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Possible Defamation of Character after being Terminated?

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chico28

Junior Member
What is the name of your state? IN

I was terminated without warning or any means to resolve the issue of why I was fired. On the same day I was terminated a e-mail was posted by superior that went out to all of my co-workers and managers. It read that someone had been terminated today and It went on to list the reasons why. It was fowarded to me by a co-worker the next day that was upset by it. What are your thoughts?
 


BelizeBreeze

Senior Member
chico28 said:
What is the name of your state? IN

I was terminated without warning or any means to resolve the issue of why I was fired.
Not Illegal
On the same day I was terminated a e-mail was posted by superior that went out to all of my co-workers and managers.
Also Not illegal
It read that someone had been terminated today and It went on to list the reasons why.
NOT illegal
It was fowarded to me by a co-worker the next day that was upset by it. What are your thoughts?
My thoughts are that you have no case except to get a new job.
 

saw192837

Junior Member
chico28 said:
What is the name of your state? IN

It read that someone had been terminated today and It went on to list the reasons why. I

Weird and highly suspicious. Almost always a company will not state why since it opens them up to lawsuits, and is unprofessional and rather stupid. Not naming doesn't matter much because people can easily deduce who got fired that day.

You didn't say how big your company is, what field you are in, and what the reasons were on the email. It depends what it says, and whether it is true.
 

cbg

I'm a Northern Girl
Actually, it's a myth that a company can be sued for disclosing the reason for a termination. A widely held myth that is in many cases perpetrated by over-cautious attornies, but a myth nonetheless.
 

saw192837

Junior Member
cbg said:
Actually, it's a myth that a company can be sued for disclosing the reason for a termination. A widely held myth that is in many cases perpetrated by over-cautious attornies, but a myth nonetheless.
Actually, it's not.

It's not that you WILL be sued for giving out bad references, its that it INCREASES the risk of it.

Increased risk of being sued = Bad.

Bad = Attorney says dont do it. Wastes money and time even if you are mostly in the clear.

Your response may confuse others into thinking its ok to list every thing wrong with an employee upon termination. Yes, technically, if an employee is late all the time, then fired, and the employer says "It's because he was late so much, look at his time cards" that is not likely to be actionable. But anything else more subjective is likely to cause trouble and create a major litigation risk. "He was fired because he

So there is a reason employers dont disclose reasons for termination, because you are more likley to get SUED. When people are fired, they are usually very angry and disclosing reasons is not only unprofessional but just adding fuel to the fire; they want to sue you anyway, now you are giving them ammunition. Not only that, but other employees will know the reasons and possibly have cause to sue as well (Saying someone was harrassing co-workers, could trigger those co-workers to sue to company, because now they admitted to have a workplace with harassment!)

Bad references can prevent the fired employee from finding another job and then he goes to a lawyer, and sues.

In any case, there is a 5 part test (differs by state):

Employer can be held liable for the negligent misrepresentation of a former employee's work history if: (1) the inquiring party clearly identifies nature of inquiry; (2) employer voluntarily decides to respond to the inquiry, and thereafter unreasonably provides false or inaccurate information; (3) the person providing the inaccurate information is acting within scope of his/her employment; (4) the recipient of the incorrect information relies on its accuracy to support an adverse employment action against the plaintiff; and (5) plaintiff suffers quantifiable damages proximately caused by the negligent misrepresentation. (Singer v. Beach Trading Co., Inc. 876 A.2d 885 (NJ 2005)).

Note that it must be false; however as a general rule, companies wont give anything bad out because it isn't worth the time to defend. Ignore that advice at your peril.
 
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Quaere

Member
There are several defense options against a defamation claim. The, "But I really believed what I said was true" defense, is not among them.
 

Quaere

Member
Can you please cite a case where the original publisher of a false statement about another successfully used such a defense?
 

BelizeBreeze

Senior Member
Quaere said:
Can you please cite a case where the original publisher of a false statement about another successfully used such a defense?
Do a search on this website. I don't waste time teaching neophytes about the law.
 

cbg

I'm a Northern Girl
Saw, I hate to be the one to tell you this, but bad references are not illegal. As long as the information is true or the employer's honestly held opinion, they may provide it.

If you disagree, than suppose you provide us a link to any case in which an employer provided a truthful and supportable negative reference and was successfully sued for it.
 

saw192837

Junior Member
It's not that you can be successfully sued, its that you can be sued at all. It isn't worth the time and expense to defend yourself.
 

cbg

I'm a Northern Girl
You can be sued for NOT providing references, too. If you're looking to protect yourself from any possible chance of litigation, I recommend a desert island with no human contact.
 

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