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allanb

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I am in California. I will try and keep this as concise as possible.
A grievance complaint was filed against me with my local board of Realtors by a disgruntled Buyer. It was over 6 broken roof tiles. The Buyer did a paper dump and submitted over 600 pages of "Evidence": I objected to no avail. Part of the complaint alleged my filling out 2 pages of the contract incorrectly which I acknowledged was a clerical error on my part, my Broker did not notice the errors and it had absolutely no impact on the Buyer financially at all. All of the other allegations were complete lies and I submitted my response to the complaint with all my documentation. The hearing panel found me guilty of all violations, they were obviously confused by the paper dump because 2 of the allegations against me were actually something the Buyer did and not me. I appealed, The Buyer responded to my appeal and out of the blue admitted that it was stated clearly to him that he had filed beyond the 180-day deadline but was given an exception due to the Preponderance of evidence against me. The NAR ethics manual states that once a complaint is filed it must be immediately submitted to the Grievance Committee Chairman. So he lied! I asked my Association as he had confessed to being late that the whole matter should be dropped, they refused. All correspondence that I then sent to my board was forwarded to their lawyer who refused to drop it, furthermore, he said it was new evidence and was not allowed even though in my appeal I was stating that my due process had been violated and according to the NAR Ethics manual on a due process violation new evidence "IS" allowed.
At my appeal, I was shut down and not allowed to present any of my evidence as I was told that is not what the appeal process was all about! Also, the Association's Lawyer was present even though he was not allowed to be there per the association's form that listed all parties that would be in attendance that was required 15 days prior to the Appeals Hearing date. In my opinion, I was being railroaded and made a scapegoat due to their mishandling of the case. Now as the Buyer feels vindicated, he is now suing me. I want to sue the bejeezus out of my Association. Based on what I have written here do you think I am justified in doing so?
BTW: as a side note during this whole process I was diagnosed with Prostate Cancer, had surgery and the Cancer is still there but manageable at this time. and stress is not good for me but nobody gave a crap.
Thanks in Advance Al.
Feel free to pose any questions you may have
 


zddoodah

Active Member
A grievance complaint was filed against me with my local board of Realtors by a disgruntled Buyer.
I'm not sure what it means to file a "grievance complaint . . . with [a] local board of Realtors," but a "board of Realtors" has no authority over anyone (with the possible exception of a realtor).

Now as the Buyer feels vindicated, he is now suing me. I want to sue the bejeezus out of my Association. Based on what I have written here do you think I am justified in doing so?
What is the buyer suing you for? Regardless, I don't know what "my Association" refers to or why you think you might have a legal claim against that entity, but if I were you, I'd be more concerned about the buyer suing you.
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
I want to sue the bejeezus out of my Association. Based on what I have written here do you think I am justified in doing so?
As far as I can tell, that is the only question you have.
Your matter is complex, but based on what you have written, my gut feeling is that you likely have no grounds to sue. You will need to avail yourself of whatever dispute resolution process is in place with your association.
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
I'm not sure what it means to file a "grievance complaint . . . with [a] local board of Realtors," but a "board of Realtors" has no authority over anyone (with the possible exception of a realtor).
I agree that the post isn't very clear, but I suspect that the OP *is* a Realtor.
 

quincy

Senior Member
I am in California. I will try and keep this as concise as possible.
A grievance complaint was filed against me with my local board of Realtors by a disgruntled Buyer. It was over 6 broken roof tiles. The Buyer did a paper dump and submitted over 600 pages of "Evidence": I objected to no avail. Part of the complaint alleged my filling out 2 pages of the contract incorrectly which I acknowledged was a clerical error on my part, my Broker did not notice the errors and it had absolutely no impact on the Buyer financially at all. All of the other allegations were complete lies and I submitted my response to the complaint with all my documentation. The hearing panel found me guilty of all violations, they were obviously confused by the paper dump because 2 of the allegations against me were actually something the Buyer did and not me. I appealed, The Buyer responded to my appeal and out of the blue admitted that it was stated clearly to him that he had filed beyond the 180-day deadline but was given an exception due to the Preponderance of evidence against me. The NAR ethics manual states that once a complaint is filed it must be immediately submitted to the Grievance Committee Chairman. So he lied! I asked my Association as he had confessed to being late that the whole matter should be dropped, they refused. All correspondence that I then sent to my board was forwarded to their lawyer who refused to drop it, furthermore, he said it was new evidence and was not allowed even though in my appeal I was stating that my due process had been violated and according to the NAR Ethics manual on a due process violation new evidence "IS" allowed.
At my appeal, I was shut down and not allowed to present any of my evidence as I was told that is not what the appeal process was all about! Also, the Association's Lawyer was present even though he was not allowed to be there per the association's form that listed all parties that would be in attendance that was required 15 days prior to the Appeals Hearing date. In my opinion, I was being railroaded and made a scapegoat due to their mishandling of the case. Now as the Buyer feels vindicated, he is now suing me. I want to sue the bejeezus out of my Association. Based on what I have written here do you think I am justified in doing so?
BTW: as a side note during this whole process I was diagnosed with Prostate Cancer, had surgery and the Cancer is still there but manageable at this time. and stress is not good for me but nobody gave a crap.
Thanks in Advance Al.
Feel free to pose any questions you may have
Did you lose your real estate license as a result of the complaint?
 

allanb

Junior Member
I'm not sure what it means to file a "grievance complaint . . . with [a] local board of Realtors," but a "board of Realtors" has no authority over anyone (with the possible exception of a realtor).



What is the buyer suing you for? Regardless, I don't know what "my Association" refers to or why you think you might have a legal claim against that entity, but if I were you, I'd be more concerned about the buyer suing you.
I am a Realtor, sorry, I thought that was evident by my post, but looking at it, I realize it wasn't. The reason the Buyer is suing me is because he feels justified by the decision rendered by the Grievance Committee of my local Board Of Realtors. My due process was totally violated per the National Association of Realtor's ethics complaint manual, my appeal and supporting documentation was completely ignored. They made procedural mistakes, they know it, and are afraid that I will sue them but think that I won't because it's just such a hassle and I will go away quietly and not proceed further. They think that I am just going to go away even though I made it clear to them that the Buyer would sue me, which he is now doing unless they listened to my appeal. They did not allow me to present my evidence that I am allowed to do at an appeals hearing, in other words, they made huge mistakes, will not admit to it and now I am stuck with a lawsuit from the buyer based on a ruling that is totally false. They don't care. A grievance complaint is a process that an entity in a transaction can file with the local board of Realtors if he/she thinks that the Realtor acted in an unethical manner. The Buyer is suing me for Pain & Suffering in a small claims suit. I did not lose my Real Estate license, he filed a DRE complaint and I was cleared of any wrong doing.
 
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Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
I am a Realtor, sorry, I thought that was evident by my post, but looking at it, I realize it wasn't. The reason the Buyer is suing me is because he feels justified by the decision rendered by the Grievance Committee of my local Board Of Realtors. My due process was totally violated per the National Association of Realtor's ethics complaint manual, my appeal and supporting documentation was completely ignored. They made procedural mistakes, they know it, and are afraid that I will sue them but think that I won't because it's just such a hassle and I will go away quietly and not proceed further. They think that I am just going to go away even though I made it clear to them that the Buyer would sue me, which he is now doing unless they listened to my appeal. They did not allow me to present my evidence that I am allowed to do at an appeals hearing, in other words, they made huge mistakes, will not admit to it and now I am stuck with a lawsuit from the buyer based on a ruling that is totally false. They don't care. A grievance complaint is a process that an entity in a transaction can file with the local board of Realtors if he/she thinks that the Realtor acted in an unethical manner. The Buyer is suing me for Pain & Suffering in a small claims suit. I did not lose my Real Estate license, he filed a DRE complaint and I was cleared of any wrong doing.
A couple of things:

First - the guy is crazy if he thinks that "pain and suffering" applies in this sort of situation.
Second - You really can't show that the reason you are being sued is that you lost the appeal. The reason you are being sued is that the guy feels he was wronged. As such, you really don't have a case against the Board of Realtors insofar as the lawsuit is concerned.
 

allanb

Junior Member
A couple of things:

First - the guy is crazy if he thinks that "pain and suffering" applies in this sort of situation.
Second - You really can't show that the reason you are being sued is that you lost the appeal. The reason you are being sued is that the guy feels he was wronged. As such, you really don't have a case against the Board of Realtors insofar as the lawsuit is concerned.
You got it, this guy is a psychopath, remember this is over 8 broken roof tiles and has been going on for 4 years! The reason that I have a possible lawsuit against the Board of Realtors is they have to follow the ethics rules procedure per the manual that us Realtors have to follow. They did not do that, I mean the guy actually admits in writing that he was told clearly that he filed his complaint beyond the 180 day deadline. But the Greivance committee allowed him to continue, which is a total violation of my rights according to their own rules. And they just blew it off.
 

quincy

Senior Member
You got it, this guy is a psychopath, remember this is over 8 broken roof tiles and has been going on for 4 years! The reason that I have a possible lawsuit against the Board of Realtors is they have to follow the ethics rules procedure per the manual that us Realtors have to follow. They did not do that, I mean the guy actually admits in writing that he was told clearly that he filed his complaint beyond the 180 day deadline. But the Greivance committee allowed him to continue, which is a total violation of my rights according to their own rules. And they just blew it off.
What amount of money is being asked for in the complaint? Was your Broker also named as a party?
 

allanb

Junior Member
What amount of money is being asked for in the complaint? Was your Broker also named as a party?
$10,000 dollars, Broker not named in the complaint, entirely for pain and suffering and court fees and lawyer costs. It is a small claims lawsuit. Remember, I am not worried about his lawsuit, I want to sue my board of Realtors for screwing up the whole process that gave him the feeling that he can sue me. I am confident that I will win the lawsuit, I am just outraged that my board of realtors totally denied me my due process that gave him the feeling that he has a right to sue me. Its not about him, its about the board denying my due process in the original complaint. I am so pissed off that I want to sue them to the full extent of the law.
 
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adjusterjack

Senior Member
I'm confused. There is no "Board" of Realtors in California. There is the California Department of Real Estate which licenses and regulates real estate agents. And there is the California Association of Realtors and numerous regional associations which are essentially trade associations. You referred to "my association" a few times so I'm guessing that this was an administrative complaint and your association sided with the buyer.

As a member I imagine you agreed to quite a few things by joining. I don't know what but I'm guessing it would limit your ability to sue. Consult an attorney about that and review your options.

Meantime, a small claims lawsuit against you for money has nothing to do with what the association did. You need to properly respond to that lawsuit. To that end I suggest you study the California courts self help pages about small claims court:

https://www.courts.ca.gov/selfhelp-smallclaims.htm

Did you get served with one of these?

https://www.courts.ca.gov/documents/sc100.pdf
 

PayrollHRGuy

Senior Member
The reason that I have a possible lawsuit against the Board of Realtors is they have to follow the ethics rules procedure per the manual that us Realtors have to follow.
Those ethics rules aren't laws so they really don't have to follow them, Had you lost your membership and that caused you to lose your income, then you would have some grounds to sue them.
 
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