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Never on Sunday????

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bigun

Senior Member
What is the name of your state?
There's a fellow on another site with way to much time on his hands. He's delved into the FTC archives and claims to have found many hundreds of FDCPA and FCRA opinion letters. Here's one of 'em.
Anybody think it'll hold water?


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Staff: May 22, 1980


Basil J. Mezines, Esquire
Stein Mitchell & Mezines
FEDERAL TRADE COMM)SStON
WASHtNGTON. D. C. 20580
BUREAU OF
CONSUMER PROTECTION

1800 M Street, Northwest
Washington, D. C. 20036


Dear Mr. Mezines:
This will respond to your letter dated May 19, 1980 inquiring
about the application of Section 805(a) of the Fair Debt
Collection Practices Act ("Act") to a situation in which a debt
collector communicates with a consumer in connection with the
collection of a debt on Sunday. It is your position that
inasmuch as that section makes no reference to what day or days
of the week might be inconvenient, Sunday may be an appropriate
day for such contact unless the debt collector has information
indicating it to be inconvenient for the consumer.

While the statute is not specific on this point, we believe that
a reasonable reading of the language of the statute would not
permit the communication. One could hardly consider Sunday as
being a normal business day particularly for engaging in the
business of collecting debts. Generally, most corporate or other
business offices are closed on Sunday and it would be a most
extreme and unusual case to find "business as usual" on a day
when most observe religious or other normal breaks from a full
business week.

You will note that the statute prohibits such communications at
any unusual time or at a time known or which should be known to
be inconvenient. It is our opinion that dunning a consumer on
Sunday would qualify as a communication at an "unusual time"
and that this fact should be known by the debt collector to be
inconvenient to the consumer.

The views expressed are informal in nature and as such are not
binding on the Commission. Nevertheless, they do represent the
staff's present enforcement position.


Very truly yours,
(^SL^).^^-^
Alan D. Reffkin
Attorney
Division of Credit Practices

:)
 


racer72

Senior Member
The letter is one person's opinion, it holds no legal authority. And the FDCPA specific limits contact to specific times of the day, not the day of the week. Just to claim that a specific day would be unusual because it is not considered a normal business day doesn't hold any water. One could also claim that anything after 6 pm is not part of a normal business day too. In today's world, commerce happens 24/7. For the debt collection industry, it is a 13/7 world.
 

Ladynred

Senior Member
I dunno about 'hundreds' of opinion letters, but the Mezines letter is out there with the rest on the FTC web site.

It believe it WILL hold water IF the person being harrassed notifies the CA that Sunday is 'inconvenient', as the FDCPA DOES say a collector must cease if notified - just like calling you at work:

§ 805. Communication in connection with debt collection [15 USC 1692c]

(a) COMMUNICATION WITH THE CONSUMER GENERALLY. Without the prior consent of the consumer given directly to the debt collector or the express permission of a court of competent jurisdiction, a debt collector may not communicate with a consumer in connection with the collection of any debt --

(1) at any unusual time or place or a time or place known or which should be known to be inconvenient to the consumer.
 

bigun

Senior Member
But, look at the date on the letter. 1980. I'll have to ask for the link. The earliest letters I've found on the FTC site are from 1988. He claims to have found some from 1978-79.
I agree Racer. The world has changed just a bit from 1980. Would like to see what a ca did if they got hit with that one. Hell, they likely haven't seen it either!
 

Ladynred

Senior Member
You have a point, I didn't notice the date on the letter. By all means, get the link, I'd like to see this stuff for myself as well.
 

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