipt proving that he mailed it. She's supposedly faxing me the receipt tomorrow AM. The 3 Day Notice to Pay Rent or Quit had a June 10th deadline and, in the notice, we demanded that she personally provide the rent money to us at a specific address during specific hours.

Anyone know how to handle this situation? Are we required to accept it if there is proof that it was mailed on June 8th? As of today, we haven't received anything from her or her father and was planning on moving forward with the UD.
 

ENASNI

Senior Member
well

beyondweb said:
Great! The tenant emailed us today to inform us that her father mailed a check for the June rent on June 8th and, yes, he does have a receipt proving that he mailed it. She's supposedly faxing me the receipt tomorrow AM. The 3 Day Notice to Pay Rent or Quit had a June 10th deadline and, in the notice, we demanded that she personally provide the rent money to us at a specific address during specific hours.

Anyone know how to handle this situation? Are we required to accept it if there is proof that it was mailed on June 8th? As of today, we haven't received anything from her or her father and was planning on moving forward with the UD.
You have two choices, accept the rent and then proceed with either a 30 day notice or 60 day notice (depending on how long she has been there).

Do not accept the rent, proof of mailing is not the same thing as having the money in your had. It is the 14th right? I know that we have snail mail, but this is ridiculous. Have they never heard of Federal Express, Western Union?

Do you want the money? Will it be a check that could bounce? Is it guaranteed funds? Are you ready to go on to UD and wash your hands clean of her and really feel like you can win?. They thing is they will have the fact that they "tried" and sometimes the courts look at that. You have to sit back and think.
You may want to accept the rent. You can't go with a UD after that 3-day but then serve the appropriate notice 30/60 and go from there.
If others have there opinion they will help you out. Sheesh these are really some tenants, huh?
 
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FarmerJ

Senior Member
this late in the game if the 72 hours has past proceed to get them out any way , Emails are not yet considered to be provable methods of communications for legal purposes , courts give more value to things written and sent the old fashioned way . My guess is that they are trying to stall you any way they can . and unless its a cashiers check that is from a bank EN is right the damn thing can bounce . BTW now im curious what does a 3 br house rent for out there now , I lived in Bethel Island years ago and am curious what the rents are like out there now .
 

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