Professor Grade Issue

[amoneymitchell]

What is the name of your state (Michigan)?

I'm a resident of Michigan attending a public university. I have recently turned in an essay for which I recieved a 0. However, the grade I recieved was due to a faulty source. My professor sent me an email stating that the source actually was written for an italian online game and he insinuated that the only way he found out is because he is fluid in italian. The information I used from the source was in other credible websites such as bbc and I can't find any evidence that the source actually does refer to an online game.

Questions: 1) Can he fail me based on a source that has credible information on other sites. 2) Can he fail me because of the source's origin even though there is no substantial proof of its origin and the fact that I would have no way of finding the origin. 3) Is more information required on my part in order to make a decision?

 

[justalayman]

2) Can he fail me because of the source's origin even though there is no substantial proof of its origin and the fact that I would have no way of finding the origin.

So, you have some information claimed to be correct but there is no origin for that information. In other words, it is a rumor or fabrication with no provable factual basis? I think the point is to prove the veracity of your information. Without proof of the origin, how can you do that?

Apparently your professor has found the source of the information. If he can and you can't, how can you argue with his claim?

1) Can he fail me based on a source that has credible information on other sites.

as the old saying goes, even a broken clock is right twice a day. Just because they may have posted some credible information doesn't mean they are considered to be a credible source. Even the National Enquirer tells the actual facts, sometimes. I would not consider them to be a credible source.

 

[davew128]

Even the National Enquirer tells the actual facts, sometimes. I would not consider them to be a credible source.

I used to think that too. However John Edwards is on line 3, so I will have to get back to you this thread.

 

[ecmst12]

Was that the only source you used?

 

[Perky]

Fluid in italian? Is that like vinegar or oil?

 

[HomeGuru]

Fluid in italian? Is that like vinegar or oil?

**A: sounds like salad dressing to me.

 

[wrongsometimes]

What is the name of your state (Michigan)?

I'm a resident of Michigan attending a public university. I have recently turned in an essay for which I recieved a 0. However, the grade I recieved was due to a faulty source. My professor sent me an email stating that the source actually was written for an italian online game and he insinuated that the only way he found out is because he is fluid in italian. The information I used from the source was in other credible websites such as bbc and I can't find any evidence that the source actually does refer to an online game.

Questions: 1) Can he fail me based on a source that has credible information on other sites. 2) Can he fail me because of the source's origin even though there is no substantial proof of its origin and the fact that I would have no way of finding the origin. 3) Is more information required on my part in order to make a decision?

Does not sound like you cited your references so he hunted down one he could find & now you are SOL. If he is a full professor, you likely will fail the course.

Go and make your case to the department head...make you case better than what you posted here...he will not have to prove his source, you do. Now if the only way he could have found it was because he is fluid in Italian and you are not, then how could you have found it?

 

[Humusluvr]

Does not sound like you cited your references so he hunted down one he could find & now you are SOL. If he is a full professor, you likely will fail the course.

Go and make your case to the department head...make you case better than what you posted here...he will not have to prove his source, you do. Now if the only way he could have found it was because he is fluid in Italian and you are not, then how could you have found it?

The OP fails to reveal whether or not he cited, or cited correctly.

It wouldn't matter if it was a full professor, associate professor, assistant professor, senior professor, tenured, un-tenured, interim - if the student did not do their citing correctly, the student may absolutely receive a zero for the assignment, which may translate to a failing grade for the class. The professor has complete discretion over the grading for the course. If the professor feels it was blatant plagiarism, they may decide to give the student a zero for the whole class.

Your best bet here - OP - is to take the grade to your Student Judicial Affairs office (or whatever you call it on your campus). Here is Michigan State's Judicial Affairs, in case that is where you go - but it gives you an example of how to approach the student/faculty issue. Judicial Affairs

Likely you would have a hearing, where each of you presents your case to a third party who helps to resolve the conflict. It could come down to whether or not the professor had anything in the syllabus about plagiarism - so read his syllabus carefully.

Let us know more about what happens, and about how you cited.

 

[stealth2]

he is fluid in italian.

he is fluid in Italian

Since apparently *neither* of you know that "fluid" is not to proper word in this context, allow me to correct at least some small portion of your illiteracy. The word you are both looking for is FLUENT.

 

[Humusluvr]

Since apparently *neither* of you know that "fluid" is not to proper word in this context, allow me to correct at least some small portion of your illiteracy. The word you are both looking for is FLUENT.

Ha ha ha - you go on with the grammar police!!!

 

[HomeGuru]

Since apparently *neither* of you know that "fluid" is not to proper word in this context, allow me to correct at least some small portion of your illiteracy. The word you are both looking for is FLUENT.

**A hows this- my oil and vinegar salad dressing is so thick, it is not fluent, hahaha.

 

[wrongsometimes]

Ha ha ha - you go on with the grammar police!!!

Go ahead and write "I am fluid in Italian" in MS Word & do a grammar check .. nothing is shown as being unacceptable.

After this I checked online, Fluid - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
Looks like its OK.

"the more you know, the less you blow" ... some college professor


Definition of FLUID
1
a : having particles that easily move and change their relative position without a separation of the mass and that easily yield to pressure : capable of flowing b : subject to change or movement <boundaries became fluid>
2
: characterized by or employing a smooth easy style <the ballerina's fluid movements> <fluid recitation of his lines>
3
a : available for various uses <a fluid computer program> b : liquid 4 <fluid assets>
— flu·id·ly adverb
— flu·id·ness noun
See fluid defined for English-language learners »
Examples of FLUID

1. a substance in a fluid state
2. <warm the jam until it is fluid, then spread it over the cake>

Origin of FLUID
French or Latin; French fluide, from Latin fluidus, from fluere to flow; akin to Greek phlyzein to boil over
First Known Use: 1603
Related to FLUID
Synonyms: flowing, fluent, liquid
Antonyms: hard, nonliquid, solid

 

[cbg]

And by your definitions, you have proven the point; "fluid" is not the right word in this situation. "Fluent" is.

 

[Humusluvr]

Go ahead and write "I am fluid in Italian" in MS Word & do a grammar check .. nothing is shown as being unacceptable.

Go ahead and type "I am two big two fail. " Nothing is shown as unacceptable with that sentence either, but it is wrong. So is "I am fluid in Italian."

"the more you know, the less you blow" ... some college professor

Looks like you didn't listen to your crass and asinine professor.

Goes to show that, even when you cite something, it can still be wrong. As was the original question.