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abaga

Member
What is the name of your state? Georgia

I apologize for the length..just don't want to leave anything out.

I was dx'ed with Rheumatoid Arthritis last year. I have been on several medications. My Rheumatologist and I finally found a medication that works and works well...for a short period of time. The normal dosing is one injection q 2 weeks. At or about 10 days, the pain of the RA returns. I sent a message to the Drs. office via an online website the Drs. office uses for communication. The nurse sent back a message stating I could increase the medication to q 10 days as per the MD. I wrote back stating I would need a new Rx with the change in frequency. He told me he would do this. Due to the cost of this medication, it has to be handled through a mail order pharmacy. When I called the mail order pharmacy to check on the medication, they told me they did not have a new Rx! This all occured a week before my next dose was due (the mail order pharmacy I have to use can overnight the Rx to you, so no need to order anything weeks in advance...in fact, they prefer you not do that).

I called the Drs. office to find out what was going on. The nurse then informs me the Dr. would not refill the medication or change the frequency since I was a no show 7 times! This is NOT true. After arguing with the nurse (he would not, rather could not provide the dates of these supposed no shows), I was able to speak with the office manager who stated I did NOT have a single no show. In fact, I was able to account for each appointment, even including the dates and times I went in for bloodwork. I was then told the medication would be called in.

Well, I call the pharmacy again only to find nothing had been called or faxed over to them. I was in excrutiating pain, but could do nothing at all as this was Friday evening at this point. I was not even able to use my hand. The pharmacy did send me one dose to at least get me started again, but informed me, this was not going to work immediately, which I was aware of already.

I went to the MD the next week for my appointment. I told them what had transpired and wondered why the MD refused my medication. This is where the fun begins. He NEVER refused the medication..in fact, he signed off on it the same day the pharmacy faxed over the orders!!!!! The orders even showed the updated Rx!! When the office manager asked the nurse why he didn't fax over the order with the MDs signature, he said, "I didn't know if she used the Pen or the Syringe!" Well, if you check the chart, or better yet, call the pharmacy, you will find the answer, and quickly!!!!!

The PA came in to see me first (The Dr. was in the hospital with an emergency). I explained to her all that was happening and the sharp increase in my pain. She then informed me they have been having problems with this nurse and she couldn't apologize enough for what occured. She noted the swelling in my index finger and the immobility. She knew just from looking at me the pain I was in.

The Dr. then comes in and starts apologizing to me. He told me this is NOT the first time this nurse has done this to a patient but it will be the last!! He looked at the joint in my index finger and informed me the deformity that is there is more than likely from not getting the medication on time and will "hopefully" reverse itself as the RA flare settles down. He decided instead of doing the medication q 10 days, we would do it q 7 days and even that particular week (last week), I would take TWO doses.

I have since seen my Hand Surgeon as well (I have a history of RSD), and he has fitted me with a custom made splint for my finger in the hopes it will keep the joint from further deformity. He also hopes the medication will do its job and this will reverse, but he isn't hopeful.

One of my biggest fears in this disease is getting the "old lady fingers" as I call them. I am now getting them, and on admission from the MD, is more than likely due to the negligence of the nurse! Further, as I stated before, I was NOT the first patient the nurse has failed to call in medication or has made other mistakes, yet the MD kept him on as an employee!

Might there be a cause of action? If not against the MD, the nurse?? I am now limited at work with what I am allowed to do with my left hand. I use my hands at work all the time(work for a bank). I need my hands. I have had more copays, more Dr. visits, etc. due to this.

Thank you for your time. Any information you may be able to provide is greatly appreciated.
 


moburkes

Senior Member
I doubt it. your original Rx was for every 14 days, and you were approved for every 10 days. I can't imagine that waiting a few days caused this problem.
 

abaga

Member
I doubt it. your original Rx was for every 14 days, and you were approved for every 10 days. I can't imagine that waiting a few days caused this problem.
According to both the Rheumatologist and the Hand Surgeon, there may be a link.

The nurse knew from what I told him, I was having incredible pain. Pain to the point I could not use my hand. He also lied and said the Dr. denied the Rx, when in fact, he signed off on the NEW Rx when it was received. He lied about that to me. I even have the emails from the website where we were communicating that shows he said the Dr. approved the change and that he would call in the new Rx. He then said the MD would not approve the change. Further, he never sent in the new Rx. I am not the only one he did this to, according to my MD himself.

If not malpractice, would this be considered a valid reason to notify the Board of Nursing?
 

lealea1005

Senior Member
According to both the Rheumatologist and the Hand Surgeon, there may be a link.

The nurse knew from what I told him, I was having incredible pain. Pain to the point I could not use my hand. He also lied and said the Dr. denied the Rx, when in fact, he signed off on the NEW Rx when it was received. He lied about that to me. I even have the emails from the website where we were communicating that shows he said the Dr. approved the change and that he would call in the new Rx. He then said the MD would not approve the change. Further, he never sent in the new Rx. I am not the only one he did this to, according to my MD himself.

If not malpractice, would this be considered a valid reason to notify the Board of Nursing?

Save your documentation. You will need it when you communicate with the Board of Nursing. Good luck.
 

barry1817

Senior Member
problem with a nurse

What is the name of your state? Georgia

I apologize for the length..just don't want to leave anything out.

I was dx'ed with Rheumatoid Arthritis last year. I have been on several medications. My Rheumatologist and I finally found a medication that works and works well...for a short period of time. The normal dosing is one injection q 2 weeks. At or about 10 days, the pain of the RA returns. I sent a message to the Drs. office via an online website the Drs. office uses for communication. The nurse sent back a message stating I could increase the medication to q 10 days as per the MD. I wrote back stating I would need a new Rx with the change in frequency. He told me he would do this. Due to the cost of this medication, it has to be handled through a mail order pharmacy. When I called the mail order pharmacy to check on the medication, they told me they did not have a new Rx! This all occured a week before my next dose was due (the mail order pharmacy I have to use can overnight the Rx to you, so no need to order anything weeks in advance...in fact, they prefer you not do that).


I called the Drs. office to find out what was going on. The nurse then informs me the Dr. would not refill the medication or change the frequency since I was a no show 7 times! This is NOT true. After arguing with the nurse (he would not, rather could not provide the dates of these supposed no shows), I was able to speak with the office manager who stated I did NOT have a single no show. In fact, I was able to account for each appointment, even including the dates and times I went in for bloodwork. I was then told the medication would be called in.

Well, I call the pharmacy again only to find nothing had been called or faxed over to them. I was in excrutiating pain, but could do nothing at all as this was Friday evening at this point. I was not even able to use my hand. The pharmacy did send me one dose to at least get me started again, but informed me, this was not going to work immediately, which I was aware of already.

I went to the MD the next week for my appointment. I told them what had transpired and wondered why the MD refused my medication. This is where the fun begins. He NEVER refused the medication..in fact, he signed off on it the same day the pharmacy faxed over the orders!!!!! The orders even showed the updated Rx!! When the office manager asked the nurse why he didn't fax over the order with the MDs signature, he said, "I didn't know if she used the Pen or the Syringe!" Well, if you check the chart, or better yet, call the pharmacy, you will find the answer, and quickly!!!!!

The PA came in to see me first (The Dr. was in the hospital with an emergency). I explained to her all that was happening and the sharp increase in my pain. She then informed me they have been having problems with this nurse and she couldn't apologize enough for what occured. She noted the swelling in my index finger and the immobility. She knew just from looking at me the pain I was in.

The Dr. then comes in and starts apologizing to me. He told me this is NOT the first time this nurse has done this to a patient but it will be the last!! He looked at the joint in my index finger and informed me the deformity that is there is more than likely from not getting the medication on time and will "hopefully" reverse itself as the RA flare settles down. He decided instead of doing the medication q 10 days, we would do it q 7 days and even that particular week (last week), I would take TWO doses.

I have since seen my Hand Surgeon as well (I have a history of RSD), and he has fitted me with a custom made splint for my finger in the hopes it will keep the joint from further deformity. He also hopes the medication will do its job and this will reverse, but he isn't hopeful.

One of my biggest fears in this disease is getting the "old lady fingers" as I call them. I am now getting them, and on admission from the MD, is more than likely due to the negligence of the nurse! Further, as I stated before, I was NOT the first patient the nurse has failed to call in medication or has made other mistakes, yet the MD kept him on as an employee!

Might there be a cause of action? If not against the MD, the nurse?? I am now limited at work with what I am allowed to do with my left hand. I use my hands at work all the time(work for a bank). I need my hands. I have had more copays, more Dr. visits, etc. due to this.

Thank you for your time. Any information you may be able to provide is greatly appreciated.



The nurse works for the doctor and the doctor is aware that this has happened in the past. It becomes very important that he takes action to correct this problem.

If this was brought to my attention the nurse would be out the door immediately, if nothing else than to protect my practice.

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abaga

Member
The nurse works for the doctor and the doctor is aware that this has happened in the past. It becomes very important that he takes action to correct this problem.

If this was brought to my attention the nurse would be out the door immediately, if nothing else than to protect my practice.

[email protected]

Barry,

Thank you for your post. I am now finding, this "nurse," is not really a nurse. I guess he was more of an assistant. So, there really is no recourse at this stage of the game...or is there???

I don't want to do anything with the MD, but I do want the nurse (or whatever he is/was) to pay for this. It is costing me more money (extra copays for meds, additional MD appts with other specialists, custom made splints, etc)..but more importantly, it is costing me more pain! As it is, I am on pain medications for other problems, and these meds are not even helping.

What can I do...anything??

Thank you again!
 

lealea1005

Senior Member
Barry,

Thank you for your post. I am now finding, this "nurse," is not really a nurse. I guess he was more of an assistant. So, there really is no recourse at this stage of the game...or is there???

I don't want to do anything with the MD, but I do want the nurse (or whatever he is/was) to pay for this. It is costing me more money (extra copays for meds, additional MD appts with other specialists, custom made splints, etc)..but more importantly, it is costing me more pain! As it is, I am on pain medications for other problems, and these meds are not even helping.

What can I do...anything??

Thank you again!

Speak with the Physician or the office manager and find out whether this person is licensed in any capacity (certified nursing asst., med.tech, etc) then make a complaint to the licensing agency of their state. If he is not licensed, I would write a letter to your Physician detailing your experience and concerns. I would hope he already remedied the situation by firing the assistant. I agree with Barry, this person needs to be g-o-n-e to protect the Physician's practice.

IMO, the assistant needs treatment for his personality disorder.
 
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abaga

Member
HI Lea,

I have left a message for the office manager. I have not heard back yet. I will call again Monday.

Funny you say that about the personality disorder. The Dr. was even commenting how HE does not understand why some people have such control issues!

The Dr. actually fired the "nurse" as I was checking out. He walked me up front, then went in to the office with the office manager and the nurse. I only wish they had fired the nurse after the first incident!!! Why it took my issue to bring it to a head is beyond me....but it was done...

Thank you again, Lea!!


Speak with the Physician or the office manager and find out whether this person is licensed in any capacity (certified nursing asst., med.tech, etc) then make a complaint to the licensing agency of their state. If he is not licensed, I would write a letter to your Physician detailing your experience and concerns. I would hope he already remedied the situation by firing the assistant. I agree with Barry, this person needs to be g-o-n-e to protect the Physician's practice.

IMO, the assistant needs treatment for his personality disorder.
 

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