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Cablekid

Junior Member
What is the name of your state? North Carolina


This may be a silly question..

But in this game Diablo 2.. Their are some sites that sell items in the game that are hard to get.

Well some sites sell Fake items. Items that are Duplicated in the game but dissapper when the game dose a sweep.

If someone buys from a site that sells dupe items and it dissapperes can any action be taking against that site?
 


Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
What is the name of your state? North Carolina


This may be a silly question..

But in this game Diablo 2.. Their are some sites that sell items in the game that are hard to get.

Well some sites sell Fake items. Items that are Duplicated in the game but dissapper when the game dose a sweep.

If someone buys from a site that sells dupe items and it dissapperes can any action be taking against that site?
Does Diablo 2 allow such "sales"?
What do the web site terms of service that you buy them from say?
 

SnowCajun

Member
This may be a silly question..
But in this game Diablo 2.. Their are some sites that sell items in the game that are hard to get.
Well some sites sell Fake items. Items that are Duplicated in the game but dissapper when the game dose a sweep.
If someone buys from a site that sells dupe items and it dissapperes can any action be taking against that site?
Actually I don't think that question to be silly. If that's what happened then you've been defrauded, be it a virtual item or a real item, theft is still theft, and selling you something they know will be wiped after you use it is nothing short of fraud! They're fully aware that after they get your money and you use the item that it'll disappear on you and they will have gained from your real world money and you will have lost your virtual item. People who don't play online games indepth find it hard to understand the value of such things and make little of it, but I know how valuable certain items can be for your gaming. Many people put more hours a day into gaming than others do working, so what they've gained through their time and efforts in the game can be valuable to them, surprisingly valuable, more so than many people would expect.

I'm familiar with Diablo, and Diablo II, I played it many years ago and have a friend in Houston who still plays it religiously .. lol .. okay so "religiously" and "diablo" don't go together, but still you didn't get what you paid for if the item was represented as being real, but was instead dupe'd.

I guess the main issue would be how close you are to the seller and if it's worth your time and effort compared to what you spent to pursue this against this guy. If game items are illegal to sell, as was suggested by someone else, then the guy is still at fault, I'm not sure where you'd stand for purchasing something like that, but I feel any judge looking at something like this should still be able to see that this guy defrauded you by selling you something he knew to be duped and knew would disappear after he got your real life money for the item.

Good luck with your problem, I'd love to see how this goes with a judge. I would hope for one who is young and very computer literate. Not all old fogies understand computers and many think they're only silly things anyway. I'm 55 so I can safely use the "old fogie" statement .. lol!

SnowCajun
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
OP was involved in an illegal act when he was "defrauded".

And, as for not understanding...this is coming from someone who has owned/administered/played online multi-player games for a decade.
 

SnowCajun

Member
OP was involved in an illegal act when he was "defrauded".
Blizzard seems to not care, I spoke with a customer service agent last night regarding that because I'm familiar with the game. I've seen Diablo II items selling on eBay for many years now, and there are numerous web pages dedicated solely for the sale of such items. It appears many of the gaming companies are changing their views on that, even The Sims Online allows their virtual items to be bought and sold online. Personally I think they're wrong in doing so because that allows more fortunate people to gain unearned advantages over other fair players, but it's their game and if they choose to allow that I normally won't support them.

And, as for not understanding...this is coming from someone who has owned/administered/played online multi-player games for a decade.
Zigner, believe it or not that comment was not directed at you, sorry you took it that way. Often older people don't understand why the younger generation would spend real life money on virtual items, and unless you've played these games at length, as you have, then it's often hard to imagine the kind of money people would spend on some of the rarest of rare virtual game items!

Never the less Blizzard openly stated that Cablekid was not involved in an "illegal act", so obviously that means he was actually defrauded by someone knowing how the system worked and that by taking his real life money he'd eventually lose his item to the game cleaning up itself during its maintenance phase. I've seen well over $1000.00 spent before on eBay for some virtual items, it's not uncommon, people are willing to do so.

SnowCajun
 

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