paroled dad not paying support

[Aimhi]

My daughter's father was in arrears when he went to prison for burglery in Montana. He is out now and on parole and still not paying support. There is a lot more to this story but my first question is: isnt nonpayment of child support a parole violation? What is the name of your state? California.

 

[GrowUp!]

My daughter's father was in arrears when he went to prison for burglery in Montana. He is out now and on parole and still not paying support. There is a lot more to this story but my first question is: isnt nonpayment of child support a parole violation? What is the name of your state? California.

And I would bet the "more to this story" is irrelevant.

In regards to your question...it would depend on the provisions of his violation, but I would guess it's NOT a violation of his parole. Is he even working?

 

[Aimhi]

HE is working. Its part of his prelease program. Its wonderful how I spend 11 years raising our daughter with very minimal help from him financially, then he robs a bunch of places goes to prison, gets out of paying support there too of course.. the he gets out early, they give him a place to live, furnish it, etc. Thats fairness. Especially for my daughter. His mother was very wealthy and passed away a few years ago. I know she left something for ny daugher, her only grandchild. But I think the husband is hiding the money. He just bought a house for the deadbeat dad in Montana.

 

[Aimhi]

sorry not sure how to use this site

 

[Aimhi]

And I would bet the "more to this story" is irrelevant.

In regards to your question...it would depend on the provisions of his violation, but I would guess it's NOT a violation of his parole. Is he even working?

HE is working. Its part of his prelease program. Its wonderful how I spend 11 years raising our daughter with very minimal help from him financially, then he robs a bunch of places goes to prison, gets out of paying support there too of course.. the he gets out early, they give him a place to live, furnish it, etc. Thats fairness. Especially for my daughter. His mother was very wealthy and passed away a few years ago. I know she left something for ny daugher, her only grandchild. But I think the husband is hiding the money. He just bought a house for the deadbeat dad in Montana.

 

[Ohiogal]

If grandma left something it would be in her will which was to be probated in the county in which she lived/died. So go to that probate court and request to see the will for your daughter.

 

[GrowUp!]

HE is working. Its part of his prelease program. Its wonderful how I spend 11 years raising our daughter with very minimal help from him financially, then he robs a bunch of places goes to prison, gets out of paying support there too of course.. the he gets out early, they give him a place to live, furnish it, etc. Thats fairness. Especially for my daughter. His mother was very wealthy and passed away a few years ago. I know she left something for ny daugher, her only grandchild. But I think the husband is hiding the money. He just bought a house for the deadbeat dad in Montana.

Before he decided to change careers to '5-Finger Discounter', what did you do to enforce a child support order? Just because he went to prison does NOT mean he "gets off" (ok..well that opened up the door for a graphic joke...but anyways LOL). The amount he owes continues to accrue. Is your CS order through a CSEA? If he is working, ask them to look into it.

 

[Aimhi]

Before he decided to change careers to '5-Finger Discounter', what did you do to enforce a child support order? Just because he went to prison does NOT mean he "gets off" (ok..well that opened up the door for a graphic joke...but anyways LOL). The amount he owes continues to accrue. Is your CS order through a CSEA? If he is working, ask them to look into it.

Before he went to prison CSED in Montana had the case, of course he was avoiding paying, so they took his license after much "encouragement" on my part, he got it back after a promise to pay plus 25.00 more per month to make up arrears, ha! didnt do that, they took his license again right before he went to jail....while he was in prison I recieved a letter from CSED in response to my enquiry to the Federal Administration of Children and Families, stating that they did takes steps to discontinue their administrative enforcement and had terminated my case with them as the father would not be out of priosn untill she was 18, but she is 14 and he's been out for over a year. Just because they dropped my case doesnt mean I dont have a court oder still, does it?

 

[Aimhi]

If grandma left something it would be in her will which was to be probated in the county in which she lived/died. So go to that probate court and request to see the will for your daughter.

Tried that, I cant find anything anywhere regarding her death. Its like she never existed.

 

[Aimhi]

Tried that, I cant find anything anywhere regarding her death. Its like she never existed.

Anyway, I have sent for copies of my support order. I am calling his parole officer today. Grampa recently took my daughter to see daddy while he bought the house and supposedly put about 10,000.00 in the bank for house stuff withdrawels to be approved by parole officer first. whatever.

 

[GrowUp!]

Before he went to prison CSED in Montana had the case, of course he was avoiding paying, so they took his license after much "encouragement" on my part, he got it back after a promise to pay plus 25.00 more per month to make up arrears, ha! didnt do that, they took his license again right before he went to jail....while he was in prison I recieved a letter from CSED in response to my enquiry to the Federal Administration of Children and Families, stating that they did takes steps to discontinue their administrative enforcement and had terminated my case with them as the father would not be out of priosn untill she was 18, but she is 14 and he's been out for over a year. Just because they dropped my case doesnt mean I dont have a court oder still, does it?

Just to clarify...do you have an administrative order from them stating that the case, in fact, has been terminated or closed? If so, you should inquire with the CSEA if it can be re-opened since he is out early.

You probably don't have anything against his parole, quite honestly. And if the order for support was closed/terminated, you definitely don't. You really should see if it can be reopened by CSEA. That's the first call you should be making.

 

[Aimhi]

Just to clarify...do you have an administrative order from them stating that the case, in fact, has been terminated or closed? If so, you should inquire with the CSEA if it can be re-opened since he is out early.

You probably don't have anything against his parole, quite honestly. And if the order for support was closed/terminated, you definitely don't. You really should see if it can be reopened by CSEA. That's the first call you should be making.

Does the CSED termination override the court order???I do have calls into them. Waiting on returns. This CSED had a class action lawsiut against them for withholding child support tax intercepts, mine being one of them. (Holden et al v State of Montana et al) They already dont like me too much, as I have made alot of noise over the years. They lied to me about the intercept at the time...They havent been the most cooperative of agencies, and Im sure they were happy for any excuse to terminate my case. But hey, thanks for your advise, although I havent learned anything new here. Just thought I would give it a try.

 

[LdiJ]

Does the CSED termination override the court order???I do have calls into them. Waiting on returns. This CSED had a class action lawsiut against them for withholding child support tax intercepts, mine being one of them. (Holden et al v State of Montana et al) They already dont like me too much, as I have made alot of noise over the years. They lied to me about the intercept at the time...They havent been the most cooperative of agencies, and Im sure they were happy for any excuse to terminate my case. But hey, thanks for your advise, although I havent learned anything new here. Just thought I would give it a try.

I know that non-payment of CS is considered to be a parole violation in some states. I have no idea if that is true for yours or not. However, it probably wouldn't hurt anything to at least give his parole officer a call. If nothing else perhaps his parole officer might at least be willing to give him a "nudge".

 

[GrowUp!]

Does the CSED termination override the court order???I do have calls into them. Waiting on returns. This CSED had a class action lawsiut against them for withholding child support tax intercepts, mine being one of them. (Holden et al v State of Montana et al) They already dont like me too much, as I have made alot of noise over the years. They lied to me about the intercept at the time...They havent been the most cooperative of agencies, and Im sure they were happy for any excuse to terminate my case. But hey, thanks for your advise, although I havent learned anything new here. Just thought I would give it a try.

Well you're not "learning" anything new because you keep on throwing new facts into play.

SO now there's a court order...for what?!! Why don't you tell us what IS going on...what orders are in place/what aren't in place, what were in place, etc. Everytime you get a response, you have something new to add.

 

[GrowUp!]

I know that non-payment of CS is considered to be a parole violation in some states. I have no idea if that is true for yours or not. However, it probably wouldn't hurt anything to at least give his parole officer a call. If nothing else perhaps his parole officer might at least be willing to give him a "nudge".

And that nudge would be useless if there is no support order in place.