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go22

Member
What is the name of your state? new york

hi home guru. you have always been helpful in the past and i hope you can also answer this entailed post, and i am giving you plenty background so the picture is clear for you and apologize in advance for the length of the post.if you feel its too entailed please advise and i will try and re-type, but it involves various problems which also include rent stab tenant rights violations, dhcr determination letter, rent stab tenants legal rights, and a host of other issues:).

i recently went thru a very similar situation and i have a lovely elderly neighbor on my floor. she does not have the funds to hire an attorney to sue the board and the landlord since she is rent stabilized and also under scrie privileges, but what she is enduring should not be allowed to continue since it is inhumane. she is in her rent stabilized apartment for over 20 years is basically very cordial and quiet. last year a new co-op owner moved in above her and my friend is being kept awake all night long. during the day this upstairs co-op owner is in and out of the apartment, but usually she comes in to stay after 11:00 pm and begins doing house work. she drops heavy items on the floor, slams closet doors, terrace and front doors, kitchen cabinets, and walks on bare wooden floors with some sort of very heavy high heeled slippers. both my wife & and other neighbors have visited since many know that routine all too well, since this co-op building seems not to enforce the cooperative bylaws for any rent stabilized tenants. when offending upstairs lady is active in the apartment both during the daytime hours, at night and in the early morning hours it sounds like a war zone. it is terrible and my elderly rent stab neighbor cannot get any peace or rest , and as a result her health is failing.

she also sent medical concern letters from her various physicians to the sponsor's attorney via registered mail sometime last year. to-date she is addressing this with the co-op bldg., mgr, over the phone. ever since this horrific situation began all the manager states is "it's in the hands of the board". one other co-op owner neighbor who is also elderly also complained to the sponsors attorney in 3 separate letters also mailed registered mail since he hears it too, and he too is also suffering sleep deprivation and is told the same by building co-op manager "that it is in the hands of the board". so for over a year its in the hands of the board lying in suspended animation completely unaddressed and unresolved. btw the board president is also a realtor and handled the co-operative apartment transaction regarding the offending noisemaker's upstairs co-op apt, (we all wonder isn't this conflict of interest, since this offending upstairs co-op owner paid the board president his real estate commission, and now he refuses to take action against her?
we all thought a board president's job is only to ensure that everyone is treated fairly and no one is discriminated against.. (would appreciate your reply regarding this).

quite a few people also went upstairs to that co-op owner and she says she does not make any noise. the police were called on a few ocassions and heard her. one officer remained in my lady friend's rent. stab., apt., while the other one went upstairs and thru the door could clearly hear that upstairs co-op owner walking on bare floors with the heavy high heeled slippers and she was slamming heavy objects on to the bare floors which caused the surroundings to vibrate. when the policeman knocked on her door she remained silent and woulkd not open the door at all. another time the same thing happened but that time she must of had her television on because the moment the police arrived and she could see them enter the lobby she became silent and remained that way even when they knocked on her door. she never acknowledged them. now the police state she must file against the board of driectors and the landlord for not enforcing the co-op by laws and breach of warranty of habitability & quiet enjoyment, and medical health endangerment issue due to non enforcement of all co-op bylaws..

she did file a harassment complaint with dhcr, and included all of her medical and other documentation and the next door c-op owner also signed the letter and included his documentation as well. the determination stated notice of rejection of complaint of harassment under the grounds labeled 2. "The acts which you allege do not consittute harassment within the meaning of the rent laws, or do not warrant the commencement of an enforcement proceeding by this agency. however, those acts may be basis for another kind of complaint, if indicated in a,b,c,d,or e below. (the owner by the way also failed to furnish our elderly rent stab lady friend with her renewal lease for 2006 even though she called and spoke to the leasing agent 4 times and was told the lease would be immediately sent out to her attention via certified mail,) so she had already filed the complaint that she never received her lease with dhcr before receiving this final harrssement denial determination letter in the mail.

one rent stab neighbor told our lady friend to contact her congressman's office as they do help in these type of situations...another one suggested she sent the notice of rejection by dhcr along with all of her and the next door neighbor's documentation to the attention of the new yors state attorney general's office and also file a co-op complaint against the board of directors and the landlord for non enforcement of co-op bylaws, disregard for life endangerment medical condition due to not enforcing the carpeting and noise by law violations and complications arising form the 24/7 noise violations situation and for negligence upon the part of the landlord for not addressing and resolving the breach of warranty of habitability & quiet enjoyment when she received notification from her attorney over a year ago. (bte the landlord also sits on the board of directors so she was apprised by her attorney as to this entire situation over one year ago but still remains mute). can you please advise what she should do and what steps to take. speak to congressman first and wait to see if he can force the co-op to address and resolve these issues or enclose dhcr rejection letter and all pertaining information and file co-op complaint with state attorney general for new york?

Question home guru: since i am not an expert i may be wrong but i thought that regardless if the building is a co-op or not all landlords were required by law to ensure if complaints are received regarding excessive noise to imemdicately address it and resolve it so not to breach the warranty of habitability and quiet enjoyment which all their tenants are legally entitled to regardless if co-op owner or rent stab. tennants. please advise if this is true.....and if it is true under rent stabalization law isn't the rent stab tenants also entitled to the same protection of warranty of habitability by the landlord and shouldn't dhcr gone after the landlord for breach of warranty of habitability and quiet enjoyment under these circumstances? please advise home guru************** also dhcr marked an X in the other box which says "this office does not address tenant vs. tenant noise complaints unless collusion with the owner can be demonstrated. this agency would not have juristiction to enforce co-op bylaws. you may contact quality of life hotline at 888-677-5433 about this problem....home guru since the landlord is aware the president of the board sells cooperative apartments and reeives realty commission in the same cooperative where he serves as board president and lives (and we believe there is a conflict of interest there, although we may be wrong), doesn't this demonstrate collusion since the board refuses to address and resolve this for over one year but resolves many other complaints with only one phonecall from other residents of the cooperative building? kindly please advise regarding this too....

no one deserves to live like this and pay their rent for over one year and continually suffer emotionally, mentally, and physicially especially to the point where their health and life are at risk**************..also wondering when she does finally receive the lease since she filed with dhcr that it never arrived even though the leasing agent was notified by phone 4 times how long a period of time does she have since eveidently her new lease expires in about 1 1/2 weeks,,,,she was told by another neighbor to keep paying the old rent and just wait for dhcr to contact her and hold the lease and do not sign it until dhcr makes contact with her, and to have the lease checked out against the current lease which is now expiring to ensure nothing new was changed or added****************************please advise about this as well.

again i am so sorry as this i know is quite entailed and i just wanted to be sure to address all important points. please advise if you wish i re-type it (but i think all info. listed is of the utmost importance to paint a clear precise picture of exactly what is going on in this horiffic situation)...but will re-type it again if you so instruct.... and we all thank you home guru**************.for this reply and everything you and everyone has so kindly helped us with in the past. you all rock, and again many thanks:).
 


ENASNI

Senior Member
Yo Go22 You absolutely have to cut that post in half, (Did I say in half) you need to cut down more than that. Just put in the most pertinent facts and ask your question. You will get help that way.

Thank you. ( Best bet, delete this one and start all over)
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
Here are some pertinent facts that I gleaned from reading/skimming it:
Rent stabilized apartment.
resident been there 20 years.
Upstairs neighbor makes noise all day and all night.
Resident has various medical problems that the noise is exacerbating.
Landlord not enforcing the quietness for those rent stabilized.
The OP is the resident's neighbor.
Is there something that can be done for resident?

edited for grammar: I hate the flu.
 

go22

Member
re-posting, do not have edit button to delete.....sorry

sorry enasni and ohiogal....condensed version. hope u get the complete picture:). last portion i have summarized the questions to make it easier for your replies and again thanks!

rent stab elderly neighbor 24/7 horrific noise upstairs co-op pwner. health is failing. police respond many times, hear noise after 12:00 am and up to 5:00 am. walking with high heeled slippers on bare floors is the worse, as is the intentional dropping of heavy objects. neighbor's health failing fast. sent all medical and cover letters as well as next door co-op neigbors letters over to sponsor's attorney over 1 year ago. to date no written reply."its in the hands of the board" all that is said verbally. police said can't come again and again, & can't do anything but suggested neighbor file harassment complaint with dhcr citing LL and board for harassment, negligence, non enforcement of bylaws & breach of warranty & quiet enjoyment. neighbor already did this and dhcr denied complaint stating do not handle co-op LL/tenant bylaw noise violations. Suggested quality of life hotline (neighbor has for over 1 year and still no reply). suggested unless collusion can be cited they can do nothing. neighbor already sent in dhcr complaint for no renewal lease and is waiting to hear, menawhile how long does she have to check her lease before she must return it since she already lost her 150/90 days legal rights? police suggested she contact her congressman or file complaint with co-op neighbor against LL and board for breach of warranty, negligence, & harassment since she is rent stab, elderly and on scrie and can't afford attorney fees.
Question1).how long it will take dhcr to respond to her complaint of no lease renewal received, and how long does she get to peruse it since she lost previous priveledge of 150/90 days, and should she keep paying her current rent and then stop paying until the new lease arrives and she hears from DHCR?
Question 2). did not put this in her original dhcr complaint fearing retaliation but isn't it collusion if the LL allows the Board Pres (licensed realtor) to sell co-op apts and receive commissions and then refuse to address these horrific bylaw violations noise and allow it to remain in the hands of the board for over 1 year? please kindly advise & thanks.
Question 3). isn't it also a conflict of interest for any co-op board pres., to receive $ derivitative and pertaining to his daily occupation while seated on the board, does this not demonstrate conflict of interest to everyone in the bldg? he should not be benefiting monetarilly from selling co-op apartments in the same complex where he lives & serves as board president even though he is a licensed realtor should he? please kindly advise & thanks.
Question 4). Police advised neighbor call her congressman for help and also file a co-op complaint with her state attorney general's office and include co-op neighbors complaint too, all of the correspondence letters as well as all medical documentation stating if bylaws are not enflorced she may suffer a stroke or heart attack. it breaks our hearts to see and hear her cry. we all fear all of this over 1 year stress has stressed her heart out to the max**************....please any and all legal advisements greatly appreciated....and thank you eunasi, ohiogal and everyone:).
 

go22

Member
please advise where is the edit button to delete a post already posted?

sorry enasni and ohiogal,
i wanted to delete the original post per enasni's request but did not see a delete button to delete it. can only edit the post which i am typing at the time i am typing it and if i chose to
delete portions of that i can, but if anyone can advise how i can delete a post which has already been posted i would greatly appreciate that lesson:) you're never too old to learn new tricks**************...or at least that is what i have heard:).
 

ENASNI

Senior Member
Look Go22, your post is breaking my heart but I am not savvy in New York landlord Tenant law. It is a whole new animal out there. ( I am in California)

I do know that there are numerous resources out there whether you are in the city (yes?) or not.

http://www.megalaw.com/ny/top/nylandlord.php

http://www.oag.state.ny.us/realestate/tenants_rights_guide.html
http://www.tenant.net/

You seem like a very nice person, thank you for caring so much about your friend. Maybe someone more familiar (and a lawyer) will pop in on this thread.

Ohiogal is a lawyer, but alas... in Ohio. Again NY is a strange area when it comes to tenant law.

Good luck, at least I bumped this thread up for attention.
 

go22

Member
thanks so much enasni:):):).

you are so kind and compassionate enasni and for that we all thank you.

i will read the links you so kindly provided....but you know we all believe the current board co-op pres since he sold that upstairs co-op owner her apartment and made his commission is retaliating against this elderly rent stabilized tenant to try and either have her drop dead or force her out completely of her rent stab scrie apt since he continues to allow this to remain in the hands of the board unaddressed, and unresolved for over one year. many cannot fathom how our friend has not already expired. she has dropped so much weight, is not sleeping and has black bags under her eyes. she shakes uncontrollably and cries and after hearing what sounds like an active war zone above her head whenever that co-op owner is active in her apt it is no wonder why. our friend was tortured and miraculously survived the holocaust only to be terrorized 24/7 by that upstairs witch, and the cold callous silence of the LL, building mgr, sponsor's attorney, board members and board president only confirm our suspisions because how long can this type of life threatening bylaw noise vilation complaint remain in the hands of the board in suspended animation?. yes i know we cannot prove it but what is that saying "actions speak louder than words".....so these combined inactions and continued deafening silence roar quite loudly.....

anyway thanks again for being such a kind humane person enasni and posting such a nice reply. thanks for also bumping up the thread and perhaps ohio gal who is an attorney may know new york rent stab and co-op laws and reply to answer our listed questions, or perhaps someone else will. thanks again for everything and i must again say that all of you, and your website are the best on the net and for that we wholheartedly bless and thank you, and wish you continued success and prosperity:):):).
 

go22

Member
paging ohiogal....could you please reply and thanks:).

hi ohiogal,
i know you kindly replied to my thread and i was hoping if it is not an imposition if you could please read the second post i did which is the shorter version. both enasni and i are hoping you can offer your legal advisements.

i read your reply and yes what you said is correct with the exception that my elderly friend did not have major health endangerment medical problems before.....she aquired them as a direct result of the 24/7 insufferable noise the upstairs co-op owner makes whenever she is active in her apartment, and her cardiologist and 2 physicians have verified that in writing.. example**************.late night into early morning ludicrious housecleaning and banging dropping heavy items on the bare floors. she slams shut cabinets, drawers, doors etc and makes the whole apartment underneath her vibrate and the noise is really extremely deafening. she walks spitefully on bare wooden floors with high heeled slippers and each footstep she takes slams down on the bare floors quite hard and causes loud noises and vibrations violations with every foot step she takes. whenever the co-op owner is active at home its like a war zone is going on. truly the worse is the high heeled slippers on bare floors, and the loud noise and vibrations when she walks, slams, bangs, and throws heavy objects on the bare floors.

everyone has tried to reason with her but her friend is the co-op board president who sold her the co-op apartment since he is also a realtor. we believe since she paid his commission he refuses to address these health and life endangerment multi co-op by law violations relative to excessive unreasonable noise and no carpeting installed. we also wonder isn't this a conflict of interest and violation since he should not sell ant co-op apts where he lives and serves on the board and benefit monetarily relative to his real estate employment position?.

the upstairs co-op owner refuses to stop and has been on a mission to cause my friend to either lose her mind completely due to sleep deprivation issues, hypertension, anxiety, depression, angina, and mental, emotional and physical exhaustion from not getting any rest unless the witch is out. the board members, landlord who sits on the board, her attorney, and management remain mute. they never replied in writing to any letters they received other than manager verbally saying for over one year "it's in the hands of the board".

ohiogal could you kindly read my second post and please if you can address my few questions i would greatly appreciate it. i was hoping you are somewhat familiar with new york rent stabalization tenant and co-op laws. no bylaws are being enforced and a breach of warranty of habitability and quiet enjoyment has occurred. still wating to hear from dhcr about the fact that the LL has not sent her the 2006 renewal lease and her current lease expires shortly.

many thanks in advance ohiogal, and i hope you will reply as i told my elderly friend that i would hopefully get an answer to those questions i posted any day now, God willing, so we know which way to pursue this since my friend is rent stab and receiving scrie, and cannot afford an attorney, and at this point is so frail and suffering such torment.
 

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