Possible To Be Sued?

[trufrenz4lyfe]

What is the name of your state? Hawaii

I have a friend in a unique, but possible case. Nothing is known at the moment, only a rumor of what is supposedly happening.

Well, a woman just recently got fired because someone faxed to her boss a letter about sexual molestation with a minor at her place of employement. The letter was completely annonymous and only had information of supposedly what happened between her and the student. We're assuming that as precuationary mesures, her job let her go as it is something that is not to be tolerated. Someone related her contacted us and said that the attorney general is investigating the case and possible case of slandering. Obviously they didn't get the type of case correct, as slandering is oral and libel is written.

Well anyway, they can't prove who wrote the letter but they think that it might have been my friend as they have had problems in the past. Also the person who contacted us said that they have a number to where the fax came from.

As I mentioned above though, the fax was completely annonymous and didn't have any type of contact information. They don't have any physical evidence that it could have come from my friend. Only circumstantial, if even that. Only because they had problems in the past.

Would this be strong enough for a case against my friend and what type of sentance or penalty could my friend face if proven guilty?

Also, if the lady decided to sue her job, could she? Because of the position she was in, working with minors, and accused of sexual molestation, I'm not sure if she could. Even if the school could find out who sent the letter or prove whether it was true or not. If she did sue the school and happened somehow to win the case, would they come after the person who faxed the letter?

Hopefully this kinda makes sense.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

[BelizeBreeze]

IF and when you get some facts, post back.

 

[trufrenz4lyfe]

IF and when you get some facts, post back.

What do you mean get some facts? Like what. Actually this is what is happening, and has happened so far. The only thing is we're not sure if the Attorney General would investigate a case like this. It seems like they are making things up to try to scare my friend into turning himself in for something that they can't even prove where it came from.

 

[EvilWizard]

What number did the fax come from? Who owns that number?

Lack of effort on their part in researching origin does not equal anonymity.

 

[cbg]

She has no standing to sue her employer. Hawaii is an at-will state; she can be fired at any time and for any reason that does not violate the law, and this doesn't.

 

[trufrenz4lyfe]

OKay here is what has happened, and these are the facts. My friend faxed the letter to the DOE regarding the woman claiming she molested one of the students at her school. Threre turns out that there was an investegator for the public attorny's office went to the job where the letter was faxed from. The first fax, had the number on the bottom from the the fax came from. The second one didn't because my friend realized it afterwards and removed it from the fax machine. Well anyway, the investegator came to the job, and my friend realized that the evidence was just to strong to try and lie about it. So my friend made a written statement to the investegator saying that everything was made up and none of it was true. And that is all that has turned up so far. Unfortunately my friend was suspended from work for a week for using company time and property for personal use and will be under performance review after the suspension is over. To me that sounds like it's just a time for my friend to go in and probably get fired.

Now, if she presses charges against my friend, what exactly can happen? It's hard to find the libel/slandering laws in Hawaii.

 

[stephenk]

this person is your friend? i would be careful about getting on her bad side.

 

[trufrenz4lyfe]

Yes, actually my friend truly is a good friend, the type you'd give your life for. But don't mistake his friendliness for weakness. If someone should mess with him, his family, or friends, he won't take it lightly or seriously. Through thick and thin, etc, etc, etc. You know what I mean.

 

[stephenk]

Yes, actually my friend truly is a good friend, the type you'd give your life for. But don't mistake his friendliness for weakness. If someone should mess with him, his family, or friends, he won't take it lightly or seriously. Through thick and thin, etc, etc, etc. You know what I mean.

Huh? Your friend sounds vindictive, mean and petty. He intentionally accuses someone of molesting a kid knowing the accusation is false. This is a good friend? If he had a problem with the woman he should have acted like a man and confronted it head on instead of anonymously making false accusations.

By the way, wait till your friend gets sued, then he will see what serious means. Hope he has money saved to pay for an attorney because he will definitely need one. But since you are such good friends with him I am sure you would loan him the $10,000 to defend himself on a loser of a case.

 

[trufrenz4lyfe]

Ya know, sorry that you don't fully know the whole story and just assume things about other people. Instead of assuming, why don't you ask why my friend did what he had to do. It wasn't just an out of air, I'm bored and I'm a big loser so I'll go out an ruin someone's life type of thing. He did it for a reason. Unfortunately this obviously wasn't the best way to go about it, but hey, when his family got screwed because of that woman, he could've have done much worse, as I'm pretty sure a lot of people would if they were in his shoes.

Let me ask you this.

If you have or when you have kids, and should something happen that severly affects your income to the point where your children cry in the morning because they're hungry, look at FOOD ads in the newspaper instead of toys like almost all children in this country do, all because of this woman's false accusation to cancel a government assistance program to help people of low income, tell me how would you feel and what would you do? See the thing is that unlike the court system where you're innocent until proven guilty, well with government assisted programs, you're guilty and there is no benefeit of the doubt. Your assistance gets cancelled IMMEDIATELY! See and the thing is that it was very hard for my friend to prove that they weren't guilty because of the situation their family was in.

HOW FAR WOULD YOU GO TO PROTECT YOUR CHILDREN? MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE OKAY AT ALL TIMES? WOULDN'T YOU PROMISE THAT YOU'D TAKE CARE OF THEM NO MATTER WHAT?

I feel for my friend, as all the people that I've told this too. Some of them would've have just lost it and gone over there and beat the living daylights of of that woman and then have to deal with it afterwards. So I'd say that this wasn't that bad.

And guess what? This woman was not justified in any way of making that false claim. Nothing was done to her in order to make her feel she had to do what she did.

You also say why doesn't he just be a man and confront her, well when you have a restraining order on people, you don't go over there and confront them. See her family members were harrassing my friend and his family for a different situation that's still related to this incident.

So there's some more of this incredibly long situation that is currently playing out. So once again, before you assume things about people, why don't you ask them first what happened. If my friend was a crazy b@st@rd doing things like this for absolutely no good reason, then trust me, they WOULDN'T be my friend.

 

[EvilWizard]

I knew her friend would get caught as soon as I saw "faxed anonymously"... What an idiot.

So your friend was pissed off at someone for doing something (probably because your friend screwed up) that negatively affected him and his kids (boohoo) so he is in the right to try and ruin the other person's life? I hope he enjoys the lawsuit and the loss of all that money it will cost him now (his kids should smack the crap out of him for being so dumb.)

Oh and I'm sure everyone agrees with your idiot friend's actions because they get his jaded side of the story only.

 

[Some Random Guy]

Regardless of your friend's motivation. He has admitted to making knowlingly false statements that causes another person significant damages. Expect him to be sued and lose.

 

[stephenk]

so your friend was a loser to begin with right? Low income job, too many kids to support, and depending on welfare. he loses his benefits for a valid reason (you never said the benefits were wrongly taken away) and instead of accepting responsibility for his own actions he continues with his loser mentality and gets himself into even more trouble.

You can help him explain to his kids why there is going to be even less money for food because of daddy's stupid decision making process.

Plus your "good friend" already has a restraining order issued against him by the woman he victimized? Guess what! That fax may be a violation of the restraining order. maybe he won't have to worry about eating for himself when he spends a few months in jail.