Not addressing an argument in Repsone to Motion for Reconsideration

[quincy]

I don't think the stats will matter much even in Brooklyn because of the number of cases that stop being handled pro se, either from walking away or getting a lawyer, once they get educated somewhat.

Possibly. It really depends on the merit of a case,

 

[quincy]

Following is a link to a US Courts 2015 publication on pro se clinics and pro se litigants, speaking of the Brooklyn Clinic (after which the Detroit Clinic was patterned).

"Pro Se Centers Help Even the Odds for Litigants Without Lawyers:"
https://www.uscourts.gov/news/2015/08/20/pro-se-centers-help-even-odds-litigants-without-lawyers
I can get information on the Detroit clinic Monday or Tuesday next week - not that any of this helps Joe.

 

[PayrollHRGuy]

Possibly. It really depends on the merit of a case,

Exactly. Lots of litigants, in such a clinic, will be told that they have no case or come to the understanding that they are over their head and either drop the case or hire a lawyer. Which will mess the stats.

 

[quincy]

Exactly. Lots of litigants, in such a clinic, will be told that they have no case or come to the understanding that they are over their head and either drop the case or hire a lawyer. Which will mess the stats.

The stats will not be messed up. The stats you want are how well pro se litigants do in court - not how well they do in a pro se clinic before they go to court.

You might explore the resources on this NCSC page: https://ncsc.org/topics/access-and-fairness/self-representation/resource-guide.aspx